Fungus Gnats

VonDank · Oct 6, 2017

xeamonk said:
Amen on the nematodes

I used nematodes once for a serious infestation that was killing my plants. it was horrible. i did not realize it could get that bad. i applied 25 million total of two species of nematodes and a few day later they were basically destroyed. i was able to finish the grow like nothing happened. now i use a root barrier made out of solar screen and it keeps them from going in and out of the pots. thats how they reproduce so if you can stop that. problem solved.

gotta hate bugs but gotta love beneficials and predators, i was seriously impressed with the damage they did for me :)

some nematodes in action on a gnat maggot
-Cheers

VonDank · Oct 6, 2017

Love the solar screen cover idea. Very creative !!!

VonDank · Oct 6, 2017

Tasty Buds said:
Dunks will keep em in check at best. Dunks are BT, while Microbe lyft is BTI. Dunks, especially if you have a large grow going get fairly expensive.
Check out Miroble Lyft online. It last forever, dirt cheap, safe, and way more effective.
For 30 bucks or so, you're set for a few years...Even if you're running 50 lights. Just be sure they're not aphid flyers, so put up a few slices of sticky traps

VonDank · Oct 6, 2017

We use microbe lyft in all of our facilities. In my personal grows I use dunks.

Tasty Buds said:
Dunks will keep em in check at best. Dunks are BT, while Microbe lyft is BTI. Dunks, especially if you have a large grow going get fairly expensive.
Check out Miroble Lyft online. It last forever, dirt cheap, safe, and way more effective.
For 30 bucks or so, you're set for a few years...Even if you're running 50 lights. Just be sure they're not aphid flyers, so put up a few slices of sticky traps

Thank you for the reply Tasty. We use microbe lyft in all our commercial facilities along with Regalia as our preventative SOP's. My personal grows get crushed Dunks. I've never had a gnat since my first use years ago. They work fantastic but thank you for bringing up the microbe lyft for others to read so they have options such as ditomateous earth or layer of growstone gnatmix or even nematodes as you said. Few ways to kill the larvae or pupae of the gnats.

xeamonk · Oct 30, 2017

Yea or nay?

Plant condom:

nylon nut milk bag, zip tie, fiberglass screen, sand.

under the sand is fine mesh solar screen *cut to fit the inside diameter of the pot and covered in sand. *oversized and kerfed/slotted

I applied 10 million nematodes about 2 weeks ago, currently using yellow stickies and microbe-lift bti. Infestation is controlled but not eliminated. yet.

any thoughts on this design? kinda freaking desperate if you ask me but hell ill do anything at this point. it isnt as weird as DWC, is it?

the sand i used is called "high desert sand" i think its silica sand? anyone ever use this type of sand before? it foamed up a ton (some for sure) when i washed it, no clue what that was....

-Cheers

Tasty Buds · Oct 30, 2017

Microb lyft. In a week, if you see any, ya might have aphids. Put a potatoe on the surface. If the wings are longer than body, 2 pipes out the ass, more aggressively fly to light, and deficiencies. I don't know if you've had em before, but they'll destroy your crop.
1 2 3 ponds for Microb Lyft (or lift * forgot spelling)

xeamonk · Oct 31, 2017

Ive been looking for aphids and all I can find is fungus gnats. at least by my ID, wings not longer than the body but they do have two protrusions on the tail, like hooks kind of... im pretty sure i saw one laying an egg with them... real disgusting.

xeamonk · Oct 31, 2017

these be the ones:

Tasty Buds · Oct 31, 2017

Yeah, gnats. Microbe lyft will end em fast. VERY powerful. 1 small drop a gallon. It's meant for ponds, but organic, cheap, and works (wont harm the plant) !!!! It's not BT like the dunks. It's BTI
Check it out.

xeamonk · Oct 31, 2017

yup i got a bottle last year actually and i have been using it (for about 2 weeks now)at a rate of 3-5 drops per gallon. i guess one drop is enough, anyways im still seeing gnats, however, i gave up on it last time after two weeks and have heard that you really need to use it for at least that long to account for variations in the life cycle and generational overlap. at this point (past few days) i have only seen a few and i wonder if they are coming in from somewhere (anywhere) still or if they are still kicking in my pots. if so, these are some tough lil bastards ill give them at least credit for that.

Tasty Buds · Oct 31, 2017

Strange. I had none in 9 days.
Is your plant suffering?
If ya can send a pic of the ass. It could be a different type of gnat, or aphid?
In Col, and the NE it's got the gnats everytime.
Aphids SUCK!!

xeamonk · Oct 31, 2017

yeah man, my plants were getting bad, for various reasons but the gnats were causing visible damage in the leaves. necrotic spots, curling and dying, yellowing all around, slow growth and lack of vigor for sure. they are all doing so much better as of the last week and especially now, they look ok and are resuming more regular, healthy growth.

im going to lay new traps tonight and see what the deal is tomorrow. im hoping i dont see a aphid, that would explain some things... i could go ON about my grow but im having some issues. last round was a breeze, even beat the gnats. idk why i cant this time.

Tasty Buds · Oct 31, 2017

Yeah, either you have both, a REAL bad gnat infestation, or both.
Put a potatoe on the rim, or under the sand. They'r attracted to potatoes.

Tasty Buds · Oct 31, 2017

Spinosad is good stuff, but the Microbe was the only thing that's ever gotten rid of them, although I'd stay on it every 2 weeks or so.
If you really want to get rid of them for good, ya gotta do it in veg. Uf you use an imid, you eradicate them.
Although fungas gnats don't do too much damage on thier own, the will spead disease.

DemonTrich · Oct 31, 2017

Nothing comes up when searching "microbe lyft" except gibberish on Google

Im.always looking for a cheaper alternative to promis. Which works flawlessly.

Tasty Buds · Oct 31, 2017

Here it is. You can get it at 123 ponds.I wasn't sure if they spelt it Lift, or lyft.

Leew421 · Oct 31, 2017

I made a heavy mix of water and 90% iso. Dropped those bitches like a bad habbit.

Tasty Buds · Oct 31, 2017

Leew421 said:
I made a heavy mix of water and 90% iso. Dropped those bitches like a bad habbit.

Dam, yeah tbat will kill em lol. If you didn't see any noticeale damage to the plant, you have your ratio perfect. If it works, can't argue. Did you treat thr rootd the next day?
I do not believe in additives with 2 exceptions (hydro) Drip clean, and Roots excel. Roots is so good, i don't need rooting hormones.
For thoes who spend a fortune on rooting gel, look into dip n grow. By far the best rooting agent. 10 bucks will make at least 2000 clones.

DemonTrich · Oct 31, 2017

Dip n grow FTMFW!!!

Hands down the BEST!

brazel · Oct 31, 2017

I use microbe lift bti too!
I like the mosquito bits over the mosquito dunks but the microbe lift is my fav. I like it cuz it's a liquid I just water in... easy
I also use yellow sticky cards and
Predatory insects.

I don't over water, I don't underwater and I don't have wet dry Cycles. I keep a constant moisture.

My top 1-2" is mulch which is pretty much
Decay, mold and fungi central!
It's basically a beacon to fungus gnats saying hey Disneyland is right here come and play.

I'm always ready for them thou! I'm fighting against them before they even show up!

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