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A fraction of our commercial clients are building 1000 light setups, this market will be so heavily saturated in 2-3 years how could any home grower expect to profit?
A fraction of our commercial clients are building 1000 light setups, this market will be so heavily saturated in 2-3 years how could any home grower expect to profit?Maybe from a light manufacturer perspective but I still disagree if you mean overall market, over half the country is criminalized. We are still a ways off from the major boom in this industry.
A fraction of our commercial clients are building 1000 light setups, this market will be so heavily saturated in 2-3 years how could any home grower expect to profit?
Profit? For most of us, home growing isn't about profit, it's about quality bud for personal consumption!A fraction of our commercial clients are building 1000 light setups, this market will be so heavily saturated in 2-3 years how could any home grower expect to profit?
back on topic to TKs grow. dont want this nice thread to turn in to a debate on the commercialization of weed.
Here is the dehumidifier I use.
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http://www.drieaz.com/_DEC/DEC_Product_Base.aspx?decID=2120
I just hit #2.48 a light with Kosher Kush in my old school 1k setup with 2 lights a table on 4' centers non air cooled hoods..needless to say I was pretty stoked..lol
A fraction of our commercial clients are building 1000 light setups, this market will be so heavily saturated in 2-3 years how could any home grower expect to profit?
back on topic to TKs grow. dont want this nice thread to turn in to a debate on the commercialization of weed.
BUT THE PL FIXTURES FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN BLOW GAVITA AWAY!It isn't 33% more lighting to achieve the same results. It's some tech telling you how to hang lights and you assuming everything would be the same. Gavita has told people out here to throw up gavitas on 3 foot centers. It doesn't prove anything. They have the same amount of light, they're the same bulb. It's how you want the throw. The e-pap throws more of it sideways, look at the reflector, doesn't take a mastermind to see that. The Gavita throws it all down. It's the radiant 8 of double ended hoods. Works great for a lot of people's needs.
The e-pap gets better cross light if both systems are hung on 5 foot centers. It isn't "miraculous". Look in the tent half that epap light is bouncing off the walls. But if there were no walls there that same light would be hitting canopy. Do the same test with four hoods in a 10x10 tent and you'll see different results. The gavita has hot spots, so much so you have to replace the aluminum reflector. The e-pap doesn't, it runs cooler. I've yet to see multiple hundreds of gavitas hung but i've seen hundreds and hundreds of e-paps in commercial facilities.
He doesn't sell for less than $300 because it is a quality fixture but it is the BEST fixture on the market. Been in business longer than any commercial greenhouse company in north America. As GREENINTHETHUMB SAYS buy PL!You talking to James Grouzos? You can get those pl ones for next to nothing. $300 or less. Kill it!
Your right on track buying PL. Reflectors don't have to be changed every year like the other brands and this is what most commercial growers use. Call Bravo Lighting in Denver, they are distributors for PL.Walls are finished with FRP up to 10' or 12'...Have y'all seen the new PL Lighting DE fixtures...titties!! bout to do some silly shit with these fixtures
http://www.pllight.com/products/fixtures/hse-nxt-ii/
Big tip of the month...Co2 in veg is more benificial in veg than in flower...my veg rooms are killin it and I have shaved probably 21 days off my veg cycle times
any news on these fixtures and their performance yet TK? i looked at pl fixtures years ago before i set up my room full o cooltubes so im curious on those de fixtures you spoke of.Walls are finished with FRP up to 10' or 12'...Have y'all seen the new PL Lighting DE fixtures...titties!! bout to do some silly shit with these fixtures
http://www.pllight.com/products/fixtures/hse-nxt-ii/
Big tip of the month...Co2 in veg is more benificial in veg than in flower...my veg rooms are killin it and I have shaved probably 21 days off my veg cycle times
BUT THE PL FIXTURES FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN BLOW GAVITA AWAY!
Epaps throw the light out too far. Pl has two reflectors so you can get the right pattern. They can also do light plans for larger grow ops. Why do you think PL is the Market leader in Lighting crops? It all comes down to how you grow and light your garden. Air cooled hoods lower your output and change the spectrum. That is why most air cooled hood growers are switching to PL IF they can get their cooling systems under control. EPAP is fine if the patterns fit what your doing but you want penetration into the crop, not just lighting the tops. gavita will work but they are telling people to change the reflectors almost yearly. PL focuses on what works, IMO Gavita sells anything that lights up and if you have $$ they will take it. See if they sell the same stuff to Commercial flower growers. No one really wants Plasma and the guy, I think his name is Ron @ gavita told me the plasma is a "piece of crap", But he will sell it if you have the money. Research what works best for commercial growers. Gavita and PL are the top two, with PL being #1 IMO. but again, see what works best for your area. Don't put a fixture with a round pattern in a square room...... etc.How would you compare these to Epaps?
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