First grow! KushXL autos from Growers Choice

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Day 33: So yesterday I started cleaning as best as I could under the canopy. These plants are so squat and dense it makes it very difficult. Not to mention the halos in the way.
Next grow I am going to fill the pots more for sure and trim the halos so they are closer to the soil.

Since Clara is almost in full flower mode and River is showing a tad bit more pistils, I think I am going to mix up a batch of early flowering nutrients and mix it with my flip to pistils mix. I will also try to do a small amount of defoliation today if I can. Other than that we are mostly on auto pilot lately.

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 34: Late yesterday I turned my lights down to 60% from 65-70% as I think the discoloration on River was due to me turning them up earlier this week.

I also made some more nutrients but kept a bit more nitrogen in the mix due to the stretch. But started introducing a bit more bloom(2.25ml/g) and koolbloom(0.75ml/g).

I also did the best I can at clearing under the canopy. I got a few more small undeveloped flower sites and a bunch of fan leaves.

They look pretty good today from what I can tell, and, I feel this will be a pretty hands off day as well. River still isn’t flowering as much as Clara but she does have a few more visible pistils than the other day. I feel like I should be doing more with them, but, less is more right?

So other than checking on the reservoir PH and talking to them a couple times today I think that is about it. I would like to put up my second net but I think I might wait until I’m sure I will need it. If these plants stay as short as they have I probably won’t. Also the main stem is bigger than my thumb.

Grow on!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 35: Things are moving right along. Clara is stretching well and flower sites are forming well. River is showing more signs of flower but she is now almost a week behind Clara which was the runt. Not sure what to do about that at harvest time. I figure either harvest both when one is done or wait until one is a little over ripe and the other slower one is done.

This morning I checked the reservoir for PH and it climbed a bit but sitting at 6.1. also cleared some more foliage from under the canopy/netting. Trying to get as much airflow as I can without stressing them to much. I will probably take a little bit every couple days.

Going to make some early flower recipe nutrients today and top up my reservoir with that. Hoping this will slowly introduce those bloom nutrients gradually while still keeping some grow for the rest of the stretch. I will also probably turn my light back up just a hair and see what happens with that over the next few days. Last time I turned it up like 10ish percent and that was a bit much for River.

Anyway that’s it for week 5. See you tomorrow for what I am going to label the first week of flower. Cheers! 🥃🤓

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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While i hope your grow is successful Growers Choice sucks there beans are only f2 and unstable, if your going to run autoflowers try Methisto there pretty much the best. Good Luck.
 
AmokNewb

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While i hope your grow is successful Growers Choice sucks there beans are only f2 and unstable, if your going to run autoflowers try Methisto there pretty much the best. Good Luck.
Yeah I have heard mixed reviews, but, these were given to me as a gift so I ran them. I do have some other strains ready for the second grow. 😜 Some from Nirvana, Resin, Royal Queen, Seedsman, etc. I spent a lot of today just trying to figure out which one to grow next. 🤓

Cheers! 🥃
 
AmokNewb

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Day 36 and the start of week 6 since sprout: The first official week of flower for me ever! I feel like it’s my half birthday or skemthing. 😜

Super excited and proud I have made it this far. We are just about half way there.

So yesterday afternoon was pretty much hands off the plants except for just a bit of defoliation. I did make my first true early flower nutrient recipe and used that to top up the reservoir. So that was a bit exciting 🤓 The PH in the reservoir dropped some overnight so I raised that back up to 5.9-6.0 this morning.

But today should be another autopilot day and waiting on River to start her flowering cycle a bit more.

One question I do have is when to setup the second 6” scrog net? I feel I should wait a bit more to see how far they do stretch in the next week. Any recommendations are appreciated.

Have a good day and may all your gardens be fruitful.

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 37: So, yesterday I did a bit more defoliation, as these plants are dense and bushy as heck! I also setup my second 6” Scrog net now. I figured it wouldn’t hurt to have it in place if I need it.

I am still waiting on better signs of flower for River and hoping her getting some flowering nutrients might help force her to come along and join Clara a bit faster. However, I am seeing more and more pistils everyday just not as fast as Clara.

Checked my reservoir this morning as I always do and it went up to about 6.15PH. I am going to leave it there today. I will probably need to make some more nutrients and clean out my reservoir tomorrow.

I also raised my lights by about 1-2% late last night. I will need to keep an eye on this today and tomorrow. According to my phone app they are only at about 420ish ppfd. Which is a bit low for late veg and flip. I m hoping to slowly increase them to about 700 ppfd by the end of this week or early next if they can handle it with these monster lights I have in such a small space. Goal is about 800 if possible or as high as they can go. I am running a CO2 bag just about 6” above them.

