Feds arrest medical pot providers suing government

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Four of the six medical marijuana providers who are suing the U.S. government over last year's raids of pot businesses across Montana have been arrested on federal drug charges, their lawyer in the civil lawsuit said Tuesday.
The medical marijuana businesses of the four plaintiffs arrested Tuesday and last Thursday were among more than 26 homes, businesses and warehouses searched in sweeping raids last spring that shut down many providers and cast a pall over Montana's booming pot business.
The lawsuit, which challenges the constitutionality of raiding medical marijuana providers who were operating under a voter-approved Montana law, is before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals after a district judge rejected their claims in January.
The attorney in the lawsuit, Paul Livingston of New Mexico, said he did not know why the plaintiffs in the lawsuit are being targeted now.
"It seems senseless to us. It's as if the government wants to show how devastating they can be to people's lives because they're involved in this business," Livingston said.
One of those arrested, Randy Leibenguth of Belgrade, said he does not believe the timing of the arrests has anything to do with the civil lawsuit. His business, MCM Caregivers, was raided in March 2011.
"They were taking a year to gather information to come up with a good case and make it hard for us to fight back," he said Tuesday.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Jessica Fehr said federal prosecutors did not have comment on the new arrests. Federal prosecutors have repeatedly refused to comment on the raids and subsequent prosecution of medical marijuana providers.
Leibenguth and another Belgrade medical marijuana provider, Luke Mulvaugh, were arrested last Thursday along with Leibenguth's wife, Stephanie. They spent five days in jail before being released on Monday, Leibenguth said.
They were indicted on charges of conspiracy to manufacture marijuana, manufacture and distribution of marijuana and possession with intent to distribute marijuana, according to court documents. The conspiracy charge carries a minimum of 10 years to life in prison and a $5 million fine if convicted, while the two other charges carry a punishment of at least five years in prison each.
Paul Schmidt of Sleeping Giant Caregivers in Helena and Chris Williams of Montana Cannabis, which had locations across the state, were indicted Tuesday, Livingston said. Copies of the charging papers were not immediately available.
A fifth plaintiff in the lawsuit was not raided last spring, while the sixth plaintiff has already pleaded guilty to earlier charges related to the raids, Livingston said.
Chris Lindsey, the former attorney for Montana Cannabis, also was indicted on Tuesday on conspiracy, marijuana manufacturing and firearm possession charges. He is not a plaintiff in the lawsuit.
Williams has been particularly outspoken in his criticism of the raids. He told The Associated Press last month that he expected to be arrested and that he planned to fight the charges instead of taking a plea deal like many other raided pot providers.
The plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the federal government say the heavy-handed governmental approach has countermanded the will of Montana voters who approved the state's medical marijuana law in 2004 that allowed them to grow and produce the drug for medical consumption.
U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy dismissed their claims in January, ruling that state law does not shield medical marijuana providers from federal prosecution. He cited a 2005 U.S. Supreme Court decision that said the supremacy clause applies in medical marijuana cases.
The supremacy clause says that federal law prevails if there is any conflict between state and federal statutes.
The plaintiffs have appealed, and Livingston said the lawsuit is an important test of the division between federal and state laws regulating the use of marijuana.
"It demonstrates the clash between the government and the states which have made it legal," Livingston said. "The government has just devastated the business, the industry and the caregivers in a seemingly senseless way."
 
budfriend

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I know. I voted for Obama last time around...... WHAT CHANGED.. exept more debt and worse medicial raids
 
oldirtybastard

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Who said it was supposed to be GOOD change?? He sure has made changes.. But their def not good for US... All Obama is, is a good reader and a lyin socialist.. LOL. ~ODB~
 
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What would socialism have to do with anything? Obama is so far from being a socialist that it is not even funny. I would have to ask you to go ahead and define socialism, just because I am sure that the definition and Obama's record are not in sync. Obama is a capitalist, evident by his backing of wall-street, the insurance mandated health-care system, tax breaks for new investment capital gains.....etc., etc. Far from a socialist!
 
fishwhistle

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ok maybe not a socialist but a damn liar for sure...
 
