help me... i dont want to misrepresent one of my strains im growing and breeding.

[TreFarmer]

This is the Bubba-Da Snowman, male on left, female on right. Notice, the BKsnow has increased vigor, now to see how she performs at 12/12. Using this male for future crossing. He kept true to Bubba's growth style, cannot wait to do the BKSnow (Bubba-Da Snowman) X BKSnow (Bubba-Da Snowman)= Dubble Bubba-Da Snowman", and Katsu Bubba Kush X BKSnow (Bubba-Da Snowman)= Bubba-Dubble Snowman. Say that 10 times fast:)

 

[tattoojim]

I think she was ready a few shoots ago. :harvest:

If I were you id cut a few clones every 2-3 weeks. treat it like mowing the lawn. Which will keep your mom a manageable size and maintain all fresh healthy cuttings everytime. I hear soft tips cuttings are ideal and thats the way to get them.

Shes looking good and healthy.

thanks for the confermation..just wanted to make sure she was healthy enough. my last run on clones was 80%, im gonna try for a hundred % this time. im adding a new strain of clone to my room too(lemon og #18). realy excited to have clones from both of these strains..

 

[tattoojim]

trefarmer...ive read a bunch on using silver and it seems to b the best way to get good female seeds, its the thought of not b n able to smoke her when she is done lol. im gonna use all the info every one has handed out to me. and do the best to make my personal strain.

 

[AliasAO]

thanks for the confermation..just wanted to make sure she was healthy enough. my last run on clones was 80%, im gonna try for a hundred % this time. im adding a new strain of clone to my room too(lemon og #18). realy excited to have clones from both of these strains..

Thats the main reason I love the Farm, great advice, knowledge and there is always someone to confirm your suspicion when you are on the right track.

I just got that much needed help dealing with a few micro nute defs in my moms stable.

Congrats on adding a new strain to your personal Growers Arc ^_^

Ive gone a bit crazy myself in the past few months since Ive joined the farm.

I went from 1 strain which was my XJ13

to 7 strains all in about a months time.

Now Im sitting on:

XJ13
Purp Erkle
Purp Kush
Candy Kush
Sour Grapes
Fire OG Kush
Secret Recipe (seeds)

What I PLAN on doing is growing out a few secret recipes and picking out a strong male to stud with a female from each of my other strains, I also want to do a pure Secret Recipe back up seed run so Ill use the male to get a SR female pollenated as well..

Im also in your boat with the clone stats, I was at about 75-80% myself. But it was my very first time cloning so Im not to hard on myself and I did learn alot from the process.

Heres to both of us getting up to that 100% success rate.

CHEERS

 

[tattoojim]

Thats the main reason I love the Farm, great advice, knowledge and there is always someone to confirm your suspicion when you are on the right track.

I just got that much needed help dealing with a few micro nute defs in my moms stable.

Congrats on adding a new strain to your personal Growers Arc ^_^

Ive gone a bit crazy myself in the past few months since Ive joined the farm.

I went from 1 strain which was my XJ13

to 7 strains all in about a months time.

Now Im sitting on:

XJ13
Purp Erkle
Purp Kush
Candy Kush
Sour Grapes
Fire OG Kush
Secret Recipe (seeds)

What I PLAN on doing is growing out a few secret recipes and picking out a strong male to stud with a female from each of my other strains, I also want to do a pure Secret Recipe back up seed run so Ill use the male to get a SR female pollenated as well..

Im also in your boat with the clone stats, I was at about 75-80% myself. But it was my very first time cloning so Im not to hard on myself and I did learn alot from the process.

Heres to both of us getting up to that 100% success rate.

CHEERS

i feel you on all the strains that you have built up..

 

[tattoojim]

the bubba im working with plus...godbudxsweettooth,godbud fem,lemon og#18,kollosus,the mask f2,kollosusxsuperskunk,a bunch of good bag seed if there is such thing lol oh yeah a sage n sour too

 

[TreFarmer]

trefarmer...ive read a bunch on using silver and it seems to b the best way to get good female seeds, its the thought of not b n able to smoke her when she is done lol. im gonna use all the info every one has handed out to me. and do the best to make my personal strain.

Paint only one branch with the pollen to make only enough seeds to preserve the lineage.
After rooting/budding a clone and harvesting pollen:
1. Pick a nice healthy nugget towards the bottom to prevent too much unwanted pollination on lowers. Pick a prime "one" to pass "male" genes on to.
2. Remove plant to a neutral area (no plants) I like my tub, cause I can wash the whole area down easily after.
3. Using a small paintbrush paint one stigma at a time all the way down the female bud. I use a fiber mask to prevent accidentally blowing pollen around.
Cover the bud with a paper bag very carefully and twist tie it down. Leave for two-three hours, (only takes 20-30 minutes once pollination actually takes place) after this time I lightly mist the plant down with water. This stops active pollen from finding homes later. Avoid the paper bag. Wait 24 hours, mist down any flowering females in your grow (preventative measure). And carefully remove the bag, and spray the inside of the bag down with water. (this bag could still pollinate several hundred/thousand wanted or unwanted seeds so reuse or destroy)
Spray down the entire pollination area with water after plant has been removed.
Remember pollen is uber-tiny and can be taken and disbursed very easily especially through vents, so cover them. I disrobe and shower (lots o steam to "kill" pollen) and wash/change clothes before I actually walk back into the room after pollination. Any accidental seeds that may pop up in any female in this run would more than likely be this pollen.

