Not in this tent, those lights are in the fog tent.I knew this was coming. +1 to the Raging Kush II.
You'll want to control the streach there as well. Grew a gmo X clementine cross in my defoliation trial thread and was by far the most streach ive grown.I still plan to try gmo at some point too. Logic told me it’s the kind of plant you really want to grow. Once.
yeah good call, when I grow the gmo I'll hit you guys up for advice. I know Mosh loves it even if it is a PITA to grow, so I just want to try my hand at some point. What's life without little challenges?You'll want to control the streach there as well. Grew a gmo X clementine cross in my defoliation trial thread and was by far the most streach ive grown.
Welcome back.Moe, what would be interesting to pre-pollute these agar-dishes with your household generic bacteria, like with dust from floor or MO from your hands (things that may get in touch with the plants or equipment) and then once visibly set in motion to use these MO grower products to see if they are able to thwart off the spread of the infection. Because they should be able to do so, at least, the way I'm thinking is that typically bacteria are already almost everywhere. And then you have an expensive growproduct with not-that-much spores containing, so that leaves the question open if that lifeform is actually efficiently able to compete vs what's already there.
Bit to much wind maybe low humidity or a recent change in humidity I dont think its nutesWhat's your read on this one?
Yea welcome back sir was wondering where ya wentMoe, what would be interesting to pre-pollute these agar-dishes with your household generic bacteria, like with dust from floor or MO from your hands (things that may get in touch with the plants or equipment) and then once visibly set in motion to use these MO grower products to see if they are able to thwart off the spread of the infection. Because they should be able to do so, at least, the way I'm thinking is that typically bacteria are already almost everywhere. And then you have an expensive growproduct with not-that-much spores containing, so that leaves the question open if that lifeform is actually efficiently able to compete vs what's already there.
I can cut down on wind.Bit to much wind maybe low humidity or a recent change in humidity I dont think its nutes
Thanks Moe.Welcome back.
That would be interesting. The issue will be identifying what’s what.
Maybe contaminate one side and once a good colony is there add the bottle to the other side and watch what happens in the middle.
Most of the bacillus strains are gram positive so if the contaminate was negative that would make it easier to see who wins the war.
Could also do this in an aqueous dextrose solution better simulating our grows
Hey Aqua ty. Well, sometimes I just do a radical cut away from anything online/virtual, in a strong hour. So now I'm back with sports (weightlifting - was actually deep into bodyshaping, then came flu, and all the clubs went closed) and I discovered a new hobby now for me - cooking (!) yes haha. That was a good choice which I feel really well bodily and mentally. One can be so creative with cooking, it doesn't always have a "good end" in the way of being ultra-delicious, but I'm an old-army type dude that eats what is served (if it's not poisonous) but right now I don't need recipes anymore, I just use my taste and number of spices to create the taste that I like (I like sharpiness of chilli or much raw pepper longcooked for example).Yea welcome back sir was wondering where ya went
I’m glad I’m not the only geek around that appreciates dumb stuff like this.Thanks Moe.
Yes, exactly. So you have place, and also time, that would separate the pollutants from the growproduct. And a repeat, to see if said colonies look alike. It's interesting to see how the Great White colonies look so different from the Orca product. And thank you for doing these tests to begin with.
Whoa. Ease up on the defoliation.Not in this tent, those lights are in the fog tent.
I'll use external add on led bars for this. And push spectrum as far red as my lights will allow. I'll plan to top them multiple times and spread them out with a net. If they stretch thru the net and form colas there, that's a win. I'll probably do 16 tops on each plant. Something like this
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But spread to take up 3x3 of the 4x4 space.
My bet would be that there's also MO there, now I'm no expert on these matters but I do recall a number of studies and reviews, also on sterile hydro setups, that wrote something that plant roots release quite a number of secretes/excretes which actually atttract, and nurture, tendencially positive bacteria or fungus, for plant grow. It's really hard to see how one could have such a large lifeform like a plant that releases so much energy, plus all the dead tissue/cells which break away, and not have micros feeding off that. Even in "sterile" rez, there's bacteria known that are tolerant of H2O2, extremophiles that can actually feed off stuff that would kill others etc. So these supressants are never fail-proof that's where the counter MO thingy is promising. In theory, or studies, at least.So what’s in his res?
The plant spends as much as 12% of its sugars as exudates to feed biologics. If there was not a benefit Mother Nature would have evolved out of wasting energy a long time ago.My bet would be that there's also MO there, now I'm no expert on these matters but I do recall a number of studies and reviews, also on sterile hydro setups, that wrote something that plant roots release quite a number of secretes/excretes which actually atttract, and nurture, tendencially positive bacteria or fungus, for plant grow. It's really hard to see how one could have such a large lifeform like a plant that releases so much energy, plus all the dead tissue/cells which break away, and not have micros feeding off that. Even in "sterile" rez, there's bacteria known that are tolerant of H2O2, extremophiles that can actually feed off stuff that would kill others etc. So these supressants are never fail-proof that's where the counter MO thingy is promising. In theory, or studies, at least.
Same thing with the whole plant above the surface. A huge benefit would actually be to spread MO onto fruits, or say, "the endprodcut" to prevent botrytis and such. It has become such a huge problem over here, with some of these toxins being ultra-carcinogenic.
In Nature the Plant releases those exudates primarily because nutrient cycling microorganisms need that fuel to convert nutrients into bioavailable forms the plants can uptake and use.The plant spends as much as 12% of its sugars as exudates to feed biologics. If there was not a benefit Mother Nature would have evolved out of wasting energy a long time ago.
But folks still get pythium and other bad juju. I haven’t looked into this but my assumption was the sugar exudates call in bad bacteria too.
Dude I love having you around. You come at it from the other direction, lay down some knowledge, and always make me think. Easy to get tunnel vision, you are like the Anti-Elon tunnel buster.In Nature the Plant releases those exudates primarily because nutrient cycling microorganisms need that fuel to convert nutrients into bioavailable forms the plants can uptake and use.
In a hydroponic environment, those exudates don't have the same list of benefits, though they can still attract and nurture some root protectant fungi and bacteria. But as you point out, it also calls over the bad bacteria and fungus too.
They are also abundant in the airWhat about other bacteria like those found in living aqueous environments like Nitrosomonas, Nitrosococcus, Nitrobacter, Nitrospina, Nitrospira and Nitrococcus?
Would they offer any benefits?
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