Feds Targeting California Pot Dispensaries; Told To Shut Down In 45 Days

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Trolled long enough. I agree with the poster who thinks the FG is just trying to thin the herd and scare away investors. I, for one, am tired of running into collectives who are run by Persian mafia...I'd love to see the law used as it was intended; people with real medical need able to get medication. I personally don't care for young 20's kids with, uh.. some kind of "pain", spending their Del Taco part-time income on getting high on my medicine, lovingly grown. It lowers the standard and defeats the purpose of the law passed all these years ago (finally)!

Have to disagree with your point, but I understand where you're coming from.

I look at it like this way: the pharmaceutical sleep-aid industry is a $2 billion industry. Oxycontin alone is a $3 billion dollar product. My dr. recommendation is for sleep-aid because the pharmaceutical solutions for sleeplessness are fucking nuts. Pain is also one of the hardest things to diagnose because it is completely relative. I would rather have someone smoke heavy indicas to relieve an ankle sprain than take on a journey of opiate use and eventual abuse.
 
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How much more days until the chit goes down. [YOUTUBE]XE0R299pEiM[/YOUTUBE]
 
Surfr

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Anyone noticing more clubs shutting down? There are 3 in the town I live in and and all 3 are still open.
 
singingcrow

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I certainly don't disagree with that! Guess I ought to ammend my opinon to include any real medical need, from a sprain to painful last-stage cancer. Thanks for that!
 
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Just a couple here closed down allready,they were ran badly anyways,no loss at all.All the good ones are still going strong!! I just had the cops do the numbers count at the house,42 total with less then 2 pounds of dried goods.They just took a few pics,says all looks good and walk away,,Sweet!! Keep it small and you will have no problems!!!
 
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NORML Attorneys File Multiple Constitutional Challenges To Federal
Medical Marijuana Crackdown Posted by Ninja Smoker at 1:31 pm on
November 7, 2011 Medical Marijuana Policy Add comments






By Russ Belville
NORML Attorneys Matt Kumin, David Michael, and Alan Silber, have filed
suit (read here) in the four federal districts in California to
challenge the Obama Administration’s recent crackdown on medical
marijuana operations in the Golden State.Aided by expert testimony from
NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano and research from California NORML
Director Dale Gieringer, the suits seek an injunction against the
recent federal intrusion into state medical marijuana laws at least and
at most a declaration of the unconstitutionality of the Controlled
Substances Act with respect to state regulation of medical marijuana.
The NORML attorneys allege the federal government has engaged in
entrapment of California patients and their caregivers. They point to
the courts’ dismissal of County of Santa Cruz, WAMM et al. v. Eric
Holder et al. where the Department of Justice (DOJ) “promised a federal
judge that it had changed its policy toward the enforcement of its
federal drug laws relative to California medical cannabis patients.”
So after 2009, California providers had reason to believe that the
federal government had changed its policy. The legal argument is
called ‘judicial estoppel’, which basically means that courts can’t
hold true to a fact in one case and then disregard it in another.
Kumin, Michael, and Silber also argue the government has engaged in
‘equitable estoppel’, which most people commonly think of as
‘entrapment’. That is to say, you can’t bust a person for committing a
crime when the authorities told him it wasn’t a crime to do it!
Under established principles of estoppel and particularly in the
context of the defense of estoppel by entrapment, defendants to a
criminal action are protected and should not be prosecuted if they have
reasonably relied on statements from the government indicating that
their conduct is not unlawful. That principle should be applied to
potential defendants as well, the plaintiffs in this action. Such
parties, courts have noted, are “person sincerely desirous of
obeying the law”. They “accepted the information as true and [were]…not
on notice to make further inquiries.” U.S. v. Weitzenhoff, 1 F. 3d
1523, 1534 (9th Cir. 1993).
The US Constitution figures prominently in the legal challenge as well.
The 9th Amendment says that “The enumeration in the Constitution, of
certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others
retained by the people.” The NORML attorneys argue that threatening
seizure of property and criminal sanctions violates the rights of the
people to “consult with their doctors about their bodies and health.”
The 10th Amendment provides that “The powers not delegated to the
United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States,
are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The NORML
attorneys argue that the States have the “primary plenary power to
protect the health of its citizens” and since the government has
recognized and not attempted to stop Colorado’s state-run medical
marijuana dispensary program, it cannot suggest Colorado has a state’s
right that California does not.
The 14th Amendment says that all citizens have equal protection under
the law. The NORML attorneys argue that the federal government:
1. Actively provides cannabis for medical purposes to individuals
through its own IND program.
2. Actively allows patients in Colorado to access medical cannabis
through a state-licensing system that allows individuals to make profit
from the sales of medical cannabis.
3. Actively restricts scientific research into the medical value and
use of cannabis to alleviate human suffering and pain.
Thus, according to Kumin, Michael, and Silber, the government can’t be
allowing Colorado medical marijuana commerce, engaging it its own IND
program that mails 300 joints a month to four federal medical marijuana
patients yet squelching all attempts to study medical value of
marijuana, then have a rational basis for shutting down medical
marijuana dispensaries in California. Under the 14th Amendment, the
feds can’t treat Californians differently than Coloradoans and
differently than four US citizens who get legal federal medical
marijuana.
Finally, while acknowledging that Raich v. Gonzales 545 US 1 (2005) set
the precedent that the Constitution’s Interstate Commerce Clause does
allow the feds to prosecute California’s medical marijuana, the NORML
attorneys argue:
…it is still difficult to imagine that marijuana grown only in
California, pursuant to California State law, and distributed only
within California, only to California residents holding state-issued
cards, and only for medical purposes, can be subject to federal
regulation pursuant to the Commerce Clause. For that reason, Plaintiffs
preserve the issue for further Supreme Court review, if necessary and
deemed appropriate.
We will keep you posted on all updates related to this groundbreaking
lawsuit. Archive of our interview with the lead attorneys in this case
is available in our “Audio/Video” section on The NORML Network.
Click here to join NORML today and help us in the fight to legalize
marijuana.
 
