some say theres no diesel in nycd thats its hawaiin x afghan ,,i'm sure thats what u said hempy,,
Soma has always said that he grew out some seeds a Rasta with dreads down to the ground and who hailed for NYC gave him and said was from a bag of Diesel buds. He crossed this to the Shantibaba Afghan/Hawaiian male he used to make a few of his lines and that was how he made NYCD, I think the initial release was the F1 and that he later did a BX to the Diesel. I think Sim's pheno comes from the inital release and is an Afghan/Hawaiian pheno as it looks like an Afghan dom and it's predominantly fruity with a diesel undertone, the Afghan/Hawaiian being the source of the intense fruitiness.
The reason why I say I think it is more likely that the 'Diesel' Soma used was Original Diesel/Diesel #1/Daywrecker/Headband rather than ECSD is that the OD/D#1/BW/HB is a more indica looking plant and it makes sense when you look at NYCD to think it's based on that rather than the big, stretchy, sativa leaning ECSD.
I'm speculating, but you have a look at Sim's NYCD and see what you think, looks too indica to be an ECSD hybrid to me, makes more sense for it to be an indica Diesel x Afghan Hawaiian.
We might get a clue when folks grow out the PA x ECSD, if those turn out like NYCD then that would suggest I'm wrong and crossing ECSD to an Afghan does indeed produce something like NYCD in structure.
nanna no im not talking about the ecsd cross la that you gave me to try its a new strain in amsterdam at the mo think its dna's new strain but i dont think its the real head band i think they just made new strain and called it the same name as an old elite strain as its got usa genetics init :bandit
That's been happening for a long time, stick a US elite name on another of their gravy train of polyhybrids and make the moolah. Then again, DNA might have taken the Headband cut and crossed it to one of their males, making it a Headband cross, if so, surely it is best to call it what it is rather than say it's just Headband, but perhaps that doesn't sell as many seeds?
Look at it this way, suppose some big name rapper name checks some obscure US Elite cut like Shoreline or Elvis in a song and that song becomes a big hit, you bet your ass that half the coffeeshops in the Dam and half the seed companies are soon selling Shoreline or Elvis, and it will be the same deal - they have just tacked that name onto the same old shit or maybe a slight remixing of the same old shit into yet another blah hybrid.
Right now you can buy Trainwreck and Cheese seeds that only have their name in common with the original cuts, made Arjan a load of money. There are loads of folks who wanna be rich and famous like Arjan so you betcha they will adopt his tactics and attach high value names to low value crap in fancy packets.
