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Lot of the Cali clubs hve shut down recently due to the feds. Good riddance.
Not sure why there's animosity between growers and dispensaries. I have always viewed growers and dispensaries as partners and not competition.
As for the market, I don't think it's any worse or better than last year. We're at the peak of supply right now and market prices reflect it. Plus, with the holiday season coming up, the struggling economy, and universities about to go on break, demand is down.
A+ stuff will always sell. You just may have to split it up instead of one place picking up multiple P's at once.
low balling growers - renaming strains - overcharging patients - only offering consignment
yeah no idea where that animosity comes from - lol
low balling growers - renaming strains - overcharging patients - only offering consignment
yeah no idea where that animosity comes from - lol
I have to respectfully disagree and argue for the dispensaries on a couple of points.
ripping off patients: 100% markup is the bare minimum for any kind of retail store. For other retail industries, such as clothing, the markup is 250-300%. The dispensary has a lot of overhead to run the place. Weedmaps, for example, if you want to be feature listed, will cost you over $5k a month. Some of the dispensaries that are making a lot of money are often cutting side deals, off the books, which is most likely illegal. I have seen the books of some 100% legit dispensaries and they are barely making it.
renaming strains: it's a pure marketing thing, but I do find it a bit offensive especially if you have grown something from seed or bred the strain yourself. I have to agree with this point.
consignment: i'm on the fence with this one. In almost all inventory-based business, net-30 to net-90 is common with wholesaler/manufacturer to retailer. If this is truly going to evolve into a legal business, net-30 will have to be commonplace. Right now, all the dispensaries that do consignment will often pay back in 7 days or less.
selling meds with mold, mildew, toxic chemicals: isn't that more of a grower problem than a dispensary problem?
A lot of dispensaries are very "liberal" when it comes to the stated taxable sales and the amount of sales tax they pay to the Board of Equalization, but that's common practice with almost all small businesses. As for fronts for organized crime, this is a symptom of the drug war and the current "grey area" of semi-legalization-whatever-the-fuck that we're in.
IMO this infighting I see between grower and dispensary and sometimes between grower to grower (ie socal indoor growers versus old school emerald triangle growers) is self defeating if your overall goal is to see the eventual decriminalization of marijuana and the end to this ridiculous "war" on drugs. This is my prespective; think globally, act locally.
Respectfully
I have to respectfully disagree and argue for the dispensaries on a couple of points.
ripping off patients: 100% markup is the bare minimum for any kind of retail store. For other retail industries, such as clothing, the markup is 250-300%. The dispensary has a lot of overhead to run the place. Weedmaps, for example, if you want to be feature listed, will cost you over $5k a month. Some of the dispensaries that are making a lot of money are often cutting side deals, off the books, which is most likely illegal. I have seen the books of some 100% legit dispensaries and they are barely making it.
renaming strains: it's a pure marketing thing, but I do find it a bit offensive especially if you have grown something from seed or bred the strain yourself. I have to agree with this point.
consignment: i'm on the fence with this one. In almost all inventory-based business, net-30 to net-90 is common with wholesaler/manufacturer to retailer. If this is truly going to evolve into a legal business, net-30 will have to be commonplace. Right now, all the dispensaries that do consignment will often pay back in 7 days or less.
selling meds with mold, mildew, toxic chemicals: isn't that more of a grower problem than a dispensary problem?
A lot of dispensaries are very "liberal" when it comes to the stated taxable sales and the amount of sales tax they pay to the Board of Equalization, but that's common practice with almost all small businesses. As for fronts for organized crime, this is a symptom of the drug war and the current "grey area" of semi-legalization-whatever-the-fuck that we're in.
IMO this infighting I see between grower and dispensary and sometimes between grower to grower (ie socal indoor growers versus old school emerald triangle growers) is self defeating if your overall goal is to see the eventual decriminalization of marijuana and the end to this ridiculous "war" on drugs. This is my prespective; think globally, act locally.
Respectfully
Sorry man but wherever you get your info from, sucks. I have been a rep/buyer for multiple retail establishments. 100% is normal markup? 200-300% for clothing??? Wtf man? Your numbers are so far off it's not even funny. The MAX markup you will ever see on clothing or most retail environments is 75%. Clothing? You think clothing store owners are rich? Lol!! The max markup in most clothing is 50% MAX. So yes a 50% markup seems ok for a dispensary but more than that is highway robbery.
Nutes and bennies are marked up 1000%. LOL.
well its good to see somebody has had a good experience with the clubs
If you're friends with any hydro shop, you can ask for the sunlight supply/hydrofarm/R&M wholesale price book. The markup for nutrients is routinely 100% to 150%.
I no longer support legalization in any way, shape or form. Why? The Hemp Farming Bill just passed here in California in combination with the new patents on pot being granted to big pharma.
Chimeric marriages will lead us to a new monster that we never could have imagined. Once it's actually "legalized" WE won't be able to grow for ourselves, just like it used to be with tobacco. I'm sure this is the way we're headed, for as long as we live in a state where farmers can't save their own seed without permission.
No legalization. Decrim.... possibly, but no legalization. I'd rather we keep it to ourselves than let an outfit like Bristol-Meyer Squibb marry an outfit like Monsanto, and that *is* what's coming down the pipeline.
Myopia. We haz it.
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