Gavita Pro 1650e Led Vs Spydr 2i/p

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I was listening to greengenes live replay and growmau5 was talking about 800 ppfd from 24+ inches away and I think he said 1300ppfd at 6" which fluence is recommending... crazy lol
 
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Also someone mentioned they use asrom(sp?) Chips but they're still using all their whites in samsung 301b's just reds are osroms(sp?) Even though they bought fluence.
 
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So which one out the three.. i've ordered the fluence but now i'm thinking about the other two lights
 
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Well, I may be out. Just discovered the Quantum Boards by HLG. For a 5x10' that I hoped 2 SPYDR 2i would cover for $3000, I can get better coverage with less watts by 4 HLG 320 DIY kits at $500 each. The light patterns give me a lot more versatility too in setting up different row sizes.
 
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LiveRosin said:
Well, I may be out. Just discovered the Quantum Boards by HLG. For a 5x10' that I hoped 2 SPYDR 2i would cover for $3000, I can get better coverage with less watts by 4 HLG 320 DIY kits at $500 each. The light patterns give me a lot more versatility too in setting up different row sizes.
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If you fine tune the hlg with reds n so forth it be close the price of fluence thats why i went fluence for my next setup by the way i got 6 hlg 288
 
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blactunda said:
If you fine tune the hlg with reds n so forth it be close the price of fluence thats why i went fluence for my next setup by the way i got 6 hlg 288
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The Spydr's are super impressive, for sure. With the HLG's, I'm thinking of just adding some UVB supplemental light between them. The 320W kit throws a 2.5'x5' bloom footprint, which solved a lot of scrog problems for me. I'd rather do a 20' row 30 inches deep against a wall, than a 5x10 table and the Spydr won't do that. Their other lighting will, but they aren't up to the specs of the 2i.
 
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Burned Haze said:
Gavita Pro 1650e LED

Well has anyone tried this led or seen any journals online with this led yet ? I would love to see some input and opinion cause gavita is def trying to fight in the led game


Sounds interesting to sound the least... ( I’m in no way affiliated or advertising this company , just wanted to bring their new led up to discussion/see if anyone has any views )


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The Gavita Pro 1650 LED ML is 1650 µmol s-1 fixture with an efficiency of 2.6 µmol s-1 per watt. ML stands for Multi-Layer, as the array of LEDs provides a uniform spread of light at short distance to the crop. The array configuration of 8 LED bars also allows you to use it in low rooms, over single benches, or even in 4 x 4 ft or 5 x 5 ft tents. This fixture is built with high quality 120-270 volt Philips advance drivers. Power cords sold separately.

The Gavita Pro 1650e LED ML LED grow light can be used in commercial grows (horizontal and vertical), greenhouses, home grows (rooms and tents) or in climate rooms. The thin 2.1 inch profile is also ideal for low rooms or over benches.

Boasting an incredible 2.6 umol/J and a light output of 1650 umol/s the Pro1650e LED ML provides high-intensity full spectrum light over its entire 4'x4' to 5'x5' flowering footprint. The wide 8-bar form factor helps to provide even coverage across your canopy.

This fixture is passively cooled and is built with high-quality 120-277V Philips Advance LED Drivers for optimum performance.

