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ABSOLUTELY FALSE. DISREGARD THAT BS. You not keeping the rhizo in check is ultimately a F U to the plants microbiology. Definitely need to keep the run off in veg around 750-800 and 1100-1200 in flower. Dry amendments are dope, but like I said if your ppms are off this can lock out other nutrients and cause different symptoms. Good thing u have pH meter! The soil tester will test ppm and pH of your soil!thats the thing mate, because im growing organically ive been told i dont need to bother with ppm etc, just been told to feed the soil with top dress dry amendments and water in.
Someone mentioned about me getting the bluelab soil tester. Ive already got the bluelab ph pen so i know ive been watering in at 6.3 / 6.5 everytime
Dolomite, citrus juice, distilled vinegar. I wanna know what’s specifically for pH up/down tho!
But adjustments to the rhizo takes time = slowed plant growth in my experience. The more consistent the environment and rhizo are the most consistent growth. I’ve noticed keeping my ladies in an consistent environment with minor temp flux at night and every other feed using recharge for the microbes have been killing it. Definitely had the pH issue in which I just got my new meter and over watering (Shout out Aquaman for the help!) but they seem to be doing sooo much better! And they’re loving the new Mars hydroI wouldn't bother phing the feed but rather for testing the runoff. If you have a decent water source the soil, microbes and plants will adjust the pH.
Purple stems could be genetic unless you see plant stress/necrosis
That’s what I’m saying, I usually use advanced nutrients pH line and wanna more to organic but I don’t wanna over feedi use bio bizz organics citric acid as ph down.
I used canna terra pro soil which is already charged and has a ph of 6 / 6.3 on the bag.
i added amendments to the soil before i transplanted into 7 gallon pots.
I added
60ml bat guano 1.10.1
60ml insect frass 3.2.3
60ml seaweed powder 1.0.1
60ml lavaworm and volcanic rock / no npk !
ive now found out that bat guano can also make soil more acidic so i have a gut feeling thats maybe whats happened but without a soil tester its hard to say.
Ive also got palm tree ash 0.1.30 so i could use to raise ph level slightly but this stuff is strong as hell so id probably only need to use 10ml top dress to raise soil ph slightly.
The problem is i dont want to assume these things and start overfeeding etc when i dont know the route cause.
But adjustments to the rhizo takes time = slowed plant growth in my experience. The more consistent the environment and rhizo are the most consistent growth. I’ve noticed keeping my ladies in an consistent environment with minor temp flux at night and every other feed using recharge for the microbes have been killing it. Definitely had the pH issue in which I just got my new meter and over watering (Shout out Aquaman for the help!) but they seem to be doing sooo much better! And they’re loving the new Mars hydro
Definitely signs of something up with uptake then! Good to know...what’s your environment temp? Watering should be around 67-69F no warmer than 72F tho. This will help the plants drink and transpire more!definitely seeing plant stress and necrosis.
Im growing a strain called hifi 4g and ive kept a mother plant of it aswell and the stems are perfectly green and strong.
I have to disagree in organic soil its common to see over 2000 ppm with no ill effects. The issue is that you have no way of know what the ppm makeup is. The ppm you listed are good if it makeup is available nutrient content but thats not the case with organics. Now with organically derived nutrients its different but he has a mix of organic amendments and organically derived nutes which are basically inorganic nutrients.ABSOLUTELY FALSE. DISREGARD THAT BS. You not keeping the rhizo in check is ultimately a F U to the plants microbiology. Definitely need to keep the run off in veg around 750-800 and 1100-1200 in flower. Dry amendments are dope, but like I said if your ppms are off this can lock out other nutrients and cause different symptoms. Good thing u have pH meter! The soil tester will test ppm and pH of your soil!
Send me a link to your light! Is it 600 TRUE watts? Or a cheap light? Organics usually don’t need to add more to fix a problem! Just to mediate what’s already there to fix the continuing growth!thats the thing, its my first time with this lumatek zeus pro 600w led and maybe my plants are loving it so much, they might have already used up all the nutrients in the soil. However, i just cant see it though as its only been in the soil for 3 weeks !
Maybe i could add some insect frass with npk 3.2.3. Nothing too strong and has calcium and bits and bobs in it, aswell as chitin.
This is the stuff....
