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Feds Can No Longer Legally Raid Legit Mmj Operations

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Truth be told I don't give 2 monkeys and a horse who Personally called for anything, All i give a shit is that Industrial hemp is getting a boost in the us now, theres potential for more states to legalize mmj and outright legalize cannabis period...

I could care 2 shits to the wind what political party voted for what, All i give a shit is if the president signs the bill into law and we start seeing changes..

Politicians come and go, Laws tend to stick around longer..

Their your words... I was just pointing out the inaccuracies of them, Relax.
House wrote the bill, Senate passed the bill along with some drama, President signed the bill into law... Simple as that ;)
 
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No, those funds usually stay with the agency, based on my own understanding. I could be wrong, but again based on what I've read, this is how many local police departments are funding themselves. Didn't Mogrow post a thread about his experiences recently with basically the same thing? Or maybe it was someone else... or another thread... :eek:

Where will the DEA get the funds tho if they can't raid people who are in compliance with state laws? ( aside from the criminals who are laundering money and attempting to skirt the law? )

Their your words... I was just pointing out the inaccuracies of them, Relax

The measure, which Rohrabacher championed with Rep. Sam Farr, D-Calif., had the support of large numbers of Democrats for years. Enough Republicans joined them this year to put it over the top. When the House first passed the measure earlier this year, 49 Republicans voted aye.

Some Republicans are pivoting off their traditional anti-drug platform at a time when most voters live in states where medical marijuana is legal, in many cases as a result of ballot measures.

Polls show that while Republican voters are far less likely than the broader public to support outright legalization, they favor allowing marijuana for medical use by a commanding majority. Legalization also has great appeal to millennials, a demographic group with which Republicans are aggressively trying to make inroads.


^^ Like i said this bill would not have passed without republican support.
 
That was why I included the ACLU link, as these laws apply to all levels of government. Some of it goes to the feds, some to the state (Kamala Harris, anyone?), as well as local agencies. I probably should have written more to correct the initial assertion.
 
Where will the DEA get the funds tho if they can't raid people who are in compliance with state laws? ( aside from the criminals who are laundering money and attempting to skirt the law? )



The measure, which Rohrabacher championed with Rep. Sam Farr, D-Calif., had the support of large numbers of Democrats for years. Enough Republicans joined them this year to put it over the top. When the House first passed the measure earlier this year, 49 Republicans voted aye.

Some Republicans are pivoting off their traditional anti-drug platform at a time when most voters live in states where medical marijuana is legal, in many cases as a result of ballot measures.

Polls show that while Republican voters are far less likely than the broader public to support outright legalization, they favor allowing marijuana for medical use by a commanding majority. Legalization also has great appeal to millennials, a demographic group with which Republicans are aggressively trying to make inroads.


^^ Like i said this bill would not have passed without republican support.

Oh... I thought we were talking about "From the recent spending bill: Sec. 538." as squiggly stated @ the beginning of the thread... These threads tend to bounce around A little, pardon my confusion ;)
 
Here, a friend of my mom's shared some of their NorCal-grown Blueberry with me. I have it mixed with some of brother Loran's Lemon Taffy. Yes, Dabbie, it's a joint. Enjoy the fuckin' flowers, mang!

~~=== <puff puff, pass>
 
Here, a friend of my mom's shared some of their NorCal-grown Blueberry with me. I have it mixed with some of brother Loran's Lemon Taffy. Yes, Dabbie, it's a joint. Enjoy the fuckin' flowers, mang!

~~=== <puff puff, pass>

Flowers are for girls haven't you heard :P
 
They can and will get a large portion of their money from typical traffic stops.theres lots of online articles on people getting pulled over in southern states (some northern to) and just because they have a large sum of cash it gets taken from mostly state cops or sherriffs.they have even gone as far as to brag about their takes to other cops in chat rooms.this shit is real folks, and big biz for law enforcement, who want to keep busy and keep their jobs
 
@Seamaiden I think this article sums it up pretty well :D

Congress Passes Major Medical Marijuana Reform Before Holidays

NEW YORK (MainStreet) - In a dramatic reaffirmation of a House vote earlier this year, House and Senate leaders reached an agreement last week on the major spending bill funding next year's federal government that also includes a measure to defund DEA interdiction in states where marijuana is legal under state law. In the Senate this summer, as this issue began to threaten other legislative matters, forward motion was temporarily halted by Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-Md) in an effort to force the White House to weigh in on the issue.

All forms of cannabis interdiction (for THC and CBD crops and product if not consumption) as well as hemp are affected by this historic victory for reform.

"The measure included in House-Senate budget compromise is truly historic," said Kris Hermes, spokesperson for Americans For Safe Access (ASA) the leading medical marijuana advocacy organization in the country. "Finally, Congress has said the status quo of aggressive federal enforcement against patients and their providers in medical marijuana states is no longer acceptable."

