Fast early yellowing and leaves pointing up.Help please.

CookingBrownie · Sep 5, 2021

Hello one of my plants was good a week ago then started yellowing fast.It is around week 4 in flowering.Giving Plagron Terra Bloom and Green Sensation.Ph is normal every watering around 6.2 or 6.8i make it draft but never past the limit.
I have 3 other that are showing also signs like that but not as fast .

I had an aphid infection which i treated with an agro insecticide but i notice a few bugs in the roots i think they are Root Aphids can they make damages like this ? Any suggestions please what to do ? Maybe it is another problem nutrient deficiency maybe ?

The big problem is that one branch is all yellow to the top…..

Temperature air circulation is in normal conditions and i water every 3 4 days so no overwatering making sure a few cm is dry.

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

Please someone

GNick55 · Sep 6, 2021

CookingBrownie said:
Please someone

looks hungry
give me a min, rolling a doobie

GNick55 · Sep 6, 2021

outdoors or indoors?
are these in the ground or in pots?

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

GNick55 said:
outdoors or indoors?
are these in the ground or in pots?

Outdoor in ground.
The others start yellowing also but not like this one.The one with the problems is the biggest like 2.5 meters and really wide.You think its hungry ?
I think of spraying roots with deltamethrin a pyrethrin synthetic version but i dont want to spray it whole again.I have some bugs but now they are verry little.

GNick55 · Sep 6, 2021

CookingBrownie said:
Outdoor in ground.
The others start yellowing also but not like this one.The one with the problems is the biggest like 2.5 meters and really wide.You think its hungry ?
I think of spraying roots with deltamethrin a pyrethrin synthetic version but i dont want to spray it whole again.I have some bugs but now they are verry little.

does the soil have clay in it? did you notice when digging the hole?

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

GNick55 said:
does the soil have clay in it? did you notice when digging the hole?

Not that i know. the soil is worm castings peat chicken manure perlite and the one that is in the greenhouse but it is good.dont know whats happening….

Imzzaudae · Sep 6, 2021

2" Chicken shit in a 20L bucket. Fill the bucket with water and mix well every few hours. Let stand over night.
Mix well in the morning, then dump the bucket around the base of the plant. Everything on the ground.
This will get the plant what it needs in short order. Your plant is hungry.

GNick55 · Sep 6, 2021

CookingBrownie said:
Not that i know. the soil is worm castings peat chicken manure perlite and the one that is in the greenhouse but it is good.dont know whats happening….

ok., than it’s just hungry.,

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

Imzzaudae said:
2" Chicken shit in a 20L bucket. Fill the bucket with water and mix well every few hours. Let stand over night.
Mix well in the morning, then dump the bucket around the base of the plant. Everything on the ground.
This will get the plant what it needs in short order. Your plant is hungry.

isnt that a lot chicken manure with High Nitrogen it is in flower i dumped worm castings as top soil 2 weeks ago.Cant i just feed it with a synthetic fertiliser?

Like this one

Im feeding it with this
Green Sensation - 0 - 8 - 9
Plagron Terra Bloom - 2-2-4
Everything at half strength from the manufacture s recommendations

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

GNick55 said:
ok., than it’s just hungry.,

Do you think i posted a reply with what i am feeding i also have a veg nutrient Nitrogen
Can you look at the other plants are they hungry too ? What to do to go with the chicken manure or synthetic fertiliser?

GNick55 · Sep 6, 2021

ok i’ll be back
don’t use synthetic stuff with organics.
don’t worry, it’s just hungry..
i need to eat!!

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

Well i already use organics with synthetic the whole grow and everything was top till 1 week ago.
i use plagron Power roots . Enzyme and made 4 top soil dressings 2 chicken and 2 worm castinga the whole grow.Beside that i add nutrients every 2 or 3rd watering
1ml/L - Power Roots
1ml/L / Enzyme
2.5 ml/L - Terra Grow through veg

flowering - 2.5ml/L / Terra Bloom
0.5ml/L - Green Sensation 1 time it is a PK Booster from 4 to 6 weeks.

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

GNick55 said:
ok i’ll be back
don’t use synthetic stuff with organics.
don’t worry, it’s just hungry..
i need to eat!!

I just dont want to overfeed i had problems last year.

