Aqua Man
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Yeah i made one alt account… Aqua man2 or something close to that. I forgot my password so i used that account for a few days when i came back from a break until it got reset on this one.I can tell you 2 things for sure,
1 - Aqua man and Moe.Red are 2 completely different weed nerds.
2 - One username is enough for me, no alts here. It's like women, one is plenty to handle, why would I want 2?
I just think it is funny how 2 different dudes in different countries who never met each other before this forum could end up doing virtually the same stuff, grow styles, book lernin' you know. We were both doing our own thing before we met here, they just happened to be the same stuff.
Careful mixing nutrients at high PH it can cause precipitation.Update-
Been super busy guys and will have time to catch up and digest all this great info this weekend.
I am a bit disappointed at this point as there seem to be some issues going on but just not sure what they might be and/or if there is even anything to be stressed about. Topside, to my untrained eye, everything looks fantastic. I've never had a plant frost up like this, could be a lot to do with genetics, but also could be that things are going very well. The roots look good although they are stained light brownish per recent photo, no slime whatsoever. Temps in the res holding steady at 67.4F. The ph has slowly drifted down since the res change on Wednesday, was 6.1 after res change, gradually going down to 4.9 by this morning. I thought my meter might be out of calibration so I calibrated it, no real improvement. For what it's worth, the meter is flashing that the ph probe needs maintenance. I gently cleaned it with a small brush and then re-calibrated with no change but I still get the maintenance code so it could just be my meter is not giving accurate readings.
I am going to keep an eye on things and when I get home from work tonight, if things keep drifting downward, my plan is to change out the res again and ph the water up to 8+ before I add any nutrients back in. I have watched the nutrients bring the initial ph down so perhaps I just need a bit more headroom in the ph to get me through to the finish line. I've got less than 4 weeks to go and the last week, if I am not mistaken, will be a nutrient free flush? My thoughts are that it may waste a bunch of nutes, but if I change things out more frequently maybe I can baby this girl to a decent harvest?
It may not be a good plan, but it's a plan A and a learning experience. I may need a plan B, C, D???
Nope, would not want my tote doing that. I feed what they eat , not what the bottle says.Update-
Been super busy guys and will have time to catch up and digest all this great info this weekend.
I am a bit disappointed at this point as there seem to be some issues going on but just not sure what they might be and/or if there is even anything to be stressed about. Topside, to my untrained eye, everything looks fantastic. I've never had a plant frost up like this, could be a lot to do with genetics, but also could be that things are going very well. The roots look good although they are stained light brownish per recent photo, no slime whatsoever. Temps in the res holding steady at 67.4F. The ph has slowly drifted down since the res change on Wednesday, was 6.1 after res change, gradually going down to 4.9 by this morning. I thought my meter might be out of calibration so I calibrated it, no real improvement. For what it's worth, the meter is flashing that the ph probe needs maintenance. I gently cleaned it with a small brush and then re-calibrated with no change but I still get the maintenance code so it could just be my meter is not giving accurate readings.
I am going to keep an eye on things and when I get home from work tonight, if things keep drifting downward, my plan is to change out the res again and ph the water up to 8+ before I add any nutrients back in. I have watched the nutrients bring the initial ph down so perhaps I just need a bit more headroom in the ph to get me through to the finish line. I've got less than 4 weeks to go and the last week, if I am not mistaken, will be a nutrient free flush? My thoughts are that it may waste a bunch of nutes, but if I change things out more frequently maybe I can baby this girl to a decent harvest?
It may not be a good plan, but it's a plan A and a learning experience. I may need a plan B, C, D???
Yes, 8 is too high. PH after nurtes are added and mixed well.Thanks for the heads up AquaMan, would you consider 8.0 high or too high even? Anything that can be done to reduce or eliminate the possibility of precipitation? I think my RO water is sitting at about 7 so it wouldn't be a huge tick up, or maybe it would be?
AN says to PH first, then add nutes. Perhaps I need to clarify with them. I know the AN line is different than the norm. Not doing anything at least until tomorrow. As far as a buffer, do you suggest using something like silica? I have a silica product called Tree Trunk that I could use if ya'all think it might help.Yes, 8 is too high. PH after nurtes are added and mixed well.
I did find this to be true and initially the ph settled right at 5.8. However, as time went on, it began to drift down and then went down fairly quickly before seeming to stabilize now at 4.8. We'll see what happens when I get home tonight.With RO you have no buffering, so the resultant PH from adding just nutes should be in the correct range. The nutes will buffer a little. But adding a buffer to get you solid at 5.7 - 5.8 with a little drift is the optimum set point that I have found.
Damn I keep forgetting AN.AN says to PH first, then add nutes. Perhaps I need to clarify with them. I know the AN line is different than the norm. Not doing anything at least until tomorrow. As far as a buffer, do you suggest using something like silica? I have a silica product called Tree Trunk that I could use if ya'all think it might help.
I did find this to be true and initially the ph settled right at 5.8. However, as time went on, it began to drift down and then went down fairly quickly before seeming to stabilize now at 4.8. We'll see what happens when I get home tonight.
So far this morning ph is holding steady at 4.8 but if it continues to drop when I get home from work this evening, I will evaluate my next steps and any advice ya'all give.
This is great advice and same as my gut feeling on this. I'm learning guysIf the plants look good then leave it. If the ph gets outa sorts just do a res change.
Now that you mention it, it may be a froggy sort of day! Would be interested in treating with the enzymes, will do a search on that later this eve see what that is all about.If you are feeling froggy and want to give your roots a spa day, you can treat them with enzymes while the system is empty. Then just fill it back up and whatever enzymes are left over will be part of the water in the system continuing to protect roots. I would expect them to become immediately white and PH fluctuations due to dead root material to be minimized within a day or so.
If I recall correctly, this PH issue started after you added more water to the system. Here is what I am thinking, but I could be wrong.
The bottom of the net pots are constantly sprayed with bursting bubbles. This would seem to say that the areas that are not in direct contact with roots (hydroton, plastic) will become heavy with nutes / salts. If you then wash those areas off and collect all the salts in your system water by raising the water level, things might go a little haywire. Again, with AN nutes, I do not have experience so I'm guessing. But dumping that into the system probably knocked it out of balance.
I used to run i think 1-2ml a gal of hygrozyme. But only added at tye time of res change. Enzymes continue to work once added so its only something you add with a res change. I found i could run a lower ppm because of how available they made the nutrientsGot everything changed out, washed the roots, filled the plant site with water and 8 ml enzymes and let it soak for about 5 minutes, drained and refilled.
Before and after of the monitor readings.
Hmmm are you using an air pump?I watched the PH last night rise to about 6.3 and then it dropped little by little over night, sitting at 5.4 atm and been holding steady at least since about 2 am when I got up to check at lights on. I topped off with RO water and nothing really changed, added about 100 oz of water.
As far as I can tell, things have stabilized with the ph drops so I'm super happy about that. I get to go hang out with some Cannabis pioneers from my state today so we will see where we are when I get home from that.
Where is the air pump located?Yes, with an air stone in the res and one at the plant site.
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