Heavy 16 User Superthread

  • Thread starter Ever after
  • Start date
  • Tagged users None
Fishmaster42

Fishmaster42

Check out the GCH "Heavy16 cadillac special sauce vol. 2"
Hey I been reading this Cadillac juice pdf. Awesome man this is right up my alley. Where did you get this secret squirrel shit. My god man this is the real deal. I already use the Hygrowzime and the mykos along with the full Heavy 16 line, I can just imagine the terps that would come off this bud. Im start looking at the price of the rest of the stuff for next run. Fish
 
mandalaman

mandalaman

Just started a GG #4 DWC grow under an Amare SE20. Running the complete Heavy 16 line + OSA/28 and MammothP. Adding OSA first and mixing for extra long, then Mammoth followed by the recommended order on feed chart water comes out to pH 5.6 no adjustment needed. Starting with 0ppm RO.

Using Foliar 30/1/1 recipe
 
Therambler42

Therambler42

2
0
1
I'm looking too use the heavy 16 line with deep 6 roots , does that replace the heavy 16 roots? They don't look too be the same. I see a lot of the same stuff in the prime. Thanks everyone
 
oscar169

oscar169

Operation Dank
Supporter
Just started a GG #4 DWC grow under an Amare SE20. Running the complete Heavy 16 line + OSA/28 and MammothP. Adding OSA first and mixing for extra long, then Mammoth followed by the recommended order on feed chart water comes out to pH 5.6 no adjustment needed. Starting with 0ppm RO.

Using Foliar 30/1/1 recipe
Don't take this wrong BUT stop the OSA 28, TOTAL WASTE OF YOUR MONEY, We have run the test I will link you to where you can make your own silicon stock soultion, Please take 10 minutes read the whole thread look at the test results from the labs, You can make gallons of the Agsil 16H stock soultion and there is more plant available silicon and your going to buy a few pounds of this stuff for penny's on the dollar compared to OSA28 and you can makes gallons of your own OSA28 but way stronger, Lab Test have proved it. I have spent Thousands and Thousands over the years on the Aptus/Osa28 shit....:)
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/silicic-acid.74945/

Here is a place to order
https://customhydronutrients.com/co...2.html?zenid=ebbb558f7195cda95a15ae82bbc7fa3d
 
Last edited:
mandalaman

mandalaman

Don't take this wrong BUT stop the OSA 28, TOTAL WASTE OF YOUR MONEY, We have run the test I will link you to where you can make your own silicon stock soultion, Please take 10 minutes read the whole thread look at the test results from the labs, You can make gallons of the Agsil 16H stock soultion and there is more plant available silicon and your going to buy a few pounds of this stuff for penny's on the dollar compared to OSA28 and you can makes gallons of your own OSA28 but way stronger, Lab Test have proved it. I have spent Thousands and Thousands over the years on the Aptus/Osa28 shit....:)
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/silicic-acid.74945/

Here is a place to order
https://customhydronutrients.com/co...2.html?zenid=ebbb558f7195cda95a15ae82bbc7fa3d
Already on it my man! Thank you :)
 
masshole61

masshole61

Usually a super soil with teas no bottled nutes guy, but am finishing up my second grow with Heavy 16 and am really happy with the results! I like the set it and forget it nature of their products as I've used their full line (minus the foliar) with a few additives according their feeding schedule and am two weeks from finishing harvest. I guess i should include the additives which were photosynthesis plus, ful-power, modern microbes, sea green and rootamentary. Yeah lot of shit. But my plants thrived. Never ph'd or ppm. Just let'em have it, and they look great!
My question to you Heavy16 users is should I back off and water only for the next two weeks? Or just water and maybe an enzyme like Sfl-100?
All nutrient companies want you to feed all the way through
Looking for a nice fade....
 
MendoAdome

MendoAdome

Usually a super soil with teas no bottled nutes guy, but am finishing up my second grow with Heavy 16 and am really happy with the results! I like the set it and forget it nature of their products as I've used their full line (minus the foliar) with a few additives according their feeding schedule and am two weeks from finishing harvest. I guess i should include the additives which were photosynthesis plus, ful-power, modern microbes, sea green and rootamentary. Yeah lot of shit. But my plants thrived. Never ph'd or ppm. Just let'em have it, and they look great!
My question to you Heavy16 users is should I back off and water only for the next two weeks? Or just water and maybe an enzyme like Sfl-100?
All nutrient companies want you to feed all the way through
Looking for a nice fade....
You should be using the foliar
Always monitor pH Ec and vpd
Follow the h16 recipe and using finish in the last weeks (regarding the fall fade, see my thread and post on it freely for the advanced growing technique)

No need for enzymes now unless you plan on for lack of better terms an idiot and reuse your soil in an indoor environment.

