G4 - Julius Caesar - 2x600 and 1x400 on Lightrail

[VenomPimp]

Alot of people dont realize that RATIOs are more imporant than anything. Jamming a bunch of shit into your plants will usually end in lockouts or at the very least, harsh-burning junk.

On the other hand, your grow looks awesome...nice clean setup, healthy green plants. Nice work...

 

[LEBDOG]

Alot of people dont realize that RATIOs are more imporant than anything. Jamming a bunch of shit into your plants will usually end in lockouts or at the very least, harsh-burning junk.

On the other hand, your grow looks awesome...nice clean setup, healthy green plants. Nice work...

I am not going without my nutrient schedule or ratio's, I just can't take the 5.42ml and 5.824Ph specifications. The results these guys are getting don't justify the level of detail they are implementing.

It's not that hard, as you can see by my results on my 4th personal grow. It is very easy to over think your garden and when I have let the advice of these over thinkers enter in to my garden, it almost always ends up stressing or even killing my plants.

That's all I am getting at...

Now, my buddy in the SFV has a 500gallon reservoir and when he adds nutes it's in the form of entire liter containers or larger. 1 liter of this, 2 liters of that, 3 liters this, etc... Ratio's are easier (but more expensive) with a larger res since you can throw whole liters at the tank. This for him, with his experience works out amazing!

I promise getting too gnarly, will only impress those who don't get it about working smarter, not harder. I think that's what it's about here, as many senior gardeners have shown me.

 

[Shady]

Hmmm... I measure pH to the 2nd decimal and more importantly the drift through the week. I've started measuring nutes in whole ml's since the volume of RO water I start with is usually not always the same. Pick and choose your battles... I work smarter, not harder. :cool

 

[LEBDOG]

Hmmm... I measure pH to the 2nd decimal and more importantly the drift through the week. I've started measuring nutes in whole ml's since the volume of RO water I start with is usually not always the same. Pick and choose your battles... I work smarter, not harder. :cool

I was not targetting you at all, but these decimal points kill me and if you feel attacked, what can I say. You may actually understand this stuff somewhat, where this really complicates things for newbies and makes it harder to gain a foothold in my opinion...

All I can say is that micro managing my grow has only frustrated me...

 

[LEBDOG]

Nuts for Nutes

Basically, I have been smoking A quality stuff for 20+ years. At the time I began smoking, there were few nutrient companies. Weed still killed and the HK had just hit the westside about then...

Now with all these nutrients, users have so many opportunities to overdose and overdo and ultimately go crazy with nutrients when the plant is and has been simple for a long time. Some people may feel targeted, but as I read journals from so many, I just feel the nutrients are kinda getting out of control. I struggle to find true controlled information. Then to see all these crazy additives and decimal points, it just drives me nuts. Have these people heard of control. How do you know what really going on without a good control model. This is where I find frustration.

No one needs to feel targeted or see this as a battle, that's silly. I challenge anyone who feels targeted to define exactly what's going on in their garden, why, but that's just your opinion (like the one I stated); and you are entitled to it like I am. I can see this as a battle if I posted this in another's journal, but I didn't. Let's not let this turn in to the Real Housewives of New Jersey.

 

[Shady]

Huh... Actually I didn't think you were targeting me with your diatribe... :tongueout I was merely stating my opinion in response.

Maybe I should have phrased things differently... I agree that 1st grows should be kept simple and basic. I didn't have a pH or PPM meter until Round 3 (actually the last couple wks of Round 2, where I discovered I had been feeding my girls well over 2200 PPM's and a pH above 6.3... No wonder their leaves were burned with lockout). However I think working smarter also means being organized and taking good notes so that one can add one new supplement to their basic nutrient regiment and observe the results. Understanding how to read and listen to your plants response to diff nutrient profiles and supplements is important to making those notes make sense.

Working smarter by taking detailed notes also helps one to be more efficient and make far fewer mistakes when dealing with diff mediums and corresponding nutrients, especially when they are occuring concurrently, but at diff stages of veg and/or bloom.

In other words... IMHO, there's nothing wrong with taking notes of nutrient mixes as long as they serve a useful purpose. :cool

 

[LEBDOG]

G4 - Flower Day 56

Well, a couple of things have happened recently, most notable I watched the series of zeitgeitmovie films and had my entire world turned upside down. I knew the Jesus thing a long time ago, but the economic slavery was never so vivid. Anyways, that's probably why I went on a rant the other day, having to vent something after such a root! Mucho's triste!

Well, that awful reality aside, the garden is doing pretty good. The buds have really fattened up and some had to be tied up so they wouldn't fall in to the drink. I took a lot of shots of some decent nugs with no particular discrimination. There are a few shots where the leaves are turning a purple-black. I have never had this before in one of my strains, but I assume this is part of the master coming through. I noticed this purple in the JC shots I have seen other's posting also...

Because it's day 56, I began my flush today using Final. I added 200ml which is what the bottle calls for, not the reduced ratio I normally apply. This 200ml with such high a nutrient ppm already going should work out fine. Should I need to push beyond day 63, I will continue to run RO water only.

Here is an overall shot, and then the closeups:

Don't let zeitgeistmovie ruin your life, basically nothing changes (IMO). Just work on one's self, there's no way many I know, will ever upset themselves enough with the truth, to ever honestly listen to this...

 

[Shady]

Now those are some beautiful bud shots! Very nice job LEB... :sign0005:

I think we're gonna see some sick nug shots after harvest this round... :thinking

 

[LEBDOG]

Cloned 3 Alien's for sex...

