Kennie_B said:

Last go round with FFOF I had gnats coming out of the soil after the first watering, new unopened bag straight from the shop. Is it related I dont know but I am in the South.

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Seamaiden said:

I just found out Dr. Earth sold out to Gardener & Bloom, and now Gardener & Bloom is remaking all the Dr. Earth ferts. So I pick up a bag of their Acid Loving Plants Organic 4, and the numbers are rather different. Much less potassium than the old Dr. Earth formulation.

Roor, I think folks are agreeing that if you want consistently good soil, go with Roots Organic.

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dican01 said:

selling the company is always a bad sign. down to earth organics is just as good if not better than dr earth imo. if you can find them, give them a try. they are out of eugene, oregon.

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waayne said:

Tex I've used their 707,Soiless Mix,and the Root's Organic potting soil.
I liked the 707,but my favorite is using their organic potting soil as a base mix adding some dolomite lime and perlite,for a milder mix I alway's add some peat.I have used it straight from the bag but it's a little too rich for most of my strains without gettin cut with some perlite or peat!!!!
My food hog's likes it straight from the bag!!!!
Root's Organic alway's seem's to maximize sweetness and floral aroma's.My TrainwreckxOG alway's is sweeter in the Root's mix and by contrast FF Happy Frog would give the same clone's more of the fuel aroma and flavor.:rasta2:

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Yeah Tex ever since Willy sold Fox Farm the quality
has really fell off.The product is now very inconsistent.
The NC plant seem's to just crank out crap!!!!

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rooraholic said:

sooo whats the best?

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BigCountry said:

Call them up, Foxfarm has not been sold
I think that 1:1 Ocean Forest to Light Warrior is one of the best and easiest mixes out there. It got famous in High Times a few years ago, which doesn't say much, but I've used it for years.
Lightening up any soil like Ocean Forest with Perlite or Light Warrior will help drainage and plant success.

And, any unsterilized potting soil can have fungus gnats in it. I did a side by side of Amazon Bloom, Black Gold, Ocean Forest, and Roots Greenfields (Copy of Ocean Forest) and when I emptied the bag of Greenfields into the bed, gnats flew into my face. Kind of speaks for itself. Stick with Foxfarm...

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Sorry dude you're misinformed.....
Willy sold the company some time ago....

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Tex said:

Hey fellas, I was at the grow shop earlier and a friend of a friend who works there advised me to not get the FFOF. The grow shop said they have been getting a lot of people whose plants have been dying, pests/root aphids, fungus, pieces of roots that were not broken down, large chunks of crap, etc. etc. in the soil. This is not just from indoor operations, but from legit grow clubs and legit growers.

Someone contacted FF and they supposedly did confirm that due to demand they had to open a new facility in S.C...Supposedly, there were some manufacturing errors and they have fixed them. Hmmm.?

Also, the S.C. plant is using pine bark fines instead of redwood, which is what the west coast processing plant uses? I believe that is what he said..? We all know most plants use local products to amend the basic recipe, but pine fines, really FoxFarm? Quality gone down.. Tisk Tisk!!! :mad0229:

So has anyone had any issues lately or the last few months with FFOF, especially East Coast and Mid-West growers? Is this true or is this cat blowing smoke, why would he be lying tho? Hmmm. :thinking Or am I just a day late and a dollar short on this and everyone else already knows? Hahaha.. Help a brotha out.. :cool0019:

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