First Time 12 Site Ebb And Grogro

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

@Wisher619
[/QUOTE] you will probably end up with...3-4x of this
View attachment 597050 which is from a single 400w hps....6zips....pretty much all tops...no larf...completely solid
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400 watt hps 6 zips on one plant? You think if I keep taking your advice (which I'm going to like most always) that I'm looking at getting 3-4x's this 6 zips? Man I hope so if I only get 6 zips a plant I'm not going to lie bro, I'm going to cry like a little bitch.

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

250-300g per would make me nice and happy. Or 1200-1800 total. Am I overshooting this?

Wisher619 · May 5, 2016

hahahah no bro....from 1 light.....I measure gram oer square foot or say how much per light wattage.....I ran 6 plants under a single 400w.....so I go by how much you can fit under 1 light...per wattage....so I cant remember what you are running but you can easily get 6zip per one of your lights.....from what I can remember...you are running 600's??or are those 400's...in any case you should easily get 3x my grow

Wisher619 · May 5, 2016

sorry bro I get what you are saying......to me plant count dosnt matter....only square footage and light intensity.....so you could run 10 plants per light (SOG)or one plant all scrogged out.....what matters is the square footage of plant material and light spread and intensity.....

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
hahahah no bro....from 1 light.....I measure gram oer square foot or say how much per light wattage.....I ran 6 plants under a single 400w.....so I go by how much you can fit under 1 light...per wattage....so I cant remember what you are running but you can easily get 6zip per ine of your lights.....from what I can remember...you are running 600's??or are those 400's...in any case you should easily get 3x my grow

1200-1800gram on this cycle is my ultimate goal Lol. I am on 600 mh bulbs and brings me to another question aside from is the 12-1800 practical but do I switch to HPs bulb at the flip? Or do the hps after flowers show?

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
sorry bro I get what you are saying......to me plant count dosnt matter....only square footage and light intensity.....so you could run 10 plants per light (SOG)or one plant all scrogged out.....what matters is the square footage of plant material and light spread and intensity.....

No apologies you're good makes sense but from my lack of experience I am more like had a goal set up and don't know whether to expect making it there because I am shooting the moon or this is a doable thing here.

Wisher619 · May 5, 2016

I would run MH for at least a week or 2 into the flip....
you can rough guesstimate how much you will net.....I would say .5-.75 gpw which would be something like 9-1300 g....which should put you close to 3#

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
I would run MH for at least a week or 2 into the flip....
you can rough guesstimate how much you will net.....I would say .5-.75 gpw which would be something like 9-1300 g....which should put you close to 3#

I can live with this. Lol you don't think do another week of veg to push those numbers up there.....lol dumb question?

Wisher619 · May 5, 2016

I know alot of people that claim alot of shit like oh "1-2gpw".....complete fabrication....with your standard HID
now I have seen 1.5gpw with COB led's.....

Wisher619 · May 5, 2016

well I guess you could...but really....trust us when we say....they will grow.....and because you havnt run this strain before....you never know how much she will stretch....she could be up in the lights bro....like fuckin maxing shit out....I've seen it before....flip at 12" and ends up being 4' effing disaster

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
I would run MH for at least a week or 2 into the flip....
you can rough guesstimate how much you will net.....I

Wisher619 said:
well I guess you could...but really....trust us when we say....they will grow.....and because you havnt run this strain before....you never know how much she will stretch....she could be up in the lights bro....like fuckin maxing shit out....I've seen it before....flip at 12" and ends up being 4' effing disaster

Lol that shit would suck! OK things for me to stew on. I will throw it around and think about doing the flip here soon. Taking advantage of some meds and my birthday present (some new bong) nothing fancy shmancy but its the only gift I got so I am very thankful. Then passing out while its easy for me to sleep without pain. Or sleep through the pain rather. Spinal injections are coming up in a week or so FML. :/ goodnight forum friends and family thanks for the support propps and love. Thanks for helping me out big time FAM! You guys are like as awesome as the dopest grow ever growed.

Theassbandit · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
I think the price for autos needs to go way down.....like $1.00 a seed....if that were the case I would sea of green femmed auto's....pack um in 5" square pots...completely max the space...not topping....just straight go go go go go!!!

Midwestjay said:
I can't wait to get moved out this apartment. It limits me so much. Can't wait to set up a decent grow again.

Yeah my woman and I are totally split, she wants to come in and try to delicate my grow. Long story short I ordered seeds of Pandora's Box (tga genectics) and some Jack herer. So when I find a new place I have seeds to get poping right away

http://www.seedsman.com/en/pandora-s-box-regular-seeds

Sounds like goodness but we shall see(d) lol

Theassbandit · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
hahahah no bro....from 1 light.....I measure gram oer square foot or say how much per light wattage.....I ran 6 plants under a single 400w.....so I go by how much you can fit under 1 light...per wattage....so I cant remember what you are running but you can easily get 6zip per one of your lights.....from what I can remember...you are running 600's??or are those 400's...in any case you should easily get 3x my grow

I got 7 zips from my 600 watt hps on a light rail. However it was my first grow the plant had vegged 4 months, and it kept running out of nitro because I didn't want to over feed. For the most part it liked off fox farm soil and composted its whole life. Flowered in a 15 gal pot.

