First Time Grower - Help!!!

[scott.0691]

This site has more information than I have been able to find anywhere....Thanks
Running a 2x4x5 Matrix Tent with a 250w HPS...exhaust to outside...plenty of fresh air going in..3 plants at 13 days old in Coco....all I can say is WOW...too much fun watching them grow...growing 3 Grapefruit 'matic feminized autos....on an 18/6 schedule....Live in the country with well water that is high in Alkaline..currently feeding 1/2 tsp FloraMicro (added first)...1/2 tsp FloraGro...1/8 tsp FloraBloom...and finally 1 tsp CaliMagic...in a gallon of waters adjusting the pH to 6.0...watering till runoff begins....Just lowered the light to 1 foot above the plants...and watering plain pH'd water if the Coco feels dry up to my first knuckle...yesterday I noticed possible signs of N Toxicity...but not entirely sure...Am I doing something wrong or is it the strain....Your opinions matter.....Thanks

The first pic...is the one I am more worried about more than anything....followed by the other two..

 

[Junk]

Can you take a pic with normal lighting? The color is hard to make out.

If you are worried about the leaf wrinkling, it's common for new plants from seed.

Things that can make it worse are temp swings (or bad temps) and over watering.

I''ve never done coco maybe someone will chime in who has. But with soil, you don't do the knuckle test. You pick up the pot and you will feel if it needs water. It will be noticeably light. If you do the knuckle test in soil, you will constantly be over watering.

Some coco guys may give you some pointers but you're ok. Nothing unusual or dire.

 

[scott.0691]

Can you take a pic with normal lighting? The color is hard to make out.

If you are worried about the leaf wrinkling, it's common for new plants from seed.

Things that can make it worse are temp swings (or bad temps) and over watering.

I''ve never done coco maybe someone will chime in who has. But with soil, you don't do the knuckle test. You pick up the pot and you will feel if it needs water. It will be noticeably light. If you do the knuckle test in soil, you will constantly be over watering.

Some coco guys may give you some pointers but you're ok. Nothing unusual or dire.

Thank You...That is the BEST advise I have heard...I have included some pics with normal lighting....I was worried about the plant in the first pic...noticed some very...very small "yellow spots" and a small yellow streak...Yesterday I gave the straight pH'd water (6.0) and will wait a few days until I water them again...Thanks Again!!

 

[Junk]

Thank You...That is the BEST advise I have heard...I have included some pics with normal lighting....I was worried about the plant in the first pic...noticed some very...very small "yellow spots" and a small yellow streak...Yesterday I gave the straight pH'd water (6.0) and will wait a few days until I water them again...Thanks Again!!

That's better...

Imo, the medium looks soaked. If it was soil, it would be more than a few days before I watered it. Those plants are using almost no water right now and it looks like you are giving it a half gallon every few days.

Wait for a coco person help you. Coco is it's own animal. The bottom pic isn't right, but again, doesn't appear drastic.

 

[scott.0691]

Thank you....I will wait to water till air pot is light.....Hopefully a Coco grower will chime in...and offer some more insight....Thank you...for your Time...and Knowledge

 

[Junk]

Thank you....I will wait to water till air pot is light.

Research it in the meantime. I have a vague recollection of coco needing to be watered more frequently...but if so, it would need to be less water when u do it.

The point I was trying to make is that it looks pretty wet. I think it will need more than a few days.

If u fill another fabric pot with coco (dry) u can feel what the coco weighs, a baseline. Then when u pick up the pots with plants in them u can gauge how much water is in them. But I'm sure u can search here and find out the water schedule it wants and adjust.

 

[Dunge]

I'm not an avid coco grower but...
Always feed when watering.
Water often. Many put a pump on a timer and water many times per day.
They say you can't over water coco.

 

[Junk]

I'm not an avid coco grower but...
Always feed when watering.
Water often. Many put a pump on a timer and water many times per day.
They say you can't over water coco.