I did increase feed time to about 1min 20secs because I did not feel I was getting enough runoff anymore. I want to make sure those pots dont get salty!

I plan on not touching anything in the garden today and just letting it do it’s own thing and hope I can actually keep my hands off. I feel they are a bit stressed and droopy from my messing with them everyday.

River:
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Clara + a couple flower sites:
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Garden shots:
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AmokNewb

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Day 38: So OMFG these plants grew over 3 inches from yesterday afternoon to this morning. Talk about stretch. And, this kush was one of the smaller strains they had. I put my scrog net up 2 days ago at a height I didn’t think they would reach until the end of the week. But they are already starting to surpass the net. If they are stretching like this my nutrient mix I’m making today I will have to add a tad bit more nitrogen to it to support the growth. I also had to raise my lights as far as I could. If they get any taller I might have to redo my tent to uncluttered the top in order to get my lights up another foot. Not a bad problem to have I guess.

River still is not in full on flower mode but getting closer and closer it looks like. She is going to be about two weeks behind Clara at this point.

That being said today is reservoir cleaning and disinfecting day, my least favorite garden chore. I will probably make 12 gallons today. But I will say that now that I know how often and when to add H2O2 to the reservoir I can go a week or two without any ick in it.

So to recap today is just maintenance with nutrients and reservoir and maybe raising my second net. Autopilot for the rest.

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Day 39: Ok so… This stretch has got me a bit worried as I am quickly running out of space. I mean it isn’t a bad problem to be in, but, I also don’t want to burn the tips of my plants either. I think my plants have been stretching for at least 2 weeks I am hoping they are done in a week at the very least.

It also is starting to make no sense in trying to get individual plant pictures any more as it just looks like on big jungle in there anyway.

I was able to manage to keep my hands off the plants for the most part yesterday and this morning. It seems this stage is going to be mostly on auto and adjusting my reservoir PH when needed. This morning it was a bit low so I raised back up to 5.9.

But overall I’m pretty happy with the results so far, being we are only half way through week one of flower.

A quick question I do have is considering these are autos, should I still defoliate this canopy a lot more? Seems really dense to me. It is really hard to also get to the back of the tent to do any pruning or maintenance. Cheers!

Garden Day 39:
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AmokNewb

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Got my first shipment of grove bags today. The next with a bunch of smaller sizes to use as gifts for friends is coming tomorrow. But so far first site and feel they seem really legit. They have a soft touch feel to them and feel well done. Unfortunately I have several weeks to go before I can actually put them to the test. 🥸🤓
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lvstealth

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Segal's law is an adage that states:

A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.

Same goes for pH meters, lol

It is due to how they are made and what they actually do.

a pH meter has a voltmeter stuck on a pH testing stick and an electrode that has a non variable fixed measure point. The probe is usually glass, and the reference is usually a silver–silver chloride electrode, although a mercury–mercurous chloride electrode is sometimes used.

When the two electrodes are immersed in a solution, they act as a battery.

The glass electrode develops an electric charge and the voltmeter measures the difference between them.

So, any material differences, like tolerances of condutive probes, or thickness, or ... So many things!

So the differences are what you should expect.

The plus and minus variance is greater with cheaper materials, and greater as it is over or under the fixed probe measurement
 
AmokNewb

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Segal's law is an adage that states:

A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.

Same goes for pH meters, lol

It is due to how they are made and what they actually do.

a pH meter has a voltmeter stuck on a pH testing stick and an electrode that has a non variable fixed measure point. The probe is usually glass, and the reference is usually a silver–silver chloride electrode, although a mercury–mercurous chloride electrode is sometimes used.

When the two electrodes are immersed in a solution, they act as a battery.

The glass electrode develops an electric charge and the voltmeter measures the difference between them.

So, any material differences, like tolerances of condutive probes, or thickness, or ... So many things!

So the differences are what you should expect.

The plus and minus variance is greater with cheaper materials, and greater as it is over or under the fixed probe measurement
Wow! Unexpected and a very awesome explanation thank you!. All of these things I would not have thought to be variables in the units themselves. Funny enough both calibrate the same but I find my plants look a lot better when I use the cheap PH meter over my Milwaukee.
 