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up here in sac quite a few smaller ones closed, but most seem to still be rolling....geuss we'll see what happens if theyre just waiting till the 15th or what.....
 
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Just a couple here closed down allready,they were ran badly anyways,no loss at all.All the good ones are still going strong!! I just had the cops do the numbers count at the house,42 total with less then 2 pounds of dried goods.They just took a few pics,says all looks good and walk away,,Sweet!! Keep it small and you will have no problems!!!

HUH? Why were they even at your house?
 
Zonkerly

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Because someone called in on me last year.So now they will come by and do a count.It a f2cking bummer,but im still here,growing and smokeing everyday I can
 
markscastle

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I wouldn`t let em in my door! Don`t care if I`m legal or not they just don`t belong in my house,Hell I don`t even let my dog come in the house and I love him so why would I let the Goverment inside my home?
 
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I happened to visit a few different Co-Ops in the San Fernando Valley today, on my way around errands. Not as busy as usual. Security not tighter than normal, but I noticed more handouts, waivers and disclaimers than usual. I think this crackdown should have officially been called, "Crackpot Down 2011".

Maybe it is not exactly smoke and mirrors, but more, um.. funhouse mirror; it keeps changing shape and is not as big as it appears.

Lucky for my rear end and too! Things are not as big as they appear :hi
 
Zonkerly

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Move,why?So the cops know,so what!! Been here over 20 years same pad.Mostly outdoors,so anyone walking by my house knows I grow.I have nothing to hide or fear of.F@ck them,know your right,thats all !!!
 
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Move,why?So the cops know,so what!! Been here over 20 years same pad.Mostly outdoors,so anyone walking by my house knows I grow.I have nothing to hide or fear of.F@ck them,know your right,thats all !!!

Famous last words if I ever heard them!
 
markscastle

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Move,why?So the cops know,so what!! Been here over 20 years same pad.Mostly outdoors,so anyone walking by my house knows I grow.I have nothing to hide or fear of.F@ck them,know your right,thats all !!!

And you don`t have a problem with rippers? Hell,I moved way out in the back country to get away from rippers and still have problems! Seems I can be in the middle of mmj farms as far as you can see and I`m always the first to get hit.Thinking I`ll grow a few crops of ditch weed just for the rippers and maybe they`ll start leaving me alone for awhile! :sign0065:
 
singingcrow

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And you don`t have a problem with rippers? Hell,I moved way out in the back country to get away from rippers and still have problems! Seems I can be in the middle of mmj farms as far as you can see and I`m always the first to get hit.Thinking I`ll grow a few crops of ditch weed just for the rippers and maybe they`ll start leaving me alone for awhile! :sign0065:

Lol...that's like giving "alms to the poor". Good thinking!
 
Zonkerly

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I had one ripper myself this year,new kid on the block got put in place,no more problems there,so far.
 
Zonkerly

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I had one ripper myself this year,new kid on the block got put in place,no more problems there,so far.

Im done for this year and waiting too see what happens in March,might be last year growing around here the way things are going.:weed-sign:
 
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