Tonight, I decided I had put off cloning my AlienBubba's long enough. I kinda screwed up and cut a few too new of growth, so I cut a good node as well on A1 (center mother). I took only an old clone of A2 (left mother), because there weren't as many choices. They are quite different from each other in their respective growth styles.

Many of the JC plants that are closer to their harvest time have leaves which are purpling first, then going yellow. I have never before had an OG which went purple then yellow like this, and I really believe they are SFV OG dominant.

I got my fingers crossed with this single clone from A2, but it's a pretty good one so I am hoping for the best. I will know in about 3 days...

 

[LEBDOG]

CANOPY Observation

I can't thank enough, those who encouraged me to trim my plant canopy this round. I have been squeezing my nugs a bit to check for density and can't believe the difference. It's frankly beyond my highest expectations, and I know I don't even have that good of a setup. This nug density, has forced me to tie up most branches that didn't crest the trellis.

Agreeing with Shady, I have divided my plants in to three canopies. I also see three distinct areas, though I do not know their specific region names and struggle to come up with them so I omit them and use laymen terms.

The bottom region is where I severely trim the lower 2 or 3 branches & the plants leaves entirely as there won't be any A or B nugs there anyways. I trim some huge fan leaves on in the middle region to allow for better light penetration. The top canopy is left basically alone with exception of a few large fan leaves.

After trimming my plants I can squeeze my nugs from top to bottom and the density is about the same. Without the canopy cleanup (trim), the top nugs were dense, the middle were OK, but the lower nugs were fluff central. This round, the top nugs seem tight, the middle nugs seem just as tight and the few lower nugs again, just as tight. I can't wait to see how this represents itself in the form of weight in the coming weeks.

I am just thrilled I took the risk and massacred my plants, that's what it felt like the first time. Looking at the difference from G3 to G4, aside from better nutrients, that's the biggest difference this round.

 

[Shady]

I'm seriously impressed with this round LEB... and I know we're both much happier having more A and B grade nugs and no fluff. :cool Now you can run some killer oil of B nuggies, and really pack those tables next round...

 

[LEBDOG]

Flower Day 60 - Julius Caesar

Today is day 60 of flower and there was one particular plant who was way ahead of the others for some reason. I chopped this plant down today and hung it to dry. This leaves 14 more plants. I can't believe how much this plant weighed and the popcorn little nugs are rock solid. This is gonna be a good harvest. It's always nice to have something of my own to smoke when I'm cutting down the fruits of my labor. :cool0010:

I think that rather than chop them all at once, I am gonna chop them as they finish a bit. It's looking like Sunday will be good chop day for some of the plants, but many will push on another week or so... I can't think of any good reason to chop them early as they are really putting on the weight. I see the white haired one's really beginning to fill in and they basically get a cola styled lion's mane when they are done.

 

[waayne]

LEBDOG those girls are looking killer!
Really nice garden
Congrats:rastadancing:

 

[LEBDOG]

Black Gold - Texas Tea - JC Oil

I like to pull all excessive leaves off a drying plant to expedite the process. This time I collected these leaves in 2 containers, 1 with frost and 1 without. I trashed the without frost leaves and made a test BHO run with hardly dry leaves from 1 plant. I ended up with some white frosty BHO unlike any dried BHO I have ever made before.

I advise any other farmers out there to try this before quick drying buds. I would have trashed those leaves anyways, they aren't really even trim level. This BHO will carry me through the next couple days as I wait for things to dry and progress.

 

[LEBDOG]

Snip Snip

Snip Snip Snip

 

[Shady]

Get them scissors ready and the camera too... no excuses for a lack of killer nug shots this round brah... :itwasntme

 

[LEBDOG]

no excuses for a lack of killer nug shots this round brah... :itwasntme

I owe everybody who helped me and will not let them down. Thanks, LOL! RIP :character0110: RJ (My Missed Friend) LOL

Here's 1 to start with. I like to trim my plants in 3 parts. I like to first remove all of the large fan leaves and let the plant dry that way at minimum. Usually I like to remove all frost containing leaves next and save them for BHO. Then I trim the buds on or about the 5th day. The plant on the left had the fan leaves and frost leaves removed and is drying for final trim. The plant on the right is just cut down and waiting.

 

[LEBDOG]

Flower Day 63 - Full Harvest

Well, after looking a bit closer at the nugs, today is the day, so whack! They are all cut down. Here is the completed, 1st trim stage (pictured right). I like the plants to dry this way at minimum. If I end up fiending any more oil, then I will take them to stage 2.

 

[winta]

ooooh yeeeea! :) choppy time!

 

[LEBDOG]

Gearing up for G5

Here are the best plants from G4, drying upside down in my new 3x3 tent for G5 (Nug porn to follow later):

I plan to use my normal grow area (two 4x4's & lightrail) G5, but also, incorporate this new tent and a new high power LED in to G5 also. Not sure if I will run the LEDGIRL 345W, or the AN SG602. I am leaning toward the SG602, since it has a 90 day money back warranty. I am gonna line up the return before I purchase the SG602, in the event it fails to best LEDGirls results.

I have been looking at various mediums, and think I will stick with a 3x3 tray and smart pots, for comparison purposes and simplicity. I don't think I am gonna change anything in my style except the LED addition. This way I can really see what's what...

I think I am gonna trim the plants tonight until I pass out and can't trim any more. Hopefully I can make it through at least 50% of them...
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