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Goddamn has this shit gotten outta control.
I frankly don't give a fuck about the whole LED discussion - I don't use them, never have, and don't have any plans to.
The thing that bothers is me that members of this community whose input I value are now getting banned for what to me appears to be a totally pointless reason - you don't like LEDs, don't fucking buy them.
You think the LED forum is a propaganda-producing machine that you disagree with? Don't read it and don't argue with LEDGirl, as that seems to get people banned.
You're really that worried about people possibly buying LEDs because of what you think are biased and *improperly reported* results? Then start up a fucking website called "LEDSsuck.com" and go nuts with it - don't start fifteen threads a day saying "LEDs Suck", because then the message kinda gets lost in how obnoxious your delivery is.
Please, please, please stop ruining this website which I've come to really enjoy because both sides of the argument feel as though their word is gospel and the world is dying to hear it - I think I speak for the majority of the community when I say that we're really not and 99% of us really don't care.
Fucking grow up, people.
Sorry for the rant, but it seems like for the past week or two that this site is devolving into a shitshow, and I think it's a sad state of affairs - just look at the traffic decline over the past few days/week.
Motta --- being rude like this IS WHY YOU GET DELETED and edited. It's not because you have such profound knowledge that must be covered up. It's because you come across rude in your posts to people. It's very simple.
If you don't see how your post can be taken a rude and disrespectful then there is a much bigger issue here.
I'd be happy to help you see how you can constuct your posts in a more civil way if you are actually open to it.
Maybe you aren't trying to be blatantly rude to people and you just don't know the best way to word your posts to properly express yourself. You remember what you posted in the beginning of this thread, you should know why it was edited ... you were rude period... no ifs ands or buts.
Also look above at the tone you take with Texas in you last set of posts, a mod here who has to do more needless work when people act like children, the tone was disrespectful to the time he puts in here .. the work all the mods do allows this board to be here for all of us.
As far as lost and Haggler there bans were also influenced by their rudeness to other members here, me included.
as far as the LED you used again, was it a HydroGrow LED or a different brand? simple question
Goddamn has this shit gotten outta control.
I frankly don't give a fuck about the whole LED discussion - I don't use them, never have, and don't have any plans to.
The thing that bothers is me that members of this community whose input I value are now getting banned for what to me appears to be a totally pointless reason - you don't like LEDs, don't fucking buy them.
You think the LED forum is a propaganda-producing machine that you disagree with? Don't read it and don't argue with LEDGirl, as that seems to get people banned.
You're really that worried about people possibly buying LEDs because of what you think are biased and *improperly reported* results? Then start up a fucking website called "LEDSsuck.com" and go nuts with it - don't start fifteen threads a day saying "LEDs Suck", because then the message kinda gets lost in how obnoxious your delivery is.
Please, please, please stop ruining this website which I've come to really enjoy because both sides of the argument feel as though their word is gospel and the world is dying to hear it - I think I speak for the majority of the community when I say that we're really not and 99% of us really don't care.
Fucking grow up, people.
Sorry for the rant, but it seems like for the past week or two that this site is devolving into a shitshow, and I think it's a sad state of affairs - just look at the traffic decline over the past few days/week.
BobbySmith said:You think the LED forum is a propaganda-producing machine that you disagree with? Don't read it and don't argue with LEDGirl, as that seems to get people banned.
froggy said:I am a novice grower and have used LEDGirl's light. I have had a positive experience with her light and produced some really good quality meds
froggy said:A lot of this debate really does seem to be more of a personal issue with LEDGirl. I have never seen such an aggressive and extreme debate over LED's.
On the other hand, it does engender resentment among the more senior members of the community when a newbie with a paid membership starts editing posts of respected members. I imagine lots of posters have logged on to see the Staff-Bot edit message and said to themselves "Who the fuck?! . . "
beezleb878 said:This is a business site
beezleb said:not a true public forum as in with free speech and advocacy
beezleb said:I would rather see a rebuttal that I disagree with than a flat out edit without further input
You may not have realized this, but I have never posted in her forum. I read it on some occasion, and I have participated to a small degree in other discussions. However, that does not preclude me from the ability to put a few things together, having been a businessperson myself some things especially stand out to me. And so, I call them as I see them--if anyone is to be called out for slinging mud, anyone who does it so should be.If all of you people with bad juju for LEDGirl only wield this (this one is for you Seamaiden) animus because you don't like her edit button, then get out of her forum and find something better to do with ur time.
seamaiden said:Seriously, sedate, you don't see where my issue lies here?
seamaiden said:What's funny is the difference in behaviors I see between new product developers in the aquarium world (when things don't go as advertised) versus the behavior I see in the pot world when things don't go as advertised
seamaiden said:If someone introduced a new lighting product in the aquarium world and it failed to perform as advertised and customers said so, and then that outfit went on to state that the problem lay with the customers, that they just killed fish and their customers from another site grow MAD corals and the rarest fish using that product and the ones that can't are just fucked up, that outfit wouldn't last very long at all if they used some of the tactics that I have seen LEDGirl use.
kuz said:I've read enough of your post's to know your not the everyday sucker,
kuz said:but did you really say somebody over there is trying to "convey complex technical data"
kuz said:No offense but breakthrough technology will come from panasonic not led girl
kuz said:Man I think you've been engulfed by the hysteria.
Sedate, I've read enough of your post's to know your not the everyday sucker, but did you really say somebody over there is trying to "convey complex technical data". lol, Man I think you've been engulfed by the hysteria.
The lights are kind of cool, if you want to just buy one, no problem, beware of blown up claims, thats all. No offense but breakthrough technology will come from panasonic not led girl. And the old technology still isnt anywhere near being competitive.
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