Hermes explained that the measure restricting DOJ funds for medical marijuana enforcement goes far beyond weak guidance memoranda from the Obama Administration and is a clear mandate from Congress: leave medical marijuana enforcement to local and state officials. If signed by the president, this measure will halt numerous criminal prosecutions and civil litigation in their tracks. It will also hopefully end the fear and intimidation experienced by medical marijuana patients, providers, doctors, and lawmakers alike."

The impact of this development cannot be overstated and will affect the majority of Americans living in the U.S. today. Not only does the DEA lose money for paramilitary-like SWAT team led drug interdiction on the street level, but it will also lose funding that allows lengthy and expensive legal prosecutions of those caught up in the net of changing times and laws.

This includes the so-called "Kettle Falls 5" - a family of medical users in Washington State now facing trial in February (with a newly appointed judge) and decade-long sentencing mandates for what was essentially a home grow operation for personal use.

This development will also derail federal prosecution of asset forfeiture cases now ongoing in California against state legal and licensed medical dispensaries in Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco and Orange County. For years, licensed marijuana businesses have been routinely denied defense at trial when charged under federal law because of the Schedule I status of marijuana under the Controlled Substances Act. Thanks to a Supreme Court ruling in the early aughts (that included the vote of now pro medical use and retired Justice Stevens), there had been for over a decade a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that said that the so-called "medical defense" for the violation of federal law was an invalid one.

That has now been essentially overturned by a funding battle that many advocates are heralding as a new day particularly for medical marijuana reform in Congress.

"We now have a solid foundation from which to establish a more comprehensive public health policy at the federal level," summed up Michael Liszewski, government affairs director with Americans for Safe Access (ASA). "We applaud this Congress for doing the right thing by protecting the rights of patients, and ending a years-long attack on the medical marijuana community. We expect this act to end the prosecution. In fact, the DEA has said this will prevent them from conducting any marijuana enforcement activity in the listed states. We don't think the amendment goes that far, but based on the legislative intent of the sponsors, it is clear that the DOJ can no longer use funds to arrest and prosecute against lawful state medical marijuana conduct."

--Written by Marguerite Arnold for MainStreet

http://www.mainstreet.com/article/c...dical-marijuana-reform-before-holidays/page/3
 
No, those funds usually stay with the agency, based on my own understanding. I could be wrong, but again based on what I've read, this is how many local police departments are funding themselves. Didn't Mogrow post a thread about his experiences recently with basically the same thing? Or maybe it was someone else... or another thread... :eek:

This, from the ACLU: https://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/civil-asset-forfeiture
Yes mogrow did sea and another guy just popped up at another site that got caught with 100ps and the same exact story as mogrow more or less.
Dabbie,Under current US law every person from highest to lowest in the MJ trade is laundering money so stop throwing that around,its one of the oldest tricks in their book.If you use any money criminally gained its money laundering,if you dont claim your criminal income on your tax return its tax evasion,if you do claim it on your tax return its a signed admission of guilt,catch 22.We are as fucked today as we were 5,10 or 20 years ago until we have federal decriminalization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering
 
I didn't read through all the posts in here....seemed to get off the original topic....@fishwhistle is correct though....until marijuana is rescheduled no dog and pony bill signing is going to stop law enforcement harrassment....and authorities no longer seizing your money??? what a joke...
 
I didn't read through all the posts in here....seemed to get off the original topic....@fishwhistle is correct though....until marijuana is rescheduled no dog and pony bill signing is going to stop law enforcement harrassment....and authorities no longer seizing your money??? what a joke...

I didn't read this post, but allow me to comment on it by wildly opining without any factual basis that you're just making this up as you go along.

See what I did there?
 
I didn't read this post, but allow me to comment on it by wildly opining without any factual basis that you're just making this up as you go along.

See what I did there?
I see. you are correct. I commented wildly without any factual basis for it...the title of the thread made me laugh.....my appologies for clogging things up
 
I didn't read through all the posts in here....seemed to get off the original topic....@fishwhistle is correct though....until marijuana is rescheduled no dog and pony bill signing is going to stop law enforcement harrassment....and authorities no longer seizing your money??? what a joke...
I didn't read this post, but allow me to comment on it by wildly opining without any factual basis that you're just making this up as you go along.

See what I did there?
I've been in the thick of the thread, and he said what I wanted to. Congress could have rescheduled, jimmy's right about that, instead of this... this... what do I call this? It's a platitude is what it feels like, in the face of scheduling. Ya feel me there?

I mean, when I found out that several mechanisms exist for rescheduling, I've been pretty fuckin' pissed off about it ever since. It's like no one wants to make a decision, yet they have the power and the will of the people, so we can only surmise a very few reasons for the recalcitrance here.
 
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