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can anybody tell me how the heat which comes off the spydrs compares to hps and cdm
can anybody tell me how the heat which comes off the spydrs compares to hps and cdm
@Rootbound to the rescue again. ok, not buying the fluences. Quantum Boards by HLG. this steep ass learning curve is a bitch. but i'm grateful for you mods taking the time to guide us.Excellent choice, and very nice fixtures for less $$. You will love them.
I normally dont go over 30 watts per square ft with my hlg quantum boards. I rum mine at 400-450 watts in my 4x4 area.@Rootbound to the rescue again. ok, not buying the fluences. Quantum Boards by HLG. this steep ass learning curve is a bitch. but i'm grateful for you mods taking the time to guide us.
do you have an optimal wattage per square foot? moreover, what freakin' wattage would i look to? my entire frame of reference is 1000watts from sodiums and halides, which was a rough proxy for lumens--sort of (given reflectivity, canopy, etc). but i haven't come to understand how to balance the cost of the input wattage in my electric bill versus the output wattage--and i know it's PAR i should be paying attention to.
slowly but surely i know... i've never been a patient woman.
grateful dead lyrics come in for the run again--"one step done, another begun". i'll get there.
Quantum Boards by HLG. And is there an optimal PAR per foot or meter..or? HELP :(
I normally dont go over 30 watts per square ft with my hlg quantum boards. I rum mine at 400-450 watts in my 4x4 area.
I normally dont go over 30 watts per square ft with my hlg quantum boards. I rum mine at 400-450 watts in my 4x4 area.
Can someone who's had experience growing with DE and modern LED (like the Spyder or Gavita) tell me what they think about the difference in flower quality between the two lights?
Thanks!
I am buying this light today. Its specs are overall better than the fluence and it costs less. I'll start a thread as soon as its delivered.Gavita Pro 1650e LED
Well has anyone tried this led or seen any journals online with this led yet ? I would love to see some input and opinion cause gavita is def trying to fight in the led game
Sounds interesting to sound the least... ( I’m in no way affiliated or advertising this company , just wanted to bring their new led up to discussion/see if anyone has any views )
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The Gavita Pro 1650 LED ML is 1650 µmol s-1 fixture with an efficiency of 2.6 µmol s-1 per watt. ML stands for Multi-Layer, as the array of LEDs provides a uniform spread of light at short distance to the crop. The array configuration of 8 LED bars also allows you to use it in low rooms, over single benches, or even in 4 x 4 ft or 5 x 5 ft tents. This fixture is built with high quality 120-270 volt Philips advance drivers. Power cords sold separately.
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED ML LED grow light can be used in commercial grows (horizontal and vertical), greenhouses, home grows (rooms and tents) or in climate rooms. The thin 2.1 inch profile is also ideal for low rooms or over benches.
Boasting an incredible 2.6 umol/J and a light output of 1650 umol/s the Pro1650e LED ML provides high-intensity full spectrum light over its entire 4'x4' to 5'x5' flowering footprint. The wide 8-bar form factor helps to provide even coverage across your canopy.
This fixture is passively cooled and is built with high-quality 120-277V Philips Advance LED Drivers for optimum performance.
Features and Benefits
Product Notes
- Full spectrum with enhanced red for full cycle grows
- Wide 8-bar form factor for even canopy coverage
- 646-watt power draw to replace a 1000W HPS
- 1650 umol/s light output
- 2.6 umol/J efficiency
- 120-277V adaptable driver
- Compatible with Gavita Master EL1 and EL2 Gen 2 Controller for full lighting control
Product Specs
- The 120V and 240V cords include a plug. The 277V contains an open end cable (open wire leads).
- The E-Series adapter is only needed if you are connecting the LED fixture(s) to a controller. Otherwise, only a power cord is needed to operate the fixture.
THE GAVITA PRO 1650e LED
- Wattage Draw: 646 watts (120V), 629 watts (208-240V), 629 watts (277V)
- HPS equivalent: 1000 watts
- Spectrum: Full-spectrum white with enhanced red for seed to flower growth
- PPF (light output): 1650 umol/s
- PAR Efficacy: 2.6 umol/J
- Coverage area: Flowering footprint: 4'x4' to 5'x5' (16 to 25 sq ft), Vegetative footprint: 6'x6' to 7'x7' (36 to 49 sq ft)
- Dimensions: 44.1 x 44.1 x 2.1 in (112 x 112 x 5.3 cm)
- Product weight: 28.4 lbs (12.9 kg)
- Temperature Ambient: 68 ~ 86° F / 20 ~ 30° C for optimal functioning
- Operating/input voltage: 5.4 A (120V), 2.6 A (208-240V), 2.3 A (277V)
- Additional details: ETL certified; Can be connected to a Master controller with optional Gavita E-Series Adaptor
- Product includes: Light fixture [unless selected with options (i.e. cord, controller)]
- Recommended for: Commercial grows, Greenhouses, Home grows (rooms and tents), Soil, hydroponic, aeroponic, or aquaponic systems, Indoor farming or gardening
- Manufacturer's Warranty: 3 years (see product specs for details)
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED is a 1650 µmol s-1 fixture with an impressive efficiency of 2.6 µmol s-1 per watt. The Pro 1650e LED delivers broad coverage with its' 8 passively cooled LED bars. It can be used in a top light or multi-layer application. This powerful, full-spectrum light source is intended for full term plant growth from the vegetative stage to the higher light requiring bloom stage. This fixture is built with high quality 120-277 volt Philips brand drivers.