Imzzaudae · Sep 6, 2021

Worm castings are OK for top dressing and as a base for a good potting souil. But it takes time - months to leach nutrients down into the soil where it can be utilised buy the plant. If you just want to feed the plant you can give it a good watering with Mirael Grow as far as that goes. What ever you are comfortable with. The trick is, never mix more than 1/2 strength suggested on the lable. On any off the shelf fertilizer. You may have to feed a little more often but it's enough and you won't burn the plant. If you want to grow more organically. Try the chicken poop in a bucket of water. Once in the spring and once mid summer. Add a cup of Gypsum pr bag of potting soil, This works wonders when mixing your potting soil. Water 2 or 3 times over the season with Epsom salts. Keep the PH 6.0 buy adding 1 tablespoon of apple cydar vinigar to a 7L watering can of rain water.

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

Imzzaudae said:
Worm castings are OK for top dressing and as a base for a good potting souil. But it takes time - months to leach nutrients down into the soil where it can be utilised buy the plant. If you just want to feed the plant you can give it a good watering with Mirael Grow as far as that goes. What ever you are comfortable with. The trick is, never mix more than 1/2 strength suggested on the lable. On any off the shelf fertilizer. You may have to feed a little more often but it's enough and you won't burn the plant. If you want to grow more organically. Try the chicken poop in a bucket of water. Once in the spring and once mid summer. Add a cup of Gypsum pr bag of potting soil, This works wonders when mixing your potting soil.
Water 2 or 3 times over the season with Epsom salts. Keep the PH 6.0 buy adding 1 tablespoon of apple cydar vinigar to a 7L watering can of rain water.

Well problem is im already doing that Ph is ok nutrients is always HALF strength from the label instructions.Im feeding it good do i have to add more nutrients ?The plants are pretty big . Can root aphids do things like that ?

Rooke · Sep 6, 2021

Hey there I’m just wondering if your soil has compacted since you first prepared it ? As the plant matures it’s roots grow outwards more so than down and if the soil doesn’t allow your feed to reach those roots your uptake could suffer. I grow in pots and have to poke holes into the soil to allow my feed to absorb properly in your case you could take a pitch fork and poke holes into your soil at least 12-16 inches out from your stem all around it don’t go nuts but enough to see your drainage improve you won’t hurt your plants and only 3/4 the length of the pitch fork. And give it a bit of a wiggle when it’s in. Your going to feel some resistance as you push it in but don’t worry it won’t cause issues. My neighbor has a couple of monsters growing the main stalk is bigger than a beer can and was having the same issues a week later she is thriving again! Just my 2 cents worth

Rooke · Sep 6, 2021

CookingBrownie said:
Well problem is im already doing that Ph is ok nutrients is always HALF strength from the label instructions.Im feeding it good do i have to add more nutrients ?The plants are pretty big . Can root aphids do things like that ?

I wouldn’t be afraid of increasing your N to 60-70 % of full strength but when you make a change only change 1 then wait to see if it helps growing in soil is very slow to react. Especially in large plants give it a week

Santa.ClausHOHOHO · Sep 6, 2021

Depending on what amendments were added to the dirt to help turn it into SOIL, its kind of a no no to add synthetic nutrients into the ground. It makes it pretty tough to diagnose a problem. A lot of folks do add nutes to the ground BUT...
My opinion, here is what I would do. If your sure its not bug related, I'd scruff up the soil on the surface, then do the pitch fork thing, push the forks into the soil out along the drip line. Then go get you some "Real Growers Recharge" make a batch of that, use as directed and water um.

I do the pitch fork thing once or twice a week and every 7 to 10 days I add recharge, in the mornings... I do it to all my Cannabis plants, house plants, Veggies etc... Fuckers stand up like a Wedding Dick.

CookingBrownie · Sep 6, 2021

Rooke said:
Hey there I’m just wondering if your soil has compacted since you first prepared it ? As the plant matures it’s roots grow outwards more so than down and if the soil doesn’t allow your feed to reach those roots your uptake could suffer. I grow in pots and have to poke holes into the soil to allow my feed to absorb properly in your case you could take a pitch fork and poke holes into your soil at least 12-16 inches out from your stem all around it don’t go nuts but enough to see your drainage improve you won’t hurt your plants and only 3/4 the length of the pitch fork. And give it a bit of a wiggle when it’s in. Your going to feel some resistance as you push it in but don’t worry it won’t cause issues. My neighbor has a couple of monsters growing the main stalk is bigger than a beer can and was having the same issues a week later she is thriving again! Just my 2 cents worth

It was very lightweight but it could have became compacted main stalk is like a beer can also haha.I will try the drainage with the holes.How to increase the N im in flower to give it Veg N nutrient or to increase flowering nutrients ? Sugar Royal says it 9 - 0 - 0 N . Thanks much!!

Fast early yellowing and leaves pointing up.Help please.

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