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No, they are very good for flowering, but you must remember that they are only around 180w of light output so one shouldn't aim to be getting much more than 180g from a single LEP 300.
They have already proven themselves to produce superior bud to hps when flowered on their own, just a small amount as the wattage is small.
Gavita will never market this device to perform the same as a 600w hps. Gavita are based on science unlike some of these other companies that offer Chinese made lights.
Even Gavita's website didnt seem to provide much info. Or maybe I missed it. I thought that plasma's would give a wider spectrum, but they seem to give off a very simulair spectrum as HPS. Or maybe I again didnt find the correct info.
Im super curious about these.
Loving the science part. It's the one thing quite blatantly missing from the entire marketplace.
I'd give scrog a swerve too. Been trying it out and it's definitely a skill to develop and mine are pretty crap :)
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If you look carefully at the light spectrum graph for HPS and MH bulbs, you'll find that while they provide some light all across the spectrum, most of their output is stacked up hard in yellow and greenish bands- fine for human vision, not so great for plants.
Looking closely at the LEP spectrum, you'll notice that it's a very nice curve, with few spikes or dips all the way across the entire spectrum. This means that the LEP is providing MORE light at most spectra than HPS or MH of similar wattage- the only exceptions being those aforementioned spikes in the marginally useful yellow and green bands.
This is why I'm so interested in these light sources. I still would very much like to see at least somewhat higher total output, but if these can be made more affordable, I'm sure I can find a way to make them work for me!
A company that actually likes and builds on its reputation for integrity is to be applauded- and supported in the marketplace. It isn't easy being the prime mover in a market such as this, because you know you're going to have a big fat target painted on your product for all others to beat with their designs.
Yeah... I know about spectrum, par, lumens, lux, inverse square law... and all that good stuff. I was looking for some information on the light. The spectrum curve you spoke of.... I didnt see one. I just saw a jagged one that looked identical to an hps curve.
And it's not really down to penetration or intensity that we do not suggest flowering with LEP alone it's just is only 300 w and less then 200 on the bulb. Gavita and my self are sonewhat realistic in our thoughts in that one can't get more out that what you put in.
Whilst the unit is rated as 300w, that is the power consumption, not light output.
The bulb it self is outputting around 180w I believe, whazzup can confirm this.
Makes the unit even more amazing when one is getting such results from such little light output.
Luxim have a 450w model in development which produces twice the light output of the 300 Lep with only an extra 150w.Is there some sort of a limit to the plasma technology that precludes higher wattage units? Is 300 watt LEP in some kind of a 'sweet spot', where it doesn't make sense to scale up? I'm just trying to get a better idea about the technology and where it's headed.
By the way, I invite you to have a look at another thread I'm running, and it may become clearer to you why I'm interested in higher output LEP systems.
I'm already doing a dual fixture setup this way, using 1000w MH and 1000w HPS. I'd like to run the LEP and see how it performs...
So I wonder how three 300w LEP's would flower. That would be 900w so would that then be comparable to a 1000w HPS? I remember reading that the Plasma alone returns well below average yeilds. Would be interesting for you to do a run with the LEP alone, to show exactly what it can do as a stand alone unit during flowering and not riding on the back of a HPS.And it's not really down to penetration or intensity that we do not suggest flowering with LEP alone it's just is only 300 w and less then 200 on the bulb.
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