First grow! KushXL autos from Growers Choice

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ComfortablyNumb

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You have a fair amount of flower started already. Just keep doing what you are doing.
 
AmokNewb

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Day 44: Same ol’ same ol’.

Still in stretch city with River. The tallest branches I bent over are already taken over and surpassed from where they where before I bent them over by other branches. This is getting really frustrating. She has not shown any signs of nitrogen deficiency yet after cutting it out of her diet. At this point though it looks like I may have to rearrange the upper part of my tent to try and raise the lights soon. I was really hoping to not have to do that.

I checked in on the plants before lights out yesterday and when I do I usually check the reservoir for PH level. When I did it this time it was at 4.57PH!!! Brought it back up to 5.9ish before the last feeding last night. Checked again this morning and it was about 5.4 so once again I brought it back to 5.9ish. Hopefully it will level out and stabilize now. My reservoir also seems a lot cloudier than previously. Not sure why it isn’t bacteria as it is fresh and only a few days old and sterilized with H2O2. I am thinking it might be the terpinator I am using. I started adding a lot more to the recipe now that we are in flower. Anyone else experience this with terpinator in a reservoir?

So anyway that’s about it for today. I might just go climb that beanstalk to the clouds that is River and see if I can’t find a golden goose. Cheers!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 45: Good morning all!

So quick update on each plant first I suppose.

Well River is still stretching a little it seems like it might have slowed down some at least. She is not putting on an inch plus every night now. Flower sights seem to be tightening up a bit more as well. I am trying to take @ComfortablyNumb advice and just let her ride since I do have flower in the tent. Hopefully this is it and she will really start producing flower now. Fingers crossed.

Clara is still trucking’ along and her flowers are slowly getting bigger. I tried to defoliate her a bit more to open up some air and to get some more light penetration to the lower flower sites yesterday.

But both are relatively healthy and growing. All good things. But the takeaway here is that considering they are the same exact strain and everything has been the same for them since seed, I am really surprised and how different of pheno’s that are. River would be way more than double the size of Clara without scrog and training. Not sure how I am feeling about Growers Choice at this point. These seeds were free but I do have a few other strains I bought from them. I am not sure I will run one of their strains next run. I think I want to try someone else and see how that works.

Now for my reservoir… ugh! It has gotten a bit more cloudy today. Also the PH was spiked to 6.55 after adjusting it yesterday morning to 5.9. I readjusted again this morning to 5.8 and added my H2O2 to the reservoir per my normal routine for sterilization.

I still think it is all that terpinator they tell you to use on the bottle. Next reservoir refill I am not going to add any and see what happens. If it is not the terpinator. Then I will cut out the yucca as that is just a wetting agent and see if that is the culprit. I suppose if it’s not neither of those then it could be bacteria, however, I am not seeing any slimes film or any smell.

But as we head into mid week of week two of flower, I think everything is going better than not. So happy farming everyone and good luck with your gardens!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 46: I actually think river is going into full flower finally! She already needs a good haircut and trim. I think I will wait until she is flowering a bit more though.

Clara is still chugging along and doing fairly well. Noticing a bit more light burn but there is nothing I can do about right now since River is doing good. I will just remove any burnt leaves. But it has been weird weather and getting a bit warm in my tent as well, so that might be a factor as well.

Now for my reservoir… that has some crazy sediment or something in the bottom even with my power head keeping everything else really mixed up. I am now pretty sure it is the terpinator. I am going to wait until my 5:00pm feeding and make some more flowering recipe nutrients and this time leave out the terpinator. Last thing I want to do is have to clean out my reservoir every 2-3 days because of it. Defeats the purpose of having a reservoir and auto feeding. I will report on how it looks in a few days if not start of week 3 of flower.

If anyone has any comments or concerns please let me know. I am trying to learn and research in my own but having some feedback is always a good thing. Cheers all and happy farming!

River:
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Clara:
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AmokNewb

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Day 47: Good morning all!
Nothing much new or exciting today to report. River is still stretching ever so slightly. I have pictures from my cam 8 hours apart from overnight to see just how much. Clara is still packing on the flower, even though I feel it is slow. That might be due to me having to average out the nutrients between a plant stretching and one in full flower mode. Now that I have went to early-mid bloom nutrient recipe, you can see the lack of Nitrogen in River, as well as some light stress.