Ecothrive Charge | Ecothrive - Exceptional Organic Products
The original and best selling biostimulant Charge! Add to any coco or soil blend for explosive growth and a higher yielding crop. Professionals use charge!www.ecothrive.co.uk
ABSOLUTELY FALSE. DISREGARD THAT BS. You not keeping the rhizo in check is ultimately a F U to the plants microbiology. Definitely need to keep the run off in veg around 750-800 and 1100-1200 in flower. Dry amendments are dope, but like I said if your ppms are off this can lock out other nutrients and cause different symptoms. Good thing u have pH meter! The soil tester will test ppm and pH of your soil!
Send me a link to your light! Is it 600 TRUE watts? Or a cheap light? Organics usually don’t need to add more to fix a problem! Just to mediate what’s already there to fix the continuing growth!
I have to disagree in organic soil its common to see over 2000 ppm with no ill effects. The issue is that you have no way of know what the ppm makeup is. The ppm you listed are good if it makeup is available nutrient content but thats not the case with organics. Now with organically derived nutrients its different but he has a mix of organic amendments and organically derived nutes which are basically inorganic nutrients.
Totally see what you mean. But this is also why I encourage more organic growers to do soil testing. Not too hard just can be intimidating. This will give you the soil make up, and also that blue lab soil pen will help! 2000ppm can be seen you are right! The plant may not be using all 2000ppm tho so the uptake of nutes is really in that 1100- to maybe max 1500ppm if it’s a hungry strain (flower ppms) similar to a coco force feed uptake. Organic derived nutes can definitely have synganic traits as well in terms of how the work in the rhizoI have to disagree in organic soil its common to see over 2000 ppm with no ill effects. The issue is that you have no way of know what the ppm makeup is. The ppm you listed are good if it makeup is available nutrient content but thats not the case with organics. Now with organically derived nutrients its different but he has a mix of organic amendments and organically derived nutes which are basically inorganic nutrients.
Word okay! So then atleast that’s not another limited factor!no its a genuine light to be fair, it cost me £800 !! So its not one of those cheap chinese ones
Heres a link.....
Lumatek Zeus Pro 2.9 LED Grow Light - 600W | GroWell
Lumatek Zeus Pro 2.9 LED Grow Light - 600 Watt. 2.9μmol per Watt, 1770μmol per Second. Latest Development in LED Lighting Technology. Highest Performance on the Market. Top Quality Diodes from Lumiled & Osram. Low Profile Fixture.www.growell.co.uk
no its a genuine light to be fair, it cost me £800 !! So its not one of those cheap chinese ones
Heres a link.....
Lumatek Zeus Pro 2.9 LED Grow Light - 600W | GroWell
Lumatek Zeus Pro 2.9 LED Grow Light - 600 Watt. 2.9μmol per Watt, 1770μmol per Second. Latest Development in LED Lighting Technology. Highest Performance on the Market. Top Quality Diodes from Lumiled & Osram. Low Profile Fixture.www.growell.co.uk
Definitely signs of something up with uptake then! Good to know...what’s your environment temp? Watering should be around 67-69F no warmer than 72F tho. This will help the plants drink and transpire more!
Definitely, and I’m terms of what me and @Aqua Man are talking about, you can test your soil if you’re deep into Organics to tell you soil make up in ppm. It’s extensive but worth it. Easiest/cheapest way is to slurry test your soil once a week and keep your ppms consistent without overwatering.ok so you’d suggest definitely getting the bluelab soil tester / ppm kit ? How can i measure whats going in before though because i dont really use the dry amendments for teas, i top dress. The only tea id make is using worm castings 200ml in 5 gallon bucket aerated for 24hr with 1tbsp per gallon of molasses and 1/2 tbsp epsom salts per gallon
It's a true 600 and good quality light.Send me a link to your light! Is it 600 TRUE watts? Or a cheap light? Organics usually don’t need to add more to fix a problem! Just to mediate what’s already there to fix the continuing growth!
Definitely, and I’m terms of what me and @Aqua Man are talking about, you can test your soil if you’re deep into Organics to tell you soil make up in ppm. It’s extensive but worth it. Easiest/cheapest way is to slurry test your soil once a week and keep your ppms consistent without overwatering.
We are all always learning! It honestly helps me to help others you know? Aqua and a few other inspire me to keep learning! It always cool bc people can debate and talk things without it being an ego trip! You know how the industry gets! But I would wait tbh. If it’s an issue now doing more to the plant can stress/kill it. If it’s an excess nute build up you should flush before flowering. The veg nutes in flower can create pockets and/or lock out other nutes during flowerbrilliant, thanks to you and aquaman for the help and advice, really appreciated
i’ll probably be back on here when the poor fuckers start dying on me
Do you think if i switch to flower now, it would help eat up excess of nutes or will it make it worse ? Should i hold in veg until i resolve the issue ?
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