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Thanks TTS - though you're adding costs to my gig ;-} I am in the damp part - the Capital. I'm drawing air from a lightly wooded area so it's always cooler than urban air but I'll plan on adding a/c.
Here's a crazy thought. I got unused space behind the shop where I build the grow room. The ground is a constant 52 degrees or so. The thought is to dig a trench and bury some pipe, then draw air through that pipe. Maybe a group of 2" ridged electrical conduit ganged into an 8" pvc or something. In theory this would cool my intake air. I have no idea how to figure how well it would work though. If it did I could just run a dehumidifier and control temp via fan speed. Ever hear of anything like this?
"Think not - Build! Or build not. This is enough thinking." - to paraphrase the little guy with the light stick ;-}The trouble with these ideas is they don't go deep enough. Geothermal goes down much further, and most use water as the working fluid. Water carries heat- or cold- much better than air does. If you want to upgrade your cooling beyond ac, look into a heat pump.
Meanwhile, get the basics built. Get the thing going and learn as much as you can.
I just went back and read your bullets on setting up chilling. Thanks for all you share here ttystikk. I hope to get so tricky in the future, though my room is in the shop which is detached from the house. In the future I will have a toasty shop to work in over the winter however!Meanwhile, get the basics built. Get the thing going and learn as much as you can.
I just found the link to this site here at the Farm a few days ago and I've been thinking about it ever since. Look through the links on the left side of the page, "Geothermal Energy", & "Geoair Energy". Talks about exactly what you're talking about.... linkThanks TTS - though you're adding costs to my gig ;-} I am in the damp part - the Capital. I'm drawing air from a lightly wooded area so it's always cooler than urban air but I'll plan on adding a/c.
Here's a crazy thought. I got unused space behind the shop where I build the grow room. The ground is a constant 52 degrees or so. The thought is to dig a trench and bury some pipe, then draw air through that pipe. Maybe a group of 2" ridged electrical conduit ganged into an 8" pvc or something. In theory this would cool my intake air. I have no idea how to figure how well it would work though. If it did I could just run a dehumidifier and control temp via fan speed. Ever hear of anything like this?
Thx TTY. If we can find a cheap used unit we might try playing it in conjunction with venting the building. What I realized in reading your comments is I have really not checked out the whole space and what's around it. The shop is at the back corner of a large parking lot/building complex so there is pavement all around, but I think there may be trees or large bushes behind it. If we could pull air from the back through the building (I don't think it's done that way) that may be cooler. I'll take a closer look at the whole arrangement tonight.
I checked out that site FW - way cool (pun intended ;-). Silver Haze posted it earlier in this thread. At my buddies place he can't go digging around, nor is he willing to put that much effort and money into a rental space (though he's got 30 plants in there...) On the other hand, i'm going to dig a deep trench before I make an addition to my room and run intake pipes through the nice cool earth. I even have a fair size creek running close to my room. I've thought of pumping cold water from that through heat exchangers of some sort. The creek is about 30 feet down a slop however, gotta look at power required to lift it along with pumping it through exchangers or coils.
Nice to reach out and have a hand so readily available!
Ha! I guess I use the creek then ;-} I dream of using the creek to produce power but have not taken the time to research the right gear to generate without harming the creek or the area right around it. Last year I watched salmon swim up, right through my back yard!
My clones are about a week away from needing a better home, all the gear is on the way (though horticulturalsource.com is scaring me - bought ballasts there and now the website is down...). I'm in a mad dash to get everything ready and will soon know if I need supplemental cooling or not...
Anybody ever used a Therminator to cool any of their equipment? I have one laying around from my brewing exploits... it was amazing how fast it cooled the 160 degree wort down to 70 with just cool tap water flowing in the opposite direction. Kind of magic.
If your tap water remains below 65 f, you should still be able to use it.
What about using it in conjunction with a chiller? I've never used an active chiller -- is the therminator redundant if it was used with one?
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