Flush heavy 3x-5x volume and let dry and give a few days dark when they are dry choke out those bitches and enjoy them
 
MendoAdome

MendoAdome

Already on it my man! Thank you :)
Surpurb stuff add it first to solution and mix well. I prefer a more refined silicon on the nano scale preferably. Most Silica products except for a few like aptus lol and others are large insize and and be observed if you ever need to raise the oh of yours solution ever soo slightly
 
justsomeguy

justsomeguy

Plants grown on h16 are about as healthy as you can get. Adding anything beyond microbes and enzymes is probably counter productive. I used to add fasilitor when running the base at 8 mls with ro water and it made my stalks noticeably thicker. Now i just follow the chart at full strength with filtered tap water and i get the same bushy healthy plants for a lot less cost and hassle.

I pretty damn sure that enzymes do a lot more than breakdown dead roots. We only have a vague idea of how plants interact with and react to all the life and compounds in the rhizosphere. All i can say with certainty is that all of my loudest OG runs included a cellulase product. When i've dropped enzymes, the quality suffered. I never noticed a difference with other strains though.
 
MirrorZen

MirrorZen

Plants grown on h16 are about as healthy as you can get. Adding anything beyond microbes and enzymes is probably counter productive. I used to add fasilitor when running the base at 8 mls with ro water and it made my stalks noticeably thicker. Now i just follow the chart at full strength with filtered tap water and i get the same bushy healthy plants for a lot less cost and hassle.

I pretty damn sure that enzymes do a lot more than breakdown dead roots. We only have a vague idea of how plants interact with and react to all the life and compounds in the rhizosphere. All i can say with certainty is that all of my loudest OG runs included a cellulase product. When i've dropped enzymes, the quality suffered. I never noticed a difference with other strains though.
Enzymes are good only if your completely synthetic and don't introduce microbes or bennies.
Organic growers or partially organic utilize microbes like Caps packs or Mycos, and do with out the Enzymes because at that point they have such similar functions, it's redundant.

If you read the descriptions of each you will see only one clear difference which is Enzymes continue to eat while the bacteria or microbes will lock up and wait to be ingested by the plant.

Have to throw all this out there when you start thinking enzymes are somehow better than microbes, SO similar and microbes will replicate and eat your dead roots. This is something I learned from reading
a Jungle Boys interview then verifying through descriptions and functions of such (5 books, 2 Jorge Cervantes, 2 Ed Rosenthol, 1 random. I like paper between my fingers when I'm learning, knowing this site came after those purchases also)

In conclusion: Microbes can be very versatile and diverse (Trichoderma, Bacillius, Mycos , etc) unlike a formula of Enzymes. Microbes will also do basically everything Enzymes can do and replicate on top of that.
Enzymes < Microbial Life

Main Source: Cannabis Encyclopedia (Thank you Jorge Cervantes)

EDIT!!! Misread, you said anything BEYOND enzymes and microbes.
My bad, This is good information for any ol' farmer so I will leave it up instead of deleting it.
 
justsomeguy

justsomeguy

http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/5375/1/JSIR 64(11) 832-844.pdf

Check out the last paragraph on the third page.

The enzymes that dissolve dead roots into sugar are called cellulase. They are a product of certain trichoderma species that eat carbs and only produce these enzymes when there are no easily available sugars in the medium. Even if I put the right trichoderma in my rootzone, its just going to eat the sugars in the heavy prime and it will never produce the enzymes that my OGs respond to.
 
Last edited:
MendoAdome

MendoAdome

http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/5375/1/JSIR 64(11) 832-844.pdf

Check out the last paragraph on the third page.

The enzymes that dissolve dead roots into sugar are called cellulase. They are a product of certain trichoderma species that eat carbs and only produce these enzymes when there are no easily available sugars in the medium. Even if I put the right trichoderma in my rootzone, its just going to eat the sugars in the heavy prime and it will never produce the enzymes that my OGs respond to.
Yes and hygrozyme does not break down the roots
 
T

timmyTurner

9
5
3
I used to work with mendoadome, he doesn't even grow. He got fired from the hydro store for telling customers weird made up shit. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He also steals pics of other people's grows and claims them to be his.
 
MirrorZen

MirrorZen

I used to work with mendoadome, he doesn't even grow. He got fired from the hydro store for telling customers weird made up shit. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He also steals pics of other people's grows and claims them to be his.
Have you looked at half the ppl on here? Half of them don't grow and make up random shit ;)
 
Top Bottom