 

[tattoojim]

Also, look into selfing, clone your mother, force flower with silver for male flowers. Pollinate her with her. Great beans!!

sry man i missed the part look in to selfing. thought this was something you were doing.

 

[TreFarmer]

sry man i missed the part look in to selfing. thought this was something you were doing.

HEHE I "self" rather frequently. But that's on another site:) LMAO

 

[tattoojim]

HEHE I "self" rather frequently. But that's on another site:) LMAO

lol the bud porn isnt good enough here for you...riu has a huge thread on c.silver

 

[TreFarmer]

lol the bud porn isnt good enough here for you...riu has a huge thread on c.silver

Thanks, I found another hormone, check out this site:

How It’s Done

First thing to understand is the whole process of making a feminized marijuana seed invloves NO male plants to pollinate. (weird right)

What breeders are doing to get these seeds involves a little work. They take a female plant and stress the girl out to the point she turns hermaphrodite. This is done with rough conditioning and a few chemicals. The most common chemical is silver nitrate witch has to be diluted with water (very carefully) then sprayed onto a female plant early into it’s flowering cycle. This helps force the female to produce small male flowers within the premature buds.

Now this is when that male flower will pollinate the female bud (it’s inside of) to start forming the seeds. The problem is these are not the best feminized seeds to grow with because they are from an abused parent.

So how they fix that problem is most breeders will take the pollen from the male flowers (on those plants) and use it to pollinate some other healthy mother plant, which has not been around any chemicals or harsh conditions.( Tip: week two of flowering is an optimal point to receive pollen for a feminized seed crop) Once they pollinate a room or flowering mothers a beautiful feminized seed crop will begin to grow. These seeds from the female plants will produce 99% feminized seeds. (when germinated)

There are also other ways to get feminized marijuana seeds. According to Dutch Passion Seed company they state that the growth of a male or female plant from seed, except for the predisposition in the gender chromosomes, also depends on various environmental factors that influence gender are:

* a higher nitrogen concentration will give more females.
* a higher potassium concentration will give more males.
* a higher humidity will give more females.
* a lower temperature will give more females.
* more blue light will give more females.
* Fewer hours of light will give more females.

They also say it’s important to start these changes at the three-pairs-of-leaves stage and continue for two or three weeks, before reverting to standard conditions. To find the info used from Dutch Passion go to http://www.dutch-passion.nl/index.php?p=feminized
----from this site----

 

[johnursery]

using hermi's to make feminized seeds will breed more hermi's, using col. silver to reverse a plant is far different from using plants that herm under environmental stress

 

[TreFarmer]

using hermi's to make feminized seeds will breed more hermi's, using col. silver to reverse a plant is far different from using plants that herm under environmental stress

Hey John, I'm not recommending using hermies. Just trying to post different techniques:) You r totally right..."using col. silver to reverse a plant is far different from using plants that herm under environmental stress"
I believe the stress they went on to discuss was, bending, snapping, branches etc. Probably for hormones not for hermie traits directly, like light leaks would cause. At least this is my take on it.
Originally Posted by AliasAO
Is that right? Does it not produce Hermie traits??
Have u found any negative effects in your gos at it??
Poted by Me:
If you use a stable F1 you should get stable offspring. Here is a article at another forum: Is this against the rules?? Oh well. I believe this is where MOST "feminized" seeds come from.

 

[johnursery]

sorry if i seemed short and snide in my coment, im just frustrated that SO many people are using hermis in there breeding projects and already alot of strains have a tendency to herm from old outdated breeding techniques...

its always better to use a plant that wont herm from any stress, when using somthing like silver your binding copper, inhibiting ethylene production in nature this never happens. so it is not something the plant genetically has a built in stress response for...

if bending branches could trigger the herm response then when someone is pruning there plants they could trigger the same response...

fem seeds can be stable but they have a reputation for herming this seems to seperate those breeders that use good fem breeding techniques with those that do not...

 

[TreFarmer]

sorry if i seemed short and snide in my coment, im just frustrated that SO many people are using hermis in there breeding projects and already alot of strains have a tendency to herm from old outdated breeding techniques...

its always better to use a plant that wont herm from any stress, when using somthing like silver your binding copper, inhibiting ethylene production in nature this never happens. so it is not something the plant genetically has a built in stress response for...

if bending branches could trigger the herm response then when someone is pruning there plants they could trigger the same response...

fem seeds can be stable but they have a reputation for herming this seems to seperate those breeders that use good fem breeding techniques with those that do not...

No problem at all. I understand and see the concern. I think the stress from bending etc. just causes hormones to develop that aid in self-propagation. Kinda like underwatering before cloning is said to increase B1 and make cloning quicker. The hormones themselves are not actually making it herm.
In my experience with breeding dogs, the more you stack good/bad traits the more they express themselves. So, if I have a female that has any hermie trait, and self it, it becomes much more likely to express hermie. If there is no herm. tendency, but by silver you force it, the offspring should have little or no chance of turning herm without forcing it. (I am going of reading not experience, I have never selfed a hermie dog:))