Features and Benefits
  • Full spectrum with enhanced red for full cycle grows
  • Wide 8-bar form factor for even canopy coverage
  • 646-watt power draw to replace a 1000W HPS
  • 1650 umol/s light output
  • 2.6 umol/J efficiency
  • 120-277V adaptable driver
  • Compatible with Gavita Master EL1 and EL2 Gen 2 Controller for full lighting control
Product Notes
  • The 120V and 240V cords include a plug. The 277V contains an open end cable (open wire leads).
  • The E-Series adapter is only needed if you are connecting the LED fixture(s) to a controller. Otherwise, only a power cord is needed to operate the fixture.
Product Specs
  • Wattage Draw: 646 watts (120V), 629 watts (208-240V), 629 watts (277V)
  • HPS equivalent: 1000 watts
  • Spectrum: Full-spectrum white with enhanced red for seed to flower growth
  • PPF (light output): 1650 umol/s
  • PAR Efficacy: 2.6 umol/J
  • Coverage area: Flowering footprint: 4'x4' to 5'x5' (16 to 25 sq ft), Vegetative footprint: 6'x6' to 7'x7' (36 to 49 sq ft)
  • Dimensions: 44.1 x 44.1 x 2.1 in (112 x 112 x 5.3 cm)
  • Product weight: 28.4 lbs (12.9 kg)
  • Temperature Ambient: 68 ~ 86° F / 20 ~ 30° C for optimal functioning
  • Operating/input voltage: 5.4 A (120V), 2.6 A (208-240V), 2.3 A (277V)
  • Additional details: ETL certified; Can be connected to a Master controller with optional Gavita E-Series Adaptor
  • Product includes: Light fixture [unless selected with options (i.e. cord, controller)]
  • Recommended for: Commercial grows, Greenhouses, Home grows (rooms and tents), Soil, hydroponic, aeroponic, or aquaponic systems, Indoor farming or gardening
  • Manufacturer's Warranty: 3 years (see product specs for details)
THE GAVITA PRO 1650e LED
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED is a 1650 µmol s-1 fixture with an impressive efficiency of 2.6 µmol s-1 per watt. The Pro 1650e LED delivers broad coverage with its' 8 passively cooled LED bars. It can be used in a top light or multi-layer application. This powerful, full-spectrum light source is intended for full term plant growth from the vegetative stage to the higher light requiring bloom stage. This fixture is built with high quality 120-277 volt Philips brand drivers.

FORM FACTOR
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED is a project fixture by design. It installs right out of the box, reducing installation costs. Built around high-quality Philips-Advance drivers and top bin LEDs, the Gavita Pro 1650e LED breathes functionality and robustness. Its low height and external interface make it ideal for multi-layer cultivation. Various mounting systems (fixed brackets) are available. 4 adjustable Sun Grips light hangers are included with the fixture.

OUTPUT AND EFFICIENCY
With 1650 μmol s-1 total output, the Gavita Pro 1650e LED is a flowering fixture. It can achieve a high average ppfd of 1000 μmol s-1 m-2 on your crop. For mixed vegetative / flowering environments and to tune the amount of light to the cultivars you grow, the Gavita Pro 1650e LED can be dimmed to 50% without any loss of efficiency. The high fixture efficiency of 2.6 μmol s-1 per Watt enables you to finally leap ahead in reducing your HVAC capacity by about 30-40% compared to regular open HPS/MH solutions. The high efficiency and low powered LED configuration with 8 LED bars reduces the temperature of the LEDs – increasing the output and improving their light maintenance.

SPECTRUM
Our combination of white and red LEDs result in a relatively high ratio of blue light. Blue light keeps your crop compact in the vegetative stage and adds to an optimal morphogenesis and light interception by the plant. It maintains the photosynthetic system of the plant to optimize its photosynthetic potential and can shorten your flowering period. Blue light also triggers stomatal opening during the light period. The spread of red LEDs in the array guarantees a uniformly mixed spectrum on your crop at short distance. A full spectrum increases the quality of your crop.