RELOADER212

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ok maybe not a socialist but a damn liar for sure...
Just like Bush, and the rest of them. I hate to vote for Obama again, but truth be told he is friendler to marijuana then any Republican will be. Republican presidents stick to party lines on marijuana and that has been a zero tolerance, lock them up mentality that goes back to Nixon.
Republicans do not want marijuana legal for any reason medical or recreational. Republicans preach less big government, then want to ban everything, No medcial marijuana, No abortions, No stem cell research, that does not sound like less government. Funny but when it comes to guns, they dont want any interference though.
 
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Hahaha. Wow. Tell me how he isnt a socialist?? More like marxist.. He wants to change the constitution... Thinks its outdated... lol. What a joke. Im not evan going to go into health care.. All ill say on that is if he controls healthcare, he controls your life.. If anything he is just targeting the med community just to get votes.. Obama has put us 5 trillion in debt so far.. What good has he done?? ~ODB~
 
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Hahaha. Wow. Tell me how he isnt a socialist?? More like marxist.. He wants to change the constitution... Thinks its outdated... lol. What a joke. Im not evan going to go into health care.. All ill say on that is if he controls healthcare, he controls your life.. If anything he is just targeting the med community just to get votes.. Obama has put us 5 trillion in debt so far.. What good has he done?? ~ODB~
so you voting for mitt rommney?????
 
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Again you didn't define socialism, lets start there. Marxist? Really? Have you ever read the "communist manifesto", I ask just because I cannot see any relation between Marx/Lennin and Obama. Every President has attempted or accomplished an expansion of presidential powers, but that in no means changes their political theory/ideology. Now you ask what good has he done and these are things that come to mind: first, regardless of what you think about Obama's healthcare plan the insurance companies are now forced to not deny coverage for preexisting conditions and cannot drop patients for being stricken with costly diseases like they have made billions by doing. Second, conspiracy theories aside, Obama is the most effective military leader in regards to battling terrorists, take a look at the F.B.I. 10 most wanted list when he entered, primarily terrorists. Now, since all the number one terrorists are captured or dead, the number 1 guy is a pedophile. We have the end of Iraq, that is amazing considering that the other side for some reason still sees a need in that occupation, Obama has saved numerous lives by doing this. The reliance upon NATO in handling Gadafi in Libya went a long way in the International community by showing a new U.S. tactic on foreign policy. Is he perfect? No! Have there been mistakes made and promises broken? Yes! But, what you are speaking of simply is not true, and therefore not a valid critique.....
 
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There are no two parties. They are one in the same. Same agenda.
There are differences, albeit slight, but differences. If you are part of the 99% of people, odds are democrats have had more friendly policies: social security, medicare, civil rights, etc. The Republicans have brought us: trickle down economics, tax breaks for the super wealthy, have stood in the way of all aforementioned progress. While I can agree we live in a country primarily governed by corporations, or at least strongly influenced, there are differences between the parties.
 
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Hahaha. Wow. Tell me how he isnt a socialist?? More like marxist.. He wants to change the constitution... Thinks its outdated... lol. What a joke. Im not evan going to go into health care.. All ill say on that is if he controls healthcare, he controls your life.. If anything he is just targeting the med community just to get votes.. Obama has put us 5 trillion in debt so far.. What good has he done?? ~ODB~

Okay- I think a few definitions are in order:
'Marxism' is; state run economy, communal ownership- read, no individual ownership- and a totalitarian government.
'Socialism' is; state run economy, private ownership and a democratic government.
'Democracy' is; private enterprise driven economy, private ownership, and a democratic government.
'Fascism' is; private enterprise, private ownership, and a totalitarian government.

By these definitions- and if you disagree with them, I invite you to find better definitions and share them here- Obama's government supports private enterprise, private property, a democratic government. That's 'democracy'. Republicans, on the other hand- while managing an Orwellian dance of doublespeak to the contrary- are clearly advocating for totalitarianism on one issue after another- with the somewhat silly 'exception' of gun control laws. That would make their current position closer to 'fascism'.

If you think 'Obamacare' is somehow worse than the situation it attempts to correct, then I suggest you spend less time listening to Fox commentators and more time actually reading the law. Nevermind the idea of 'Obama controlling healthcare'. That's just so ignorant it's silly.

He made a serious error in his choice of DEA head- she suckered him by paying lip service to leaving MMJ alone and then pulling the bait and switch upon confirmation- and he's well aware he's been paying dearly for it ever since. He can't fire her until he's re-elected, and by law he can't dictate her actions. If you don't like what the DEA is doing, then by all means, complain! The more complaints there are, the more political cover he'll have for making a change that will of course be deeply opposed, and certainly misrepresented, by republicans.

