Has anybody used the optic 650s?

Bbonez · Jan 3, 2021

Moe.Red said:
@Bbonez I didn't see what size tent you have or what you are doing in it? Is this single tent from germ to flower? What other systems are in place for heat etc?

I have a 10x10 I'm using for veg and flower. Using clones for now but want to get into some seeds later. For heat, I just heat up the room the tent it in. To cool down I have AC, for Humidity I have a dehu and a humidifier.

Moe.Red · Jan 3, 2021

Very nice!

I wish I had specific comparison info I could share with you to help decide. As you can see from the above thread there is no consistency and little honesty with vendors and measurement claims.

I have tried quite a few lighting systems. More than 20. I have always found that raw PPFD or PAR numbers, if they can be believed, are the first second and third thing you should look at when deciding. Where it gets tricky is what you are really looking for is PPFD/$ Both at time of initial purchase as well as ongoing electricity costs.

Between diablo and optic seems diablo is the winner. Between diablo and multiple spider farmers? Not sure on that one.

TripsRabbit · Jan 3, 2021

Bbonez said:
Are some of the diodes on the Diablo blocked by its mounting hardware?

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I bet it's where the driver hooks to the board.

Aqua Man · Jan 4, 2021

Nope not blocking the leds.

Goblinkiller · Jan 4, 2021

Good to read critical posts about optic. They are expensive so it needs to be challenged

Bbonez · Jan 6, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Nope not blocking the leds.

Are you using that light for flower, veg, or both? How do you like the results so far?

Aqua Man · Jan 6, 2021

Bbonez said:
Are you using that light for flower, veg, or both? How do you like the results so far?

Only been up maybe a week. Will be full cycle light. My previous was the HLG 600 v1 3000k. Also used full cycle. I'll have a better idea after next grow. But I have 0 doubt it will make a bit of an improvement. The light spread is way way better.

Bbonez · Jan 6, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Only been up maybe a week. Will be full cycle light. My previous was the HLG 600 v1 3000k. Also used full cycle. I'll have a better idea after next grow. But I have 0 doubt it will make a bit of an improvement. The light spread is way way better.

What will you adjust the intensity of the light to each step of the way?

How was your yield with the HLG 600?

Aqua Man · Jan 6, 2021

Bbonez said:
What will you adjust the intensity of the light to each step of the way?

How was your yield with the HLG 600?

Well I haven't really grown for yield since my 4x4. Last year was pretty much mother hunting. In the 4x4 was over 2lbs consistently.

With the new light on my next grow I am anticipating around 3lb from a 4x5 - 4x6 area. There are a lot of factors involved though not just light

Bbonez · Jan 6, 2021

Aqua Man said:
There are a lot of factors involved though not just light

I know I have a lot to learn before I see yields like that, I just didn't want to be limited by the light.

Did you run the 600 @ 100% during veg? 18 hours?

Aqua Man · Jan 6, 2021

Bbonez said:
I know I have a lot to learn before I see yields like that, I just didn't want to be limited by the light.

Did you run the 600 @ 100% during veg? 18 hours?

I run co2 so mine may be a bit higher but its not just the wattage it's the height also. The best way is to go by par. I use lux as it gets me more than close enough.

Seedling/rooted clones 10k or under.

Veg 18/6 15k-45k start low and work up 3-5k every few days to a week. Plants usually grow into the intensity increase and not often adjustments need to be made.

Flower 40-65k but I have had some strains take as high as 85k in flower. Remember I'm running co2.

I use light meter by my mobile tools dev.

Nonsmoker.grower · Jan 6, 2021

@Aqua Man how are running c02. Burner, tank,bag? Are you in a sealed room or tent?

JMcG · Feb 18, 2021

Damn, I was hoping you went with the 650s! I’d love to hear testimonials on that one.
it really doesn’t seem like a fair comparison to the Diablo though. The adjustable spectrum kinda puts it into a different class IMO.
anyone else running these?
Also, do they NOT have a UL or ETL listing?

Nonsmoker.grower · May 26, 2021

MIMedGrower said:
This sample light test is interesting. When you shop lighting for retail stores they give you all kinds of info.

for weed growing most companies just post an arbitrary graph and say some stuff. Lol

https://www.itlboulder.com/images/reports/2018Updated/ITL-HORTICULTURAL-SAMPLE-REPORT.pdf

Buddernugz · Jul 1, 2021

I’m rockin the 650s I have a grow along that I update almost every day if u wana see what it can do

Subhuman · Jul 9, 2021

I don’t have the 650s but did try the standard H. To me plants take off great and grow fast because of the added blue. But leaves were huge and hard to get out of way of new growth. Didn’t stretch much. In flower they stayed shorter and not as big of buds or as much branching probably due to not much red in light. And to much blue in flower. But are frosty at end. I did a side by side with another cheap bar light that has same count of 301h diodes no blue but triple the red count and way bigger buds and plant in general. That’s now my go to light in flower. The slim h is great for veg. And at very end of flower. The new S ones I’m sure would do great since you can adjust the red and blue. One thing I don’t like is the ones just coming out now the blue is tied to the 3500k and the reds to the 3k so no way to only adjust red or blue independently.
So you would be loosing half your light power if only running 3k with the reds. If you want more power you have to turn on the 35k with blues. What I like about the cheap lights I have is also the size. 54in instead of 41. so fits in 5x5 well and with my pure uv last few weeks I get what I’m after. Customer support was on the money. I had 2 issues and they handled it verry quickly. Just wanted to say that since I hear a lot of bad. Had a driver problem and they sent me a brand new light! And the lights run cool enough for hydro. Hope this helps some.

Thatdude696 · Aug 1, 2021

They have a store in Lansing now for Optic.

Buddernugz · Aug 2, 2021

I got the 650s with the new v2 red chips…… 8 week 3 day veg from seed coco dtw…..she out grew a 5x5 tent….. I hade to stuff her inside of a 4x8 becuase smell was becoming an issue but she’s still chugging along….. that added royal blue in veg is down right disrespectful as far as speed of growth……will say this though….50 more watts of red would be a game changer for that light……

JMcG · Oct 25, 2021

So...
I have been running two of the 650s for a few runs now. Seems like a great purchase so far except...
I had the power go off twice now during the lights ‘off ‘ cycle. When it came back on the lights came on too, even though the master controller had the timer set to be off.
customer service says I need to have back up power to the whole grow to avoid this. This doesn’t seem right. Anyone else seeing this?

Goblinkiller · Nov 29, 2021

JMcG said:
So...
I have been running two of the 650s for a few runs now. Seems like a great purchase so far except...
I had the power go off twice now during the lights ‘off ‘ cycle. When it came back on the lights came on too, even though the master controller had the timer set to be off.
customer service says I need to have back up power to the whole grow to avoid this. This doesn’t seem right. Anyone else seeing this?

Thats strange. It was new to me that it was expected with backup power. Not everyone can have aggregators running as well.

If you dont live in a place with a lot of power shortage it sounds strange.

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