EXTERNAL CONTROL
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED is compatible with the Gavita Master controllers. It is equipped with an external e-series (Repeater Bus) adapter to which you connect power and control signal. The Gavita repeater bus control interface allows you to install 500 fixtures per controller port by simply daisy chaining the fixtures. The fixture is universal for 120-277 volt systems. Depending on the required voltage, we supply a cable with 120V plug, 240V plug, or open-end cable for industrial voltages and custom installations. The cables are connected to the e-series adapter and the fixture by means of an industrial-grade “
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Hey every1, i just ordered the gavita at my local hydro shop today, ive done as much research as possible on both the spydr 2i and the gavita, the lady who runs the shop i go to has a good relationship with the rep from fluence and got him on speakerphone 4 me today so i could ask him how the par spread is on the 2i and from the numbers he told me as far as how much the ppfd drops from the center into the corners, the gavita has better uniformity and holds higher numbers by a little bit "about 100 ppfd" and i told him i was comparing the spydr 2i to the gavita and all he said was they were both excellent lights, for the better uniformity and $200+ i saved i went with gavita, if ud like to see the par test on the gavita there's a great 1 on utube by ledgrowlights depot i think it was,if any1s interested in the spydr numbers i can tell u what the rep told me
 
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The other thing people need to remember when “investing” into a company or buying their products is who owns them.

I would never support/invest Gavita even if it was 2x better. people worry about such small scale % but they are giving their money to the companies who all they want and to do is fuck us over. And never will care about cannabis or growers choices ( never asked but there’s options to not buy from asshole companies lol)
 
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LiveRosin said:
Well, I may be out. Just discovered the Quantum Boards by HLG. For a 5x10' that I hoped 2 SPYDR 2i would cover for $3000, I can get better coverage with less watts by 4 HLG 320 DIY kits at $500 each. The light patterns give me a lot more versatility too in setting up different row sizes.
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Excellent choice, and very nice fixtures for less $$. You will love them.
 
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Burned Haze said:
The other thing people need to remember when “investing” into a company or buying their products is who owns them.




I would never support/invest Gavita even if it was 2x better. people worry about such small scale % but they are giving their money to the companies who all they want and to do is fuck us over. And never will care about cannabis or growers choices ( never asked but there’s options to not buy from asshole

I would never support/invest Gavita even if it was 2x better. people worry about such small scale % but they are giving their money to the companies who all they want and to do is fuck us over. And never will care about cannabis or growers choices ( never asked but there’s options to not buy from asshole companies lol)
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Haze whats the deal with the gavita owner? He aint no skinner or diddler is he
 
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Grower211 said:
Haze whats the deal with the gavita owner? He aint no skinner or diddler is he
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GAVITA = Scott’s owned ...
https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/08/03/scotts-miracle-gro-spends-136m-on-dutch.html

Scott’s (Hawthorne) owns gavitia ,AN, and sunlight supply’s and many more. Fuckings the evilest agricultural company did ...

Don’t buy their shit, or all your doing is showing your support for the 1-3% and bringing them to the top of the cannabis competition/game and us always to the bottom. Fuck them
( end rant / back to discuss the lights lights lol)
 
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Burned Haze said:
GAVITA = Scott’s owned ...
https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/08/03/scotts-miracle-gro-spends-136m-on-dutch.html

Scott’s (Hawthorne) owns gavitia ,AN, and sunlight supply’s and many more. Fuckings the evilest agricultural company did ...

Don’t buy their shit, or all your doing is showing your support for the 1-3% and bringing them to the top of the cannabis competition/game and us always to the bottom. Fuck them
( end rant / back to discuss the lights lights lol)
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Happy I bought all mine before the by out!
 
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Burned Haze said:
GAVITA = Scott’s owned ...
https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/08/03/scotts-miracle-gro-spends-136m-on-dutch.html

Scott’s (Hawthorne) owns gavitia ,AN, and sunlight supply’s and many more. Fuckings the evilest agricultural company did ...

Don’t buy their shit, or all your doing is showing your support for the 1-3% and bringing them to the top of the cannabis competition/game and us always to the bottom. Fuck them
( end rant / back to discuss the lights lights lol)
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Seems like I see an article like this everyday. I try not to dwell on it because it's the way of the world, but it is off putting that the rich folks that considered us lowlife outlaws for a century are all about it now that there's money to be made. I just have to remind myself of the bright side- more and more people have safe access to God's medicine.
 
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