Well there looking a little better but for for their age it’s not good.

That “dandruff” you see needs to be looked at closer. Bet you a blunt you have pests. Now that the plants are a little bigger they will be able to sorta live with the pest but they will grow super slow and the buds will never develop properly.

Roots looked ok but again for their age, very under developed.

Your pots are ok but not ideal.

As everyone has said lights are super important, but with a seedling and real early veg almost any grow light will get them started. But if you want real buds, have sufficient lights.

I never could understand when people scream about watering schedules for soil. The plant should be growing so fast it changes the needs from week to week. Your schedule you spent all that time on now is useless because your in bigger pots with bigger plants. Just wait for the dirt to dry, then water the whole pot well. Wait, repeat.

The only schedule I follow is 4-6 weeks veg, 8-10 weeks flower.

put those lights on those seedlings no less than 18 in I keep mine at 24

Keep in mind you need four sets of permanent leaves before you can really lower those lights they're way too low they'll fry everything

Crystalbare said:

Well there looking a little better but for for their age it’s not good.

That “dandruff” you see needs to be looked at closer. Bet you a blunt you have pests. Now that the plants are a little bigger they will be able to sorta live with the pest but they will grow super slow and the buds will never develop properly.

Roots looked ok but again for their age, very under developed.

Your pots are ok but not ideal.

As everyone has said lights are super important, but with a seedling and real early veg almost any grow light will get them started. But if you want real buds, have sufficient lights.

I never could understand when people scream about watering schedules for soil. The plant should be growing so fast it changes the needs from week to week. Your schedule you spent all that time on now is useless because your in bigger pots with bigger plants. Just wait for the dirt to dry, then water the whole pot well. Wait, repeat.

The only schedule I follow is 4-6 weeks veg, 8-10 weeks flower.

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Hi, thanks for help.

The seedling i messed up, not for the first time or indeed the last i bet lol, but they are ok ish now and still slow growing, 2+ year i tried everything, different water, different soil, different cabinets, different lights, different seeds :(.

Looked and i can not find any bugs, done lots of reading on bugs, i should be able to see them with a jewelers loop if i have some, there is a few on the sticky yellow paper but that's to be expected ? its high summer next to a window, i will keep looking tho, its got to be something, oh there is some bit marks on the leaves that would of been pudding my cat, its like catnip to her.

Water schedules is for ppl to see that i'm not over watering as some ppl thought that at the start, plus maybe im doing something wrong, i dont see how but as i put before....weed is bloody easy to grow, how can i fuck it up for 2+ years.

My schedule use to be 8 weeks veg, topped twice and then 8 weeks flower...happy days.

If its the same thing as the last 2 years it will get worse, maybe then the symptoms will be easier to diagnose.

Thanks again for input, its much appreciated.

tall boys said:

put those lights on those seedlings no less than 18 in I keep mine at 24

Keep in mind you need four sets of permanent leaves before you can really lower those lights they're way too low they'll fry everything

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Hi ya, thank you for input.
Firstly i put the light to far away so seeding stretched, then i panicked and put the light to close so i crisped them up lol, so i know of what you speak :), I have backed the light of a tad see if that helps, cheers again. Bobbin

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Time, Date & Temp/Hum	Muffin	Cheese	Kush
9am 10/6	147g	134g after water 196g	132g after water 176g
9am 11/6 25c 49%	139g after water 172g	179g	160g
9am 12/6 26c 47%	159g	163g	150g
9am 13/6 28c 49%	153g	157g	144g
9am 14/6 29c 50%	147g	148g	139g after water 185g
9am 15/6 28c 42%	144g after water 192g	144g after water 204g	166g
9am 16/6 26c 45%	171g	189g	159g

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I fear your soil has gone hydrophobic if you're only giving your plant 1.5-1.69 ounces of water each time. Unless you're growing in a thimble, that's not enough to properly saturate the soil. What size thimbles are those?

Sunasun said:

I fear your soil has gone hydrophobic if you're only giving your plant 1.5-1.69 ounces of water each time. Unless you're growing in a thimble, that's not enough to properly saturate the soil. What size thimbles are those?

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Hi ya, thank you for input, As stated I water till small amount of run off, this is in general what I always do and have been advised to do on here, the pots are small as plants are small, will repot as plants grows, I have limited room, 66cm from base to light, the big pots I use are 17cm tall, experimented with larger pots but makes no sense for my set up as just just limits height of plant.

As many on here advised starting again as plants looked like a lost causes , now all 3 are not healthy but better then they was so I don’t think its watering or pot size…..but I don’t know, im here coz I cant work it out :(, I still think its a diseases type thing but nothing really fits so I don’t know lol, thanks again for input, cheers. Bobbin

bobbin said:

Hi ya, thank you for input, As stated I water till small amount of run off, this is in general what I always do and have been advised to do on here, the pots are small as plants are small, will repot as plants grows, I have limited room, 66cm from base to light, the big pots I use are 17cm tall, experimented with larger pots but makes no sense for my set up as just just limits height of plant.

As many on here advised starting again as plants looked like a lost causes , now all 3 are not healthy but better then they was so I don’t think its watering or pot size…..but I don’t know, im here coz I cant work it out :(, I still think its a diseases type thing but nothing really fits so I don’t know lol, thanks again for input, cheers. Bobbin

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What size pot are you growing in?

bobbin said:

Hi ya, thank you for input, As stated I water till small amount of run off, this is in general what I always do and have been advised to do on here, the pots are small as plants are small, will repot as plants grows, I have limited room, 66cm from base to light, the big pots I use are 17cm tall, experimented with larger pots but makes no sense for my set up as just just limits height of plant.

