How much calmag should i add with my tap water

[Ph 007]

My tap water is 80ppm

I usually add calmag and take my take water to 200ppm Then add my feed

I'm growing in canna coco using canna coco nutrinats full line a&b , cannyzm, rootonic , some growers are good others not so good usally gwt a fight at the start but most the time lately i win the battle.


Today i managed to find out what exactly is in my tap water, and was hoping someone could tell me if I need so much calmag if any at all.

 

[oldskol4evr]

80 is pretty low,if it was me i would add another 30 on top of the 120 ,making it 230 ppm when done,i have hard water so i dont add any,but when im starting seeds or cuts,i use ro water and stay on the low side using 150 ppm of cal mag and increase over feeding,when i have 3 sets of full leaves im up to 250 ppm of cal mag.
then when i have 4 sets of full leaves i start half and half tap and ro,until i get to around 450 ppm ,basically a vegging plant then i use my tap water,mine at tap is 315 ppm with 7.2 ph.
once i start with tap water i can start using bloom more from home depot,0-10-10 i use it as ph down,by the time i have my ph down to 6 im at my feed level of 750 for full veg plant,when i use the fish too i take it to 900 for a max rest of grow,saves money and still does job,fish emulsions and 0-10-10 for the whole coco grow. when i get about 2 weeks to harvest i start dropping back down a little at a time,by harvest time ,im using ro water and cal mag again and running 250 ppm,cure is quick easy and dont taste like hay,plant uses all the nutes up and fades

 

[Ph 007]

80 is pretty low,if it was me i would add another 30 on top of the 120 ,making it 230 ppm when done,i have hard water so i dont add any,but when im starting seeds or cuts,i use ro water and stay on the low side using 150 ppm of cal mag and increase over feeding,when i have 3 sets of full leaves im up to 250 ppm of cal mag.
then when i have 4 sets of full leaves i start half and half tap and ro,until i get to around 450 ppm ,basically a vegging plant then i use my tap water,mine at tap is 315 ppm with 7.2 ph.
once i start with tap water i can start using bloom more from home depot,0-10-10 i use it as ph down,by the time i have my ph down to 6 im at my feed level of 750 for full veg plant,when i use the fish too i take it to 900 for a max rest of grow,saves money and still does job,fish emulsions and 0-10-10 for the whole coco grow. when i get about 2 weeks to harvest i start dropping back down a little at a time,by harvest time ,im using ro water and cal mag again and running 250 ppm,cure is quick easy and dont taste like hay,plant uses all the nutes up and fades

I might try taking my tap water to 150 ppm then then add my feed see how what goes then top it to 250ppm of calmag is 150.don't help.
I had 4 small plants in1 litre pots,. Out of clone machine good roots loved.into that 1 litre pot , calmag 200pm feed till hit 500ppm water to.run off next day loked loke shit could believe how quick problems showed up, then I watered to.run off again no calmag just a&b and cannyzm at 500ppm and they perked up in 2 / 3 hours not great but looked better, if had 2 grows no calmag and no problems and other with calmag and problems and no problems lol can't tell what's going on

Here are some.pics.

They where in clonner spray machine
Good roots on 200-300ppm just a&b no calmag as never needed it with the machine , they where very healthy going well nice and green healthy looking
And pup.into coco and literally next day the looked like this
Well these pics are after the feed with no calmag about 3 hours later they did look more droopy, see the leaves some sort defficciantcys showing

 

[Aqua Man]

I don't see CaCo3 (calcium carbonate) or magnesium, find that odd. But good new is they only use chlorine so it can be off gased by letting sit for 24 hrs and aerating.

 

[Ph 007]

I don't see CaCo3 (calcium carbonate) or magnesium, find that odd. But good new is they only use chlorine so it can be off gased by letting sit for 24 hrs and aerating.

I forgot to say that let it sit out 24 hours water temp.l 19/20c

 

[Ph 007]

Few more pics all the symptoms have littelly showed up over night ,
Also forgot. To say I add canna rootonic at 2ml a litre.

 

[Ph 007]

I don't see CaCo3 (calcium carbonate) or magnesium, find that odd. But good new is they only use chlorine so it can be off gased by letting sit for 24 hrs and aerating.