So last night I had to empty and clean the reservoir again. It seemed that only after like 2-3 days it got super cloudy and slimy. I removed the terpinator from my mix and we will see how it looks in a few days. I mean does it even make sense any plants need 20ml per gallon of that stuff? Seems excessive. I have to make another 6 or so gallons of nutrient recipe today sometime as I ran out of time last night before I fell asleep. 🤪

I did add in my Kessil H80 Flora Nova little refugium light perched just above and to the side of Clara. That will give her some UV and IR. Or it should in theory. It was really good at growing macro algae into giant balls for my saltwater aquarium. 🤓 Time will tell.

Once Again good folks, have a great day and grow on!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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Garden bedtime:
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Garden morning:
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AmokNewb

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Day 48: I am getting so stressed at River, she just won’t stop growing and has officially overgrown my space. No matter what I do to her she just won’t quit. I have no place to bend the tallest branches, but the way she is growing all the branches are going to hit the lights soon. I cannot raise the light any higher the ratchet straps are maxed out and there is no room at the top anyway with my filter in the tent. So basically I am at a loss here. Clara is putting on weight but very slowly. She is starting to really get frosty now though which is cool to see. But she isn’t getting as much light as she should be because of River!

So far my reservoir has maintained its clarity and cleanliness without that nasty terpinator in it. I will still feed terpinator. But, I think I will only do it on the last top up of the reservoir before I am scheduled to clean it anyway within 2-3 days. Well that’s all I got today folks. Have a great day!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden or what you can see through river:
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Schwer

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Come on, River. Be cool and share the light. She really does look like a beast in that last pic.
 
AmokNewb

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Come on, River. Be cool and share the light. She really does look like a beast in that last pic.
Yeah she is a beast, if she does decide to produce some flowers for me they are going to be massive. Her stalks are sharpie size at the tops and the trunk is as big around as my wrist. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But she really needs to make up her mind pretty darn quick here.
 
SweetLeafGrow

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Can we see a photo of the top of your tent? Not sure what light you are using, but I know in my case, if I used the hardware that came with the light, I was losing 6-8" of head room because of the way it all puts together. I made some new mounting brackets out of copper wire and used those to gain those few inches if I needed them. It ended up I did not need that extra because mine did not stretch as much as I planned for but it's always good to have a plan just in case.

Perhaps that might be an option for you?
 
AmokNewb

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Can we see a photo of the top of your tent? Not sure what light you are using, but I know in my case, if I used the hardware that came with the light, I was losing 6-8" of head room because of the way it all puts together. I made some new mounting brackets out of copper wire and used those to gain those few inches if I needed them. It ended up I did not need that extra because mine did not stretch as much as I planned for but it's always good to have a plan just in case.

Perhaps that might be an option for you?
That’s a great idea! I have the spider farmer sf-4000. I do have some room still above my light. I was trying to avoid having to reroute everything. 😜 I have a power strip and all the junk at the top. But I guess I better clean it up and get that light raised. Don’t laugh at my messy tent attic lol. This pic was before I raised it another few inches and maxed out the ratchet straps. But I have some old light hooks from one of my aquariums I can try and get it to sit just under my filter. Next time I am going to put the filter and fan outside the tent.
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SweetLeafGrow

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You got a ton of room there brother. Try pusing your fan/filter assembly all the way to the back, bring extra duct in if you have to. I was able to do that and my light is just a tad bit higher than the bottom of the inline fan and still stays in the center of the tent.

You are also losing at least 10-12" in those light hangers. Rig up something that is more parallel with the light but that also gets you an inch or two vertical, with a loop in the center for the ratchet hook. Do that on both sides and you should be good to go and gain I would say almost a foot.

Additionally, if your light ballasts and intensity dial can be removed from the light, you can take them off, mount them to a small piece of plywood or osb, and then have them on the outside of your tent and run the wiring in through one of the circular duct vents. This will gain you some space and clean things up in the tent as well as take some of the heat outside of the tent if you are having temperature issues when the lights are on.
 
Schwer

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That's a great looking setup. I mean, I'm not sure your local Fire Marshall would agree but I'm a fan. 😉

Seeing that pic just made me consider the differences in air flow, ventilation and heat exchange with some of these LED setups. I have the slat type with a lot of ventilation, but my coverage is probably much more uneven. How are your temps down there?
 
