Fox Farm???

[basscaptain]

My ? is for the people that use Fox Farm , should I use Happy Frog, Ocean or mix the 2.................................... when I go to put these beans in soil

 

[MIMedGrower]

I have compared all 3 and consistantly got better results with ocean forest only mixed with 25% or more large perlite.

Happy frog is their budget alternative.

 

[basscaptain]

I have compared all 3 and consistantly got better results with ocean forest only mixed with 25% or more large perlite.

Happy frog is their budget alternative.

ty I have beans in both right now, but the beans that I started and will be doing in a day or 2 I just went to get these rolling so I just wanted to ask.... Ty

sry 1 more ?? how long will the soil last if it is put on a pallet and covered, reason I'm asking is this store I ran into has the ocean for a GREAT price... they close for 3 months end of nov. can I buy a few bags and just store it????

 

[1diesel1]

ty I have beans in both right now, but the beans that I started and will be doing in a day or 2 I just went to get these rolling so I just wanted to ask.... Ty

sry 1 more ?? how long will the soil last if it is put on a pallet and covered, reason I'm asking is this store I ran into has the ocean for a GREAT price... they close for 3 months end of nov. can I buy a few bags and just store it????

I strictly use happy frog, had a bad experience with ocean forest and factory born gnats that came with the bags.

 

[MIMedGrower]

ty I have beans in both right now, but the beans that I started and will be doing in a day or 2 I just went to get these rolling so I just wanted to ask.... Ty

sry 1 more ?? how long will the soil last if it is put on a pallet and covered, reason I'm asking is this store I ran into has the ocean for a GREAT price... they close for 3 months end of nov. can I buy a few bags and just store it????

It is only fresh and worth using organic soil like ocean forest for 3-6 months after bagging. 1 year for stuff like pro mix with no added ammendments. It all breaks down over time.

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[MIMedGrower]

I strictly use happy frog, had a bad experience with ocean forest and factory born gnats that came with the bags.

Same factory. Soils mixed in same hopper in their video.

They add the myco to happy frog because of the lack of enough organic inputs. No need for ocean forest.


But i got my gnats this year from sunlight supplies new soil mother earth groundswell. But it was from the stores storage. Thats where the gnats usually come from as they dont inhabit dry soil.

 

[1diesel1]

Same factory. Soils mixed in same hopper in their video.

They add the myco to happy frog because of the lack of enough organic inputs. No need for ocean forest.


But i got my gnats this year from sunlight supplies new soil mother earth groundswell. But it was from the stores storage. Thats where the gnats usually come from as they dont inhabit dry soil.

This was some years ago, probably changed it up after all the complaints. New a lot of Farmers that had the same issue at the time.

 

[bloodhungry]

Use the happy frog for vegging and the ocean forest for flower. If you actually read the bags good youll see for the needs of the plant its almost perfectly balanced for specific veg or flower. My advice is to cut it with say a 60/40 blend of the foxfarm(frog or forest) and mix with either promix hp or roots organics 707 and youll love the outcome and your dirt will go a lot further.

 

[bloodhungry]

Then youll have no need for nuits for the first 2 weeks of flower, just ph'd water and cal/mag.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Use the happy frog for vegging and the ocean forest for flower. If you actually read the bags good youll see for the needs of the plant its almost perfectly balanced for specific veg or flower. My advice is to cut it with say a 60/40 blend of the foxfarm(frog or forest) and mix with either promix hp or roots organics 707 and youll love the outcome and your dirt will go a lot further.

They say to start seedlings right on the bag. There are no specific veg and flower bags. Just cheap and more expensive from how high quality the inputs are.

I have actually read the bags and the website. Lol. Sounds like you didnt.

 

[basscaptain]

ok here's the deal, if I use pm/hp I have to order it, so I'm trying to use the fox farm cause I can get it, it's a good price point.... and if I have to learn something new , I need easy simple and easy , I like to shop at mom pop stores cause it helps keep them in food....... So with that said I can see what else they have in stock tomorrow, But I all ready have both mr happy and the sea bass

 

[bloodhungry]

dude your an idiot

 

[bloodhungry]

I was making a personal preference to a suggestion. id love to put my plants against yours anyday there MIMedGrower, funny haa im from Michigan too.

 

[1diesel1]

Seedlings started in rapid rooter cubes set in happy frog soil. Just kept the soil moist enough to keep the cubes moist. 100% success rate.

Here’s one of the mothers I kept from that run @Rootbound turned me on to.

 

[hps4891]

I use ocean forest and am happy with it so far. I dont put beans str8 in it tho, i always do paper towels/ziplocs then transfer after they pop. And at 1st i dont use it str8, until they grow a few pairs of leaves, i mix OF with peat & perlite so they dont get burned. Ive had good luck with that lately. And for baby sprouts that seem like they may be sensitive, i use 2 parts peat with 1 part perlite for at least the 1st couple weeks. Just wouldnt go much longer in the peat mix cuz it seems to get super acidic after that.

 

[MIMedGrower]

I was making a personal preference to a suggestion. id love to put my plants against yours anyday there MIMedGrower, funny haa im from Michigan too.

Hey you cast the first insult when you said actually read the bag. Everything you wrote was opinion about the soils.

 

[oldskol4evr]

I have compared all 3 and consistantly got better results with ocean forest only mixed with 25% or more large perlite.

Happy frog is their budget alternative.

i agree,i do beans right into ocean forest,more time then not when im growing medicine it is the go too,up to you to build the bioligy you seek,happy frog is all right,but ocean would be my choice,doesnt need any feed for at least the first 3 weeks,every bag i PH and NPK test,6.5 and adequte ,P and K,N has been surplus for a fresh bag

 

[hps4891]

Oh good grief some of these threads with the bickering. I check my ego at the door cuz the way i see no matter how long i/anyone has been growing, we can always learn somthn from everyone. Even if its to *not* be like them lol

 

[oldskol4evr]

ty I have beans in both right now, but the beans that I started and will be doing in a day or 2 I just went to get these rolling so I just wanted to ask.... Ty

sry 1 more ?? how long will the soil last if it is put on a pallet and covered, reason I'm asking is this store I ran into has the ocean for a GREAT price... they close for 3 months end of nov. can I buy a few bags and just store it????

tarp it like you would concrete bags and it will be fine,you want a little air just enough were the bags stacked dont sweat,under the tarp i put trash bag on top then cover with tarp

 

[MIMedGrower]

Oh good grief some of these threads with the bickering. I check my ego at the door cuz the way i see no matter how long i/anyone has been growing, we can always learn somthn from everyone. Even if its to *not* be like them lol

Dont you think made up stuff should be corrected?