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High All, I am a new member here but long time reader. I am a caregiver here in CO and have been experiencing some bug problems. I have been using Met-52 and Mycotrol to some degree of success but recently I have switched to the OG Biowar and my plants unfortunately have taken a turn for the worse. I was under the impression that it has Bti, Met-52, Mycotrol, and Spinosad in the foliar pack, however I don't see these in the ingredient list. PLEASE DONT think I came to hate on anything or anybody I'm sure I'm missing something. I googled the ingredients and didn't see anything that corresponded with being a form of the aforementioned ingredients. Why would they not be listed? It seems like it would be a really good selling point to list these. Like I said I'm sure I am missing something, not hating on anything, just came here to get help and information. I have seen a lot of success stories using Caps packs so I bought a kilo of each. Thanks Cap for that awesome effin discount. Now to address the bugs! What I thought to be root aphids appears to be more of a bulb mite for there are no tailpipes. I can get a glimpse of them in my 30x microscope and I recently bought a USB 200x microscope but I had to buy a conversion cable, that I am still waiting on, to hook it up to my tablet and take pics. I will get those up as soon as it arrives and I figure out how to post them lol. I read the bulb mite thread and well I am a little worried that this is what I have. This would make sense as to why the foliar pack isn't working, but as I said before I was having some degree of success using Mycotrol and Met-52. Can I use a double dose of full strength Foliar Pack? I completely shut down one grow site and I am trying to win this battle at my other location. I found a good source for Hypoasis Aculeifer mites and supposedly they will take care of both root aphids and bulb mites. Is the Foliar pack compatible with these beneficial mites? When I shut down location 1 I took out the Ebb n Gros that I was using and I am going to go with coco and perlite after I clean the whole grow with the cleaning methods used in the bulb mite thread. I am using roots soil and coco/perlite at location 2. I had been running aeroflows at location 2 but I pulled them out and put them in the soil and coco strictly as an experiment to try and conquer this plague while also testing various methods of control. I am going to order beneficial mites as soon as I can find out if they are compatible with these other biological controls. Also could I mix my own concoction of spinosad, Bti, Mycotrol, and Met-52 or are these not compatible in their concentrated form? I wont use any chemicals on my grow so don't bother chiming in with those recommendations. I grow medicine for ill patients. No haters please as that is not my intentions here but any constructive criticism is welcome for educational purposes as we are all here to learn. Im not knockin Caps products! I can see the fungi growing on top of my medium so I know his stuff is awesome. Thanks in advance for your help and info. SJ
Thank You I really get lots of great info here and hope to contribute as well!welcome to the farm :D Bump for your question..
Thanks Cap for chiming in! Yeah that's the thread I was referring to on my original post. I hope you don't think I was knockin your products. They are remarkable products and I still see results even with the bug problems. My microscope cable came today so I should be able to get pics up soon!Here you go brother. Quick search and I found this for you: https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/bulb-mites-wtf.59532/
They are some kind of mite not a root aphid. They don't have any tail pipes. I am going to try out my new scope tomorrow and I will get some pics up. Putting out some taters tonight to try and attract them for a better view. If you are referring to an Imidicloprid product it is not effective against these. When I scrapped my last grow in my ebb n gro pots I was so pissed off I purchased some merit75 just to murder as many of those little bastards I could. I was tossin them anyway because they were beyond repair. I pulled up a few buckets to see how many bugs I killed and they were just crawling around as if it had no effect. I pulled out the handheld microscope to take a look at them and they have eight legs with no tailpipes. I never noticed the two front legs before they are hard to see and they use them mainly to turn direction. They also move really slow unlike an aphid. I keep yellow monitoring cards out all the time and as big as the colony was I would think that I would have seen a flyer which I never did. If anyone has any suggestions on any type of chemical or organic pesticide to try out I will give it a shot with the test plants I have at my other location and post results. I don't expect them to make it anyway so I might as well make an experiment out of it to find out what might be effective on these bugs for the sake of research.Hey what's up brotha! I have dealt with aphids for a min now and couldn't figure out where they were coming from. These little shits just wouldn't go away. You need to knock them the hell out right away. By you hitting them little here and little there is only pissing them off. Caps bennies do work I use it full strength with great success, but sounds like they have you by the balls right now. A trip to home depot and 20 bucks will have them dead in a few hours.
Hey what's up brotha! I have dealt with aphids for a min now and couldn't figure out where they were coming from. These little shits just wouldn't go away. You need to knock them the hell out right away. By you hitting them little here and little there is only pissing them off. Caps bennies do work I use it full strength with great success, but sounds like they have you by the balls right now. A trip to home depot and 20 bucks will have them dead in a few hours.
You talking about the ortho? I read that the ortho bug killer was effective against RA and bulb mites.
Ya I read somewhere from Jalisco to use bifenthrin and ortho was it. I flushed little over full strength let it sit for a few hours with lights off and flushed it out. No root damage as triazicide almost killed my last run. The trick is to find the ants. My house sucks and they get in, have to do maintenance in the yard spraying and along the house. With the holidays I got lazy and they hit real hard.
I did have good success with your bennies, a few good teas I kept them at bay for a while. Granted I would dump a kilo in 2 55 gal drums
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I did one drench with ortho a little under full strength and instantly picked up greener, waited 2 days checked intensely and found only a few. I just flooded with more than full strength as I noticed some roots exploded so not much damage to the plants. Gonna wait and see. I have to order some met52. 2015 the year with no aphids haha
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