AmokNewb

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@SweetLeafGrow @Schwer
So here is where we are at now. My light barely fits the tent I have maybe an inch on all four sides. But what I did was remove the rope hangers and put the cross bar through the wire hangers. That set the light to just under my fan. But I gained a good 8 inches or so!!! Woot woot! 🤞🏼 I run a pretty constant 78 degrees and 55% humidity humidity went up some with me in there but it will stabilize.
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AmokNewb

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Day 49: So yesterday afternoon I had to clean my tents “attic”. I took all electronics, power strip, timers, etc. out of the top of my tent space and moved them outside. This allowed me to get my light up another 8 inches or so. River keeps growing and growing. If you look at the pics of her does she not look like she is in flower mode? This is the only reason I haven’t gone to 12/12.

Clara is still flowering well, even though it isn’t as fast as I would have hoped.

Checked my reservoir this morning as I always do, and it is still clear and the PH rise over the last day was minimal. So after the last 2-3 days I can say the turpinator was definitely the culprit.

We close out week 3 of flower and that is all I have for this morning. Good day all!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 50: Welcome folks to what I am going to call officially week 1 of flower for River, and week 3 for Clara.
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River still slow to really flower but she definitely is. She seems really healthy and with super thick stalks and branches. If she decides to really flower I have a feeling they are going to be massive. Clara is awesome, even though I am probably light stressing her a bit still. I am going to make another diffuser and check the intensity later this afternoon.

Yesterday afternoon I made 6 gallons of mid bloom nutrient recipe and added terpinator back into it. I also cut out all the grow nutrients from my GH trio lineup. Now I always wait a good 15-20 minutes before checking and adjust final PH when making solution. Then I wait again and keep it up until it is perfect. I did all that yesterday. PH of the reservoir was at 6.04 before I added the new mix at a PH of 5.82. However this morning I think due to the terpinator my reservoir was super cloudy (after less than 24hrs) and had a PH drop down to 5.34… 😢 what gives here? I always make sure it is clean and always top off my H2O2 every 2 days or so. I am not super happy with this product at the recommended dosage they ask for. Seems like major overkill.

Next grow I have been thinking of trying Advanced Nutrient line, just because it sounds really easy in Coco and keeps a good PH for a long while.

That Kessil H80 refugium light I added is totally working. I can see even fan leaves mid to below the canopy that should not have trichomes on them have them only in the spot where that light gets through and almost concentrated on a certain spot. It is cool to see. I could not for the life of me get a picture but I will try harder later this afternoon.

Other than all that rambling I just did, I will be hands off (but not eyes off) the garden today. Have a fab day all!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 51: Nothing new to report from yesterday other than my killer hangover today. Everything seems to be trucking along as best as it can over here. Apparently I take really crappy pictures when I am hungover.

River is still a monster pheno, and the colas stems are as thick as bic pens at the top.

Clara seems to maybe have stalled out or bud growth just isn’t as fast for me. Probably from her being so crowded and light stressed. I will be turning the lights down a bit today.

Checked PH and it was at 6.34 so all I have done today and yesterday was adjust the mad PH swings that terpinator seems to induce in my reservoir. Enjoy! Lol

River:
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Clara:
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AmokNewb

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Day 52: Good morning all.

So yesterday was all hands off except for PH stuff for the reservoir.

Today I need to clean and disinfect my reservoir after my next feeding. Should be pretty much empty after that. Just to clarify I only have to clean it because of the terpinator I put in on my last too up. That stuff makes a reservoir very unhappy and gross.

I will be filling it with a mid flower nutrient recipe and cutting way back on cal mag as I think part of Claras problem is to much for her stage right now. Still trying to keep the balance for both plants. River is about two weeks behind Clara. But since they both get fed out of the same reservoir I have to find a balanced diet for both. Been a learning experience for my first grow.

That being said I assumed I wouldn’t have this problem this bad since I planted the same strain from the same breeder at the same time and did everything the exact same for both. The differences in these phenos is astounding. River is literally 3 times bigger than Clara and looks very Sativa to me. Any who…

As I said earlier today is reservoir and nutrient day but little else. Oh one last thing. I just raised my lights by a good 8 inches plus last week, River is already as close to the lights as she was before I moved them. 😜🤓 Have a good day peeps!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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