The reason bag seed gets shit on is for the exact reasons we are discussing regarding cherry pie. Someone pulls seeds outta some bud, plants them, then calls it cherry pie and passes it along as cherry pie. The next grower does the same, and so on. What ya end up with is thousands of knock of cherry pies floating around that all have different genetic backgrounds, and different effects. Even colloidal silver made s1 seeds show different phenotypes. Granted, most of the phenos will be somewhat similar to the mother. I know every where I have lived, patients have seen and smoked cherry pie/gsc/lemon larry/blue dream/green crack and a few others enough to know what it should do, and what it should look like. If
the other reason IMO bad seed gets shit on is its just random and murky. Hell, this exact thread shows that lol. Someone claims one thing, someone else claims another. In the grand scheme of it all though, fire weed is fire weed From what I have seen growing for the time I have, high quality weed can definitely come from bagseed plants. Hell, I have a bagseed strain (Cherry pie "Harborside cut" x HSO Chem dog) that is definitely an awesome strain. That said, the strains that have left lasting impressions in my garden, the white whales of genetics, and the most earth shattering strains have always come from dedicated breeders who have spent years stabilizing, hundreds of rounds of selecting from large seed stocks, and a firm grasp of the traits they are looking for.
But as always, opinions are like ass holes.