And that's why I said ask a coco grower lol

 

[DemonTrich]

Coco
5.8ph
keep moist, never let dry out like soil/soiless mediums.

 

[scott.0691]

Thank You...Hopefully tomorrow will show some improvement since I flushed yesterday with pH'd H2O...This is my first grow...and I have studied and read multiple articles on Hydro Growing....That being said...2 days after I planted I traveled to the Midwest for a Birthday..Left our babies in the hands of my wife...I asked her and begged her to please read...on how to test pH in the nute water before feeding...Well just found out she wasn't testing it properly and added too much pH Up/Down...So I believe they are in a bit of a funk....Tomorrow I will feed them a little at a time...hopefully they will turn around...

 

[Junk]

Well just found out she wasn't testing it properly and added too much pH Up/Down...So I believe they are in a bit of a funk....

That could do it. But overall, you're good.

 

[Dunge]

That could do it. But overall, you're good.

And I will add the obvious that criticizing an assistant is questionable, but if your wife...
I think she improved your garden and understanding of it. You might want to think that too.

 

[MW7945]

Back off on the nutes. They're still too little for how much you're giving them. Don't flush. It just throws things off even more. Would recommend 1mL each of Bloom, Micro, Grow if that's the route you're going. Use this for a little while until they grow some more.

As mentioned, keep coco moist. Can water multiple times a day if you want. That being said, with coco especially, always start in smaller pots and re-pot into something bigger when necessary. They will do just fine in a small pot for the first few weeks. They'll take off like a rocket after that.

First picture was my plants on the 19th, so 6 days ago. 2nd picture was the 20th when I re-potted. 3rd picture I just took day.

 

[Enforcer]

With plants that small in a big pot, you don't want to flood them with water yet. Use a measurement syringe to water about 100ml of your solution twice a day. Water about 3 inches from the stem all the way around the plant. You will not get runoff yet, and keep the medium around the plant moist. You want to encourage root development, then start to water/feed with more volume. You really can't overwater coco, but you can stunt growth by giving too much water too soon. Once they start growing more vigorously, give them all the water you want. Keep your EC low, around .6 - 1.0 and gradually raise it to around 2.0 over the next few weeks. Alway ph to between 5.5 - 6.2. Good luck.

 

[scott.0691]

I only wish I had a third of the knowledge....but at 57yr old..its never too late to grow go bud..My three seeds sprouted three weeks ago yesterday..I have done somethings differently from when I first planted them...First I bought a pH pen an Arpen PH60...adjusting pH to 5.8 and watering, should have bought one when I first started....In addition I was tired of the bottom of the air pots sitting in the trays so I constructed a platform out of 2x4's and animal cage wire...I took the trays and built the platform around them and placed a 1x1 piece of wood under the tray so that any runoff flows to one end and cutting a square out I can place the wet vac hose through the wire to suck up the water....now the plants are getting air from top to bottom....the one plant has 1 set of leaves that have "spiraled" and have very small lines on them..I was going to cut them off...but after researching I have decided not too...as these leaves are the "toilet" for the plant...it is a bit smaller than the other two...but no two plants will grow alike...any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated....my wife will be picking out the next set of seeds as I have learned so much..my next grow will be great...

 

[scott.0691]

I am going to our local nursery tomorrow and get what I need to LST them....things are getting interesting to say the least...well after looking at what I posted two of the pics I didn't rotate....the odd looking one and the tray I built..

 

[Enforcer]

Nice work in your plant base. Simple and effective, I might build one too.

 

[scott.0691]

Thank You...Way too easy to build...I laid out the trays and built around them...nice and snug..and I can replace the trays if needed...the wire is galvanized so it will not rust...in addition I used 1/2 inch wire staples to secure the wire to the 2x4's...I am going to upload the pics I didn't rotate..haha..I do not know what caused the one set of leaves to spiral...but it has given the plant a bit of personality

 

[Enforcer]

I think I remember reading that the drawstring effect of leaves is related to ph fluctuations. I could be wrong though.

 

[EventHorizan]

Hmmmm......