On to the nat'l debt. IF you've been paying attention- and your comments betray how poorly you've managed, if at all- you'd know by now that it was the Bush 43 adminsistration that took a budget surplus handed to them by the Clinton administration and turned into a gigantic budget deficit by providing the single biggest tax cut in living memory- to the wealthy, who certainly didn't need it. Therefore the debt piling up is clearly a Republican construct that they've been trying to avoid responsibility for ever since, with hare-brained and unsupportable statements like the one you quoted.

The same Bush 43 administration also repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, the lynchpin of financial stability in this country since the Crash of '29 and the resultant Great Depression. THAT was the real proximal cause of the financial meltdown, and the attempts by the current administration to 'prime the pump' of the economy has in fact worked to prevent us all from sliding off the cliff into another great depression. Or, perhaps you'd prefer standing in a breadline?

It is high time you educated yourself about who did what to this country, quick, before someone actually makes the mistake of believing anything you've said.
 
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I'd love to see some data on the percentages of Americans who believe Obamacare is a mistake and that it represents "socialized medicine" WHO AT THE SAME TIME RECIEVE SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE/MEDICAID benefits.

There are A LOT of cocksuckers out there with their hand out for these checks who make a lot of NOISE about Obamacare and "socialism"....know what I mean?

IMO, if you receive this kinda SOCIALIZED aid you should have NO SAY in what happens to others/with THEIR healthcare/with "Obamacare". If you want to have a say...give up YOUR free Gov't handout first...then you can speak intelligently and with cause/merit/a sense of REALITY.

Most Americans would be better off trying to loose enough weight to SEE THEIR SHOES AGAIN than worrying about "Obamacare" and someone else getting something >they< might not get.

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This whole obama said there wouldnt be raids is nonsense. Please if your gonna vote learn stuff. He said he hopes to make stuff like that a non priority but its not his call. At first it was quiet, but people are complaining calling feds and it kept adding up so now they out here making examples. Jackasses that think obama said he wasnt gonna raid anymore prob took advantage of that fantasy like many do. That american weed show is a prime example. Fucn reres have plants where children who are too young to know the buds are wht u want not the leaves can get to em. Like i didnt know that was illegal. And then saying u have patients but never met em or no paperwork its a fucking joke. U want the feds to ignore shit like this? They cant wastethey time with bums so they make examples of the big guys and let that trickle down in hopes people wont be so stupid. And the more dumb fucks the more reason they have to argue they need a special task force for it. Niw theres a fuckin weed division where all they do is weed busts. If so many jackasses werent on front street that would never exist.
 
sanvanalona

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ttystick, and skyhigh: Hell yeah boys!!!!!! Stoked to see some positive intelligent responses on here, not just beliefs. With beliefs there are no arguments, first day in philosophy class, yeah? Anyway, I know we are not supposed to get too political on these forums, but man I cannot sit back and read people blatantly lie about the President. Especially when this election effects us so much. IF you don't believe me look what happened in Montana, the door was open to the feds because of all the jackasses that were elected during the 2010 teaparty bullshit, and they fucked us hard and good. Trust me, some of the people that are pleading guilty right now in federal court were out there stumping for the Republicans that put them there. This is real, not just a feeling/idea. Good work on speaking a little fact based truth, and lets open the door for more!
 
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Hahaha. Wow. Tell me how he isnt a socialist?? More like marxist.. He wants to change the constitution... Thinks its outdated... lol. What a joke. Im not evan going to go into health care.. All ill say on that is if he controls healthcare, he controls your life.. If anything he is just targeting the med community just to get votes.. Obama has put us 5 trillion in debt so far.. What good has he done?? ~ODB~
WTF? I wish the goverment would run healthcare, and get rid of the insurance companies. We are the only country in the world that operates in a medical for profit capacity. It shouldn't be that way. My wife pays about 25% of her check to health insurance, and then it only covers 80% with a $1,000 deductable, and they wont accept her shoulder problems (pre exsisting condition). it is bullshit, people should not go broke over healthcare, it should be a rite that the goverment provides IMO. 70% of all bankruptcies are from medical.
 
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This is what happens when you fuck with the devil...uh oh I mean feds.
 
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