FORM FACTOR
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED is a project fixture by design. It installs right out of the box, reducing installation costs. Built around high-quality Philips-Advance drivers and top bin LEDs, the Gavita Pro 1650e LED breathes functionality and robustness. Its low height and external interface make it ideal for multi-layer cultivation. Various mounting systems (fixed brackets) are available. 4 adjustable Sun Grips light hangers are included with the fixture.
OUTPUT AND EFFICIENCY
With 1650 μmol s-1 total output, the Gavita Pro 1650e LED is a flowering fixture. It can achieve a high average ppfd of 1000 μmol s-1 m-2 on your crop. For mixed vegetative / flowering environments and to tune the amount of light to the cultivars you grow, the Gavita Pro 1650e LED can be dimmed to 50% without any loss of efficiency. The high fixture efficiency of 2.6 μmol s-1 per Watt enables you to finally leap ahead in reducing your HVAC capacity by about 30-40% compared to regular open HPS/MH solutions. The high efficiency and low powered LED configuration with 8 LED bars reduces the temperature of the LEDs – increasing the output and improving their light maintenance.
SPECTRUM
Our combination of white and red LEDs result in a relatively high ratio of blue light. Blue light keeps your crop compact in the vegetative stage and adds to an optimal morphogenesis and light interception by the plant. It maintains the photosynthetic system of the plant to optimize its photosynthetic potential and can shorten your flowering period. Blue light also triggers stomatal opening during the light period. The spread of red LEDs in the array guarantees a uniformly mixed spectrum on your crop at short distance. A full spectrum increases the quality of your crop.
EXTERNAL CONTROL
The Gavita Pro 1650e LED is compatible with the Gavita Master controllers. It is equipped with an external e-series (Repeater Bus) adapter to which you connect power and control signal. The Gavita repeater bus control interface allows you to install 500 fixtures per controller port by simply daisy chaining the fixtures. The fixture is universal for 120-277 volt systems. Depending on the required voltage, we supply a cable with 120V plug, 240V plug, or open-end cable for industrial voltages and custom installations. The cables are connected to the e-series adapter and the fixture by means of an industrial-grade “
I have a fluence and it's a great light. I also use an amare se 500 and a 4 qb288 with 8 cree 660nm xpe diodes per board. Runs at 600 watts. LEDs are far and away better grow lights than any hid. They yeild just as much or more they finish a little faster bring out more color run cooler and use less wattage. At this point there is really no reason to go hid except upfront cost. I'd gladly answer any questions you have beyond this.Anyone?
I have a fluence and it's a great light. I also use an amare se 500 and a 4 qb288 with 8 cree 660nm xpe diodes per board. Runs at 600 watts. LEDs are far and away better grow lights than any hid. They yeild just as much or more they finish a little faster bring out more color run cooler and use less wattage. At this point there is really no reason to go hid except upfront cost. I'd gladly answer any questions you have beyond this.
i am currently at the end of a run week 9 of 10 (first run w/leds) 2 HLG600Has anyone anywhere grown and smoked flower produced by LED and HIDs? What is the difference in quality?
I've asked that question over 10 times in the last few days on a couple different forums and not a single person has answered the question. What's up with that? Is LED flower quality a lot lower and nobody wants to talk about it?
I'd really like to try LED tech but there's no way I'm going to do it if everyone goes quiet when you ask about quality.
I heard(and saw his pics and few other LED grown bud pics to compare,but I don't flower indoors under leds and haven't tried expensive LED units for flowering )from one member here -az2000 that the LED flowered buds have less trichomes.He was refering to household bulbs in his post so I could be wrong about the quality "grow"units?By his opinion lack of UV or something is causing this...I 'm starting to think(about those trichomes more and more haha)it looks like it is true?But I just don't know for sure.Yes,they are getting fat and everything,and they look wonderfull but I would really love to hear other first hand experience on the trichomes?Any compartions,like the same strain under HPS and QB for example(because I wanted to buy quality QB for my small indoor one day)?Has anyone anywhere grown and smoked flower produced by LED and HIDs? What is the difference in quality?
I've asked that question over 10 times in the last few days on a couple different forums and not a single person has answered the question. What's up with that? Is LED flower quality a lot lower and nobody wants to talk about it?
I'd really like to try LED tech but there's no way I'm going to do it if everyone goes quiet when you ask about quality.
i am currently at the end of a run week 9 of 10 (first run w/leds). good production and they are very resiny and LOOKS like good quality.
I think my quality went up. I switched from gavita to hlg and my plants look frostier and increased density. Flavor may be subjective but I notice my chems in particular are chemmier and have been growing them more as that is a flavor I really like.Has anyone anywhere grown and smoked flower produced by LED and HIDs? What is the difference in quality?
I've asked that question over 10 times in the last few days on a couple different forums and not a single person has answered the question. What's up with that? Is LED flower quality a lot lower and nobody wants to talk about it?
I'd really like to try LED tech but there's no way I'm going to do it if everyone goes quiet when you ask about quality.
I've ran 1000w hortilux hps for over 10yrs now.Has anyone anywhere grown and smoked flower produced by LED and HIDs? What is the difference in quality?
I've asked that question over 10 times in the last few days on a couple different forums and not a single person has answered the question. What's up with that? Is LED flower quality a lot lower and nobody wants to talk about it?
I'd really like to try LED tech but there's no way I'm going to do it if everyone goes quiet when you ask about quality.
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