Here is the dirty bitches roots at the bottom:)

Theassbandit · May 5, 2016

wasfromks said:
1200-1800gram on this cycle is my ultimate goal Lol. I am on 600 mh bulbs and brings me to another question aside from is the 12-1800 practical but do I switch to HPs bulb at the flip? Or do the hps after flowers show?

I veg or stretch metal hal, hps at bud sites. This is all my opinion. I run a veg and flower rooms so I don't have the option of constantly switching light arpund, but if it was my car I would

chronic68 · May 5, 2016

wasfromks said:
Like shouldn't I let more growth in before flipping. Like if I flip tomorrow I just topped like couple days ago.

I'd flip em but don't get peer pressured into it. do you go with your gut ....p.s. You veg nutes should be fine for first 2 weeks if you flip if I'm not mistaken the plants still need nitrogen during the stretch

Wisher619 · May 5, 2016

chronic68 said:
I'd flip em but don't get peer pressured into it. do you go with your gut ....p.s. You veg nutes should be fine for first 2 weeks if you flip if I'm not mistaken the plants still need nitrogen during the stretch

yeah man....not pressuring...just giving sound advice as this is his first indoor hydro grow......people all do things differently
When I run beans....I will usually flower a clone out to see how much it stretches....I then know what I can and cant do and how the plants likes to grow judging by the structure.....
he has no idea how they are gonna flower...
he could however keep filling the net and then flip and use a second net for support
@Theassbandit 7 zips on a 600?
that dosnt seem to effecient....not talking shit....just saying there is alot of room for improvement there......
from a 600 you should be able to net between 11-16zips roughly between 300-450 grams ......something to shoot for
more importantly
how many grams per sqft.....I work with a space of 11.5 sqft
I net 165g which is 14grams per square foot...under a 400.....not very effecient in my view....so for my space a 600 should net 26g per sqft which is close to the good and trusty 1zip per sqft......
@chronic68 I would never give advice that wouldnt benefit that whom I am giving said advice to......I only want people to succeed in whatever endevour they pursue.....and I would also never advise any to do anything I wouldnt do or haven't done myself....
in today's society we question people's motives and whether we trust their judgment or not.....How I was raised....we would take people at their word....because integrity meant something....now because the people that lead us have no integrity...neither does society....

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
yeah man....not pressuring...just giving sound advice as this is his first indoor hydro grow......people all do things differently
When I run beans....I will usually flower a clone out to see how much it stretches....I then know what I can and cant do and how the plants likes to grow judging by the structure.....
he has no idea how they are gonna flower...
he could however keep filling the net and then flip and use a second net for support
@Theassbandit 7 zips on a 600?
that dosnt seem to effecient....not talking shit....just saying there is alot of room for improvement there......
from a 600 you should be able to net between 11-16zips roughly between 300-450 grams ......something to shoot for
more importantly
how many grams per sqft.....I work with a space of 11.5 sqft
I net 165g which is 14grams per square foot...under a 400.....not very effecient in my view....so for my space a 600 should net 26g per sqft which is close to the good and trusty 1zip per sqft......
@chronic68 I would never give advice that wouldnt benefit that whom I am giving said advice to......I only want people to succeed in whatever endevour they pursue.....and I would also never advise any to do anything I wouldnt do or haven't done myself....
in today's society we question people's motives and whether we trust their judgment or not.....How I was raised....we would take people at their word....because integrity meant something....now because the people that lead us have no integrity...neither does society....

You have my trust bromigo you haven't given me bad advice yet. I checked the room and these ladies are going into flip today. They will probably fill up the screen in the next couple weeks like you said. They filled up a lot and I couldn't pull off two more weeks of veg without having issues in the long run I'm afraid. So 12/12 is starting today being day 1. Hope everyone is excited as I am to see what happens.

wasfromks · May 5, 2016

Theassbandit said:
I got 7 zips from my 600 watt hps on a light rail. However it was my first grow the plant had vegged 4 months, and it kept running out of nitro because I didn't want to over feed. For the most part it liked off fox farm soil and composted its whole life. Flowered in a 15 gal pot.

Here is the dirty bitches roots at the bottom:)

Yeah I think I have more root structure than that in my 2gal pots. I hope I don't sound rude because those aren't my intentions. But 15gal bucket and a 600 HPS I would be upset with 7 zips. I am trying to get over 7 zips per lady on my set up and I don't have a 15gallon bucket. I'm only on like 2gallons with this system. I would like to go up to 5 and may consider just kitting one together from what I already have and save a ton of cash. But I will use this for a few cycles just to gain experience and knowledge before I do anything else.

Midwestjay · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
I think the price for autos needs to go way down.....like $1.00 a seed....if that were the case I would sea of green femmed auto's....pack um in 5" square pots...completely max the space...not topping....just straight go go go go go!!!

Yea that would be nice.

Wisher619 said:
sorry bro I get what you are saying......to me plant count dosnt matter....only square footage and light intensity.....so you could run 10 plants per light (SOG)or one plant all scrogged out.....what matters is the square footage of plant material and light spread and intensity.....

Exactly, I try to explain this to people.

Midwestjay · May 5, 2016

Wisher619 said:
I would run MH for at least a week or 2 into the flip....
you can rough guesstimate how much you will net.....I would say .5-.75 gpw which would be something like 9-1300 g....which should put you close to 3#

That .75 is usually what I sat at in my 4x4 tent with a 600w when it was full.

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