As many on here advised starting again as plants looked like a lost causes , now all 3 are not healthy but better then they was so I don’t think its watering or pot size…..but I don’t know, im here coz I cant work it out :(, I still think its a diseases type thing but nothing really fits so I don’t know lol, thanks again for input, cheers. Bobbin

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I haven't been on your thread for a while so if you have answered this before, my apologies ... but still, fill me in with the answer please.

What is your soil mix? Is it home-made? Are you re-using soil? You've been given some very good advice by a number of well respected growers yet you're still having issues. Let's dive deeper and look more closely at other things that could be causing your issues. Let's start by answering my questions on your soil mix. Please be detailed because so far, the right detail has either been left out or completely missed.

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I would agree to that statement. You can start by accepting what some of us have to say. Yes, it's lighting. That stretched stem shows your plants have been trying to find the light. The length of the stretch says that they really haven't found their happy growing grounds yet. Yes, its over-watering ... see the tattered leaf edges, the yellowing? That's rot due to wet feet. Fungus gnats kind of seal the deal there ... fungus gnats thrive when roots are rotting. And yes, even after an "up-pot, those pots are a terrible choice. They are way too shallow and will impede plant growth. They don't dry out evenly either which leads back to issue #2 ... overwatering/rotting leaf edges.

I'm not trying to be a dick. Mine and all others answers have been given with the hopes of helping you through this situation. However, you seem to have a handle on your problem .... Grown for 10 yrs? Doubtful.

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Delusional !!!!
I'm gonna be the one to tell this gentleman that he's definitely Delusional.

Read carefully the post I reply to for it has the truth inside.

Reading over this weirdness, there’s a lack of photos. There’s a lack of the original poster not wanting to actually answer anyone’s questions with any clear responses.
Also has a strange tendency to be rude to people that are trying to help.
After going over this, there’s a whole bunch of really good growers that are answering stuff here and it’s just beyond me that every answer seems to fall on deaf ears with this guy.
Now if I’m wrong here, let me know ill apologize @bobbin
Bc if this is just like simply a language barrier issue and the way that you speak then I could be wrong, but I’m starting to think that you’re trolling people because there’s like I said a bunch of people here that are bad ass at what they do and your lack of want, or openmindedness to take what they have to say and try to apply it is telling me that you don’t really want help saying that you water to a little bit of runoff or whatever doesn’t answer any of the core questions these folks are asking you and they’re not asking the questions to be rude or mean they’re asking them to try and figure out exactly what they can do to help. now with all that being said, if you would like help breakdown everything about your grow in a clearer and concise way from your lighting to your pot size, what you feed, how much you feed, and how often, what medium you grow in? If you say you grow with 150 W lamps does that mean that that’s a set 150 or is it modulated? Do you have the ability to go from 0 to 150 W with this lamp or is it adjusted by height?
These are all things that we need to know in order to be able to help you now if you take this is me being rude and answer in a way that isn’t proactive for your plants going forward then I don’t know what to say to you,

So how can we actually help you?

Try putting the seed before germination under your tongue for two minutes. This will align your and the plants dna so you should be able to FEEL what the plants need before they need it.

Thank me later

Sunasun said:

What size pot are you growing in?

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Hi again, the pots they are in now are 14.5cm tall, diameter at top 15.5cm, the pot before are 10cm tall, top diameter 10cm, cheers again. Bobbin

RoadKillSkunkHunt said:

I haven't been on your thread for a while so if you have answered this before, my apologies ... but still, fill me in with the answer please.

What is your soil mix? Is it home-made? Are you re-using soil? You've been given some very good advice by a number of well respected growers yet you're still having issues. Let's dive deeper and look more closely at other things that could be causing your issues. Let's start by answering my questions on your soil mix. Please be detailed because so far, the right detail has either been left out or completely missed.

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Hi again, it is in post somewhere that its Biobizz but sorry i don't think i put which one, its all mix one, here link https://www.biobizz.com/producto/allmix/
Years ago i did use to reuse soil but it cause a few issues so i stopped doing that.
No nutrients (we use the term nuts) used at the moment, but will and they are at the moment biobizz Bio-Grow & Biobizz Bio-bloom. hope helps, cheers again. Bobbin

RoadKillSkunkHunt said:

3 issues off the bat ....

1) See the long spindly main stem? Most common cause is not enough light intensity.

2) Containers aren't ideal. They are small and shallow and likely leading to wet feet issues.

3) OVER-WATERING! Your plants look like they are being watered too frequently and not being given enough time to dry out.

Here's the thing ... with all the other things you've tried unsuccessfully ... those three have been over-looked. They are also some of the most common issues growers run into.

Answer to #1 - Improve light intensity
Answer to #2 - Move to fabric pots. Some people like air pots but I don't. They are hard to water sometimes.
Answer to #3 - Invest in a cheap analog moisture meter like this

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bobbin said:

Hi again, the pots they are in now are 14.5cm tall, diameter at top 15.5cm, the pot before are 10cm tall, top diameter 10cm, cheers again. Bobbin

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So, a 2 liter pot is equal to 64 ounces. You should be watering about 12- 16 ounces each time not 1.5 as you stated earlier. Good luck. Water properly and they will grow.