AmokNewb

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Day 40: Well this morning when I went to check on the garden just with the 4 hours of dark and maybe an hour before lights off when I last checked the plants they had on average about an inch more growth. River is stretching the most and really showing her Sativa side with a good 2+ inches on certain branches. I had to tuck her leaves and LST a few flower sites down a bit AGAIN. I forgot to take pictures before I did that oops.

Last night I also did a bit more defoliation from the bottom up. I started getting any new growth off from below the canopy and tried to work my way up each flower site. It must have been a good 5-10% off each plant again. Of course you can’t even tell from the pictures, but, the airflow is much better now.

Checked the PH of my reservoir this morning. It was sitting at 6.09 so I left it to drift up to 6.2ish before I PH down it. I did add 3ml per gallon of H2O2 to keep it sterile.

Basically another day on the books and looking to be about a month or so left of flowering on Clara at the very least. River is another story (or Song) lol 🤓reference. Cheers all and happy farming!

River:
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Clara:
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Some flower sites:
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Garden shots:
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AmokNewb

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Day 41: Nothing new to report really. Found some rust colored spots on a few leaves. I removed them and raised the light as far as I could. I think it is mostly light burn maybe a bit calmag issue. I did have to pull the reservoir and disinfect it. I found some black ick in the bottom. Making early flower nutrients now about 12 gallons worth. And we will see how it goes from there.
River:

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Clara:
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AmokNewb

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Day 42: Last day of week 6 since sprout and last day for the first week of flower. Well River is still stretching and now I am truly worried she is going to be to big for my setup. She looks like she should just start bursting forth flower any day but she hasn’t packed on any weight yet. Clara is chugging along doing her thing as well. She needs more flower nutrients but River doesn’t so it’s sort of a compromise between the two. For these being supposedly the exact same strain from the same pack, there is a wild difference between the two.

Solved my rusty leaves problem, they were definitely getting burnt by my 450w sf-4000 in the tiny 2.3x2.3. So far they all seem good at about 62% intensity.

Both plants are now getting fed early bloom nutrient recipe. I am hoping this will help nudge river into halting the stretch and flower more.

PH in the reservoir was at 5.97 so I left it alone. Other than that please let River stop stretching and flower more, please.

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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AmokNewb

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Try cutting the nitrogen a bit to help induce flowering.
Yup great suggestion! some research I did suggested that and I have been transisitioning to more of a bloom nutrient feeding over the last week. This last feeding I cut the nitrogen by about half and next feeding will be a bit more and more of a early to mid bloom nutrient recipe. Clara my one that is flowering is going to need them anyway. I sure hope it helps. River has been looking like she really wants to flower all week but can’t seem to stop stretching, which in turn makes me have to man handle her a bit and bend down the obscenely long branches. My next tent is going to be over 6’ tall!!!
 
ComfortablyNumb

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Yup great suggestion! some research I did suggested that and I have been transisitioning to more of a bloom nutrient feeding over the last week. This last feeding I cut the nitrogen by about half and next feeding will be a bit more and more of a early to mid bloom nutrient recipe. Clara my one that is flowering is going to need them anyway. I sure hope it helps. River has been looking like she really wants to flower all week but can’t seem to stop stretching, which in turn makes me have to man handle her a bit and bend down the obscenely long branches. My next tent is going to be over 6’ tall!!!
I'm designing a new 4x4 floor to ceiling. My Durbans like to really reach for the roof.
 
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I'm designing a new 4x4 floor to ceiling. My Durbans like to really reach for the roof.
Yeah I feel any elbow room is a good thing. Right now I cannot for the life of me get to the back of the tent to defoliate or do anything lol. But that extra vertical space would be so handy. I mean if this 2.3x2.3 was like 6.5feet tall it would be perfect for me. That being said I think I’m going to go 4x4 since my light can cover that pretty easily and as tall as I can get it to stil fit in the basement at about 7+ foot ceilings.
 
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Day 43: Welcome to the first day of the second week of flower. Well at least one is flowering nicely! 🤪

I am still not sure what to do about River, she doesn’t seem too light stressed being so much closer to the light than Clara. But Clara literally cannot handle anymore light with out burning up :( I did try and LST River again today as best as I could with what little room I have so we will see I guess.

Making some mid flower nutrient recipe today to top off the early bloom recipe that is already in the reservoir. I am really hoping the lack of nitrogen doesn’t hurt River but rather pushes her to actually stop stretching and flower up. Anyone have any concerns with this approach? Could I be hurting my potential yield?

Other than all that I think everything is going about as good as it can. Cheers!

River:
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Clara:
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Garden:
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