Horizon: Cannabis: The Evil Weed?

[thc4sim]

If this has already been posted, i could not find it!!. lol

BBC2 in the UK from now - 9.00pm

The Blurb:
Cannabis is the world's favourite drug, but also one of the least well understood. Can cannabis cause schizophrenia? Is it addictive? Can it lead you on to harder drugs? Or is it simply a herb, an undervalued medicine? Addiction specialist Dr John Marsden discovers that modern science is finally beginning to find answers to these questions. John traces the cannabis plants birthplace in Kazakhstan; finds the origins of our sensitivity to cannabis in the simple sea-squirt; and finds out just what it does to our brains.

 

[Arti.chokes]

Just in time, thanks thc4sim:hi: Arti

 

[FastForward]

Cheers - I've got it recording on the skybox now. I can almost guarantee 60 minutes of government propaganda....

 

[jah_hoover]

Its so funny that 19yr dude hearing voices:drunk lol and then thinking he is Jesus, he wasnt smoking weed lol it must of been crack.


Anyways it was a good doc:character0050:

 

[logic]

What a load of shit, but hey its the bbc lol so i didnt expect anything else

 

[Green81]

yea same old arguments being said,wasnt that bad of a documentary i suppose.. California has the right idea..

 

[wambam123]

did anyone see the state of the spliffs they were smokin? and i really must find that farm and burn it down just like they would do likewise.

 

[FastForward]

I haven't watched it yet (but I'm sitting here with sticky fingers from trimming - figured it was a better use of the time :)) - but I'm guessing it was a few case studies showing people who smoked weed and then suffered some form of psychosis. I'm not disagreeing with their findings or the facts, but that's not an argument for keeping cannabis either illegal or class B. It's just scaremongering and propaganda. No kids under 18 should be smoking weed anyhow imho....but education is the answer not restricting access. Just telling someone you can't have something just makes them want it more....but if you can convince them it's a bad idea until 18 you've got a much better chance...

 

[Green81]

Well said FF, i think anyone under 18 should not be given the chance to take marijuana.

 

[FastForward]

Right...I've just watched it. Actually, I take back what I said about govmt propaganda. That was actually a really well made film....balanced, not fearmongering and as about as real as you're likely to get....and couched in some solid science from proper institutions. I was definitely impressed. A few interesting observations:

1) GW Pharma's Sativex is essentially honey oil suspended in a delivery solution! They use ethanol. If it's good enough for them, it's great enough for me......QWISO here I come!!

2) BIG DANKAGE!! Did you see that growroom? Kind of sog/scrog style. Droolworthy.

3) CBD as an antipsychotic. Found this really fascinating....and THC degrades into CBD if I remember correctly, so early harvested vietbong weed is likely to be all THC and no CBD (no ambers). And seeing as those guys are selling to the world, there's more likelihood of that gear getting into young hands....

Really an interesting programme.....recommended imho.

 

[DR. nick]

any chance of a link to the piece?

 

[British_Hempire]

Right...I've just watched it. Actually, I take back what I said about govmt propaganda. That was actually a really well made film....balanced, not fearmongering and as about as real as you're likely to get....and couched in some solid science from proper institutions. I was definitely impressed. A few interesting observations:

1) GW Pharma's Sativex is essentially honey oil suspended in a delivery solution! They use ethanol. If it's good enough for them, it's great enough for me......QWISO here I come!!

2) BIG DANKAGE!! Did you see that growroom? Kind of sog/scrog style. Droolworthy.

3) CBD as an antipsychotic. Found this really fascinating....and THC degrades into CBD if I remember correctly, so early harvested vietbong weed is likely to be all THC and no CBD (no ambers). And seeing as those guys are selling to the world, there's more likelihood of that gear getting into young hands....

Really an interesting programme.....recommended imho.

Hey FF, some good points there.

Point 1 about sativex is also true of the pre-1927 cannabis medicines, these were also solvent extracts, such as this one from Parke-Davis:

on number 3 though, let me correct you slightly:

THC and CBD production is controlled by a pair of alleles, Bt and Bd, Bt plants are high in THC, Bd ones high in CBD. You can get Bt plants, Bd plants and Bt/Bd ones that have both alleles. Nearly all modern drug cannabis is Bt only, it had been selected for THC production only as CBD isn't psychoactive, it doesn't get you high, it has other beneficial effects, but getting you high isn't one of them. Despite what some seed companies claim, you will never find more than a miniscule amount of CBD in any modern drug line. The place to find Bd plants that produce CBD is in landraces and cultivars that haven't been worked by man for THC production. Moroccan hashplant lines often had both Bt, Bd and Bt/Bd plants, this is why Moroccan hashish often has some CBD in it, another place where CBD plants still exist is in Japanese landraces.

THC does not degrade into CBD, it degrades into CBN through oxidisation. Leaving a plant past a third amber doesn't mean more CBD, it means more CBN.

 

[British_Hempire]

Here's the link to the BBC programme on their online service, it's only available to people in the UK so folks elsewhere will have to use a UK based proxy service to view it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hhmd1/Horizon_Cannabis_The_Evil_Weed/

 

[thc4sim]

LOL BH you not been too sleep again!!!

It was kind of interesting, some of the stuff i agreed with,
But the guy hearing loads of different voices, i would say he was pre-destined to be fucked in the head before he had ever touched weed!! they went on and on then said that they could not even proove it has anything to do with weed!! lol

Yea that was a nice growroom they had set up!!, not to the scale of shanti's but big enough...

:bong-hits:

 

[Notoriousskunk]

guys wat the fuck i herd about this last nite from a mate and i just found it on bbc iplayer if u wanna c it jus search cannabis and you will c it , gunna watch it and get bac to you all

Peace

N$

 

[jah_hoover]

LOL BH you not been too sleep again!!!

It was kind of interesting, some of the stuff i agreed with,
But the guy hearing loads of different voices, i would say he was pre-destined to be fucked in the head before he had ever touched weed!! they went on and on then said that they could not even proove it has anything to do with weed!! lol

Yea that was a nice growroom they had set up!!, not to the scale of shanti's but big enough...

:bong-hits:

I hear voices every time i smoke weed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and its usually the wifes voice saying roll another one up :bong-hits:

Lmfao

 

[British_Hempire]

Actually i had a proper sleep last night, went to bed at 5.15pm, out like a light, then slept like a log thru to 5.35Am, first decent kip I've had in a week! lol

 

[spanishped]

interesting programme. Couldnt believe my eyes when they showed the medical marijuana shop in California - that was a proper sweetie shop!!!!! want one!!!!!!!

 

[Notoriousskunk]

forget kali you c the farm in the uk country side (thats my dream) lol
they always use f'd stoners to represent us to make us look bad plus all the decent stoners probly dident want to be broadcasted on bbc lol
hearing voices he was determined to be fucked n e ways, and he looks like a nutter just cause mental illness does not run in you family doesn't mean you cant have mental illness and wat the fuck is young kids smoking drugs for n e ways, lol i started smoking wen i was 18 so my brains is ok lol

do you recon this program was a positive for cannabis or a negative because i aint sure in my mind?

i hope this is allowed on here ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hhmd1/Horizon_Cannabis_The_Evil_Weed/) go to this link if u havent seen it and tell us wat you think

Peace

N$

 

[Trillion]

i thought what was said remained fairly objective, very good but the inclusion of the depressive loner and the schizophrenic teenager pre-supposes their conditions were induced by cannabis. When other reasons, obvious with the recluse and less so with the teenager, are clearly not explored. Also I was happy with the information given about CBD the non-smoking public would have otherwise not been aware of. Overall I think it could have been alot worse....