I let it sit.24 hours but I don't aerate i used to could that cause much problems surely not ?

 

[Aqua Man]

I let it sit.24 hours but I don't aerate i used to could that cause much problems surely not ?

Prob not can you take a whole plant pic? Is this DWC?

 

[Ph 007]

What would you guys do

By looking at them and my water
What would you take that tap water to with calmag ppm and How much feed
They where potted into coco 2 days ago
Water taken to 200pm with calmag
Per litre
1.1ml a&b canna coco .
2.5ml cannyzm .
2ml rootonic.
Oh 6.0 watered to.run off next day looked like shit :(

 

[Ph 007]

Prob not can you take a whole plant pic? Is this DWC?

It's coco, and eventually Into 20 litre pots and fees once a day then twice a day on blue dripper, still learning tbis coco game and system is new to make plants where started in aerophobic clone machine, ez clonner

 

[Jimster]

What medium are you growing in? Forgive me if I missed it earlier, but some mixtures are already fairly full of calcium, although magnesium might be lacking. To my eyes, which aren't as good as they used to be, the plants look sort of anemic/light green... almost like they need a dose of nitrogen... which is unusual since it sounds like it is being fed pretty well.

 

[Aqua Man]

What would you guys do

By looking at them and my water
What would you take that tap water to with calmag ppm and How much feed
They where potted into coco 2 days ago
Water taken to 200pm with calmag
Per litre
1.1ml a&b canna coco .
2.5ml cannyzm .
2ml rootonic.
Oh 6.0 watered to.run off next day looked like shit :(

Input ppm and pH and output ppm and pH?.

Size of pots?
You don't need calmag with those nutrients they are designed with extra for coco.

 

[oldskol4evr]

What would you guys do

By looking at them and my water
What would you take that tap water to with calmag ppm and How much feed
They where potted into coco 2 days ago
Water taken to 200pm with calmag
Per litre
1.1ml a&b canna coco .
2.5ml cannyzm .
2ml rootonic.
Oh 6.0 watered to.run off next day looked like shit :(

but with all them ml's what was the over all ppm when you feed?
stupid question but i will ask anyway,did you rinse the coco? if it was already ph correct,did you check it?coco has to have cal mag,it has only what you feed it.
im thinking a plant that size i would be running around 400 to 450 ppm total and 150 of it would be cal mag if i was using ro water,with tap water no cal mag ,i already have hard water so it has plenty

 

[Ph 007]

What medium are you growing in? Forgive me if I missed it earlier, but some mixtures are already fairly full of calcium, although magnesium might be lacking. To my eyes, which aren't as good as they used to be, the plants look sort of anemic/light green... almost like they need a dose of nitrogen... which is unusual since it sounds like it is being fed pretty well.

They in canna coco pro , with some perlite added by me

 

[Ph 007]

Just took pics now , this is about 8 hours after the other pics crazy how quick the changing

 

[Ph 007]

Input ppm and pH and output ppm and pH?.

Size of pots?
You don't need calmag with those nutrients they are designed with extra for coco.

In 200ppm calmag and then feed till I get 500ppm ph 6.0, out is 500ppm ph 6.2/6.4, the I hit them with 200ppm calmag and fees til got 650ppm fed that, next day they dropped then I fed 200ppm calmag and feed l got 500ppm ph 6.0 tbis was.in out was 700/750ppm ph 6.4 what was the last feed they had the 500ppm in 700/750 ppm.out

 

[Ph 007]

Could i rule out over watering?

 

[Ph 007]

Input ppm and pH and output ppm and pH?.

Size of pots?
You don't need calmag with those nutrients they are designed with extra for coco.

So looking at my water quality I should need any calmag with this canna coco feed? I under stand it has extra cal mag but everything of read seem to insist you need calmag with soft water and canna coco nutrinats

The medium the coco pro I'm using by canna , is pre-buffed and has a ppm of 100 out the bag well When I run my 80ppm.tap water through it it says 100ppm

 

[Aqua Man]

No calmag 500-600ppm of nutrients so 600-700ppm total.

What size pots and how much are you feeding at a time.

 

[Aqua Man]

Looks like mag deficiency. But kinda overal a bit hungry.