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Solis Tek has that splitter for 2 6's off the 1K's..I bet it will make them run hard though...I'd like to try one for sure. Would you buy all 600 watt ballasts?..or just all 1k's and switch the watts? I'm thinking the ground rules..are going to be the same comparison for smaller rooms..as well as big rooms, if ya think about it. Like, do I wanna run 6 1k's, or do I wanna run 10 6's?
The answer might be, if I'm only growing tops of canopies and don't need to worry about penetration of a 1K...maybe I can stretch the square footage a tiny bit? And would it matter which bulbs..maybe not.
What's you're thinking?..why do you think 6's will fair better?
Your putting together a 50k grow op and your asking about 1k's and 600's........OK
Your putting together a 50k grow op and your asking about 1k's
My only personal experience is with 1000's. My partners in this venture currently only use 1000's now for their personal rooms and both of them work in what would be considered a "co-op" that has over 300 1000's running. I've seen tons and tons of threads about 600 vs 1000'. I don't really see the need as I have never used them myself but but after reading I couldn't help but wonder if there is a difference in yield that anyone has experienced setting up 600's vs 1000's the way I had explained in my first post. Basically using the same amount of watts and the same footprint. Just cramming the 600's tighter together and obviously keeping them at the recommended height from the canopy. I believe is 30 cm. So any shared experiences would be appreciated. Cheers!!!Solis Tek has that splitter for 2 6's off the 1K's..I bet it will make them run hard though...I'd like to try one for sure. Would you buy all 600 watt ballasts?..or just all 1k's and switch the watts? I'm thinking the ground rules..are going to be the same comparison for smaller rooms..as well as big rooms, if ya think about it. Like, do I wanna run 6 1k's, or do I wanna run 10 6's?
The answer might be, if I'm only growing tops of canopies and don't need to worry about penetration of a 1K...maybe I can stretch the square footage a tiny bit? And would it matter which bulbs..maybe not.
What's you're thinking?..why do you think 6's will fair better?
I'm not the grower. Just looking for some outside opinion so I can play devils advocate with the grow team and make sure they (we) are as efficient as possible. This is a chat forum where people ask questions no??
Any better yields from the 6's would be negligible at best imvho. Euro and Canadian growers have been big proponents of 6's..but I see all the big shows converting to 1k's, over-all. Maybe, look into double ended bulbs like gavita
Thank you for your response. This is exactly what I was looking for.With the style in which you grow (lollipopped indica canopy) 600w would work awesome! 600w have weak penetration but in your case that's not a factor because your only trying to grow one level of giant buds in a perfect canopy. What foot print and reflectors are you looking at for the 83 lamps?
I'm not the grower. Just looking for some outside opinion so I can play devils advocate with the grow team and make sure they (we) are as efficient as possible. This is a chat forum where people ask questions no??
I can totally respect that my man.yes, but in honesty, our community is kept pretty tight, even though its publicly visible. The amount of times that a new guy joins and starts asking how to run his 50+ light grow when its clear that he/she doesnt have a clue of what they are talking about. its almost insulting to the guys on here that have been posting journals for years and sharing knowledge. I myself wont tell you shit unless i feel your contributions here are worth my 2 cents... so u might get a response like "fuck HID lights, rock all t5s man!" So what im trying to say is, if you want the farm to give back, you must give some first. Although, some of the heads like walterwhite, natural, donmekka, and altitude are solid, its cool as fuck that they are throwing you some of their personal opinions.
anyways, sounds like you have a solid team put together and they know what they are doing so imo, fuck the devils advocate theory and give your growers what they ask for.
Z
Sorry. Maybe "devils advocate" was the wrong phrase here. I'm not looking to argue with my partners or prove them wrong. They are my best friends. Just trying to cover all the angles and educate myself along the way. I only have 1 chance to get this right and efficiency is of the utmost importance..........my advice is to hire good people and stay outta their way. if anything, spend your time helping to facilitate their work, not playing "devils advocate."
if you honestly feel the need to jump in and play devil's advocate and you come to an internet forum for advice from strangers it's symptomatic of something else going on . . . either you don't have people that you trust to do the best job or you, for whatever reason, feel the need to express knowledge above your abilities. in either case, it's doesn't sound like a good situation.
and, like altitudefarmer touches on, the issue that you raise is not as simple as "600w vs 1k." a great growing environment is a combination of many factors that all work together. it's much more about the gestalt than about the wattage of a lamp. in simple terms, there are cases where a 600w lamp solution is better than a 1kw lamp solution and visa versa. so trying to play the "devils advocate" by focusing on this one element only demonstrates a lack of understanding to those who really know design.
ADD: lol. it seems that Theoneandonly Z and i were trying to write just about the same thing at the same time. he's apparently faster on the keyboard and the "post reply" button.
600 are in theory more efficient as in lumens per watt.but big plants need big lights imo so if your growing plants over 5 feet tall go with the big lights.if your growing short stuff and trimming off the bottom branches you can do real well with 600's and get about 30" of productive canopy.Sorry. Maybe "devils advocate" was the wrong phrase here. I'm not looking to argue with my partners or prove them wrong. They are my best friends. Just trying to cover all the angles and educate myself along the way. I only have 1 chance to get this right and efficiency is of the utmost importance..........
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