GR33NL3AF said:

For starters I have tested it. I work for Monster Gardens a leader in the industry because we TEST everything with a spectrometer, par meter and staff that is few and far between and only stand behind reliability and efficiency. I didn't say you were trolling, don't get emotional on me. And in MY experience over the several hundred customers I deal with one a daily bases, the AC/DE is killing it but not like the original Gavita and I will give you a hint as to why. It's not about the footprint, glass, air-cooling (which, if you're not going to air cool the AC/DE why waste the money???? Buy the DE Boss) or reflective capability, it's about the micromol's ie the reflector is insignificant. And to be frank my company consults the 'consultant's' so that word is also insignificant. I know all the specs on all the equipment that matters, and so do all my co-workers, this is why they come to us.

Solistek's MH is a coal miner bulb that has been around for a LONG time and you know the reason no one wanted to put it on the market? It's crap. All that product is, is hype. It's blown up because "They were the first to do it"... wrong..simple marketing. We almost did it too but didn't want to offer an inferior product. Trust me, don't waste your money.

I simply had to address the 'supposedly' and 'speculation' because not allot of people are getting the FACTS about these products. So, don't take this personal.

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Herb Forester said:

Nanolux says the controller is gigabit encrypted. @Billyboat did you get the controller?

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Coir said:

So in your testing, is there really a big difference between the Gavita and Nanolux or something like the Agrolux fixtures that all appear virtually identical as far as design goes? Is the Philips bulb better than the one in the Nanalux fixture? Will the Genesis bulb compete with the Philips bulb? Have you seen these? http://www.agrolux.com/index.php/en/home/16.html

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altitudefarmer said:

Hey, thanks for the detailed explanation. I posted what I believe(d) to be true. I'd love to see your numbers. I am not emotional, lol. Just thought a smartass comment deserved a rebuttal.
This discussion is exactly why I am on these forums; to get to the real truth in a sea of bs. Salesmen will always be salesmen, and sometimes this forum sheds light on what's really what.
I accept your answer, no matter how it was delivered.
Thanks again.if you have any links to your research that would be awesome, as I am frequently commissioned to spend loads of other people's money, and I want to get them set up in the best possible way.

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Billyboat said:

I got 3 more nanolux's on the way and their controller to try out. Going to try 4 of them covering an 8x12 area.

I'll post results on how they do and how the controller works.

Cheers

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The Terps said:

It makes sense more space for heat trap but these e ballast really don't get that hot. My e pap and gavita that is but for the price you could upgrade the bulb which is the only aspect I a question at this point. Can't wait for genesis and eye horti de!

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Herb Forester said:

Is Monster Gardens going to correct misinformation Genesis has given on UV levels vs the blue wavelengths? In some of your recent youtube videos the same bad info is repeated by the presenters.

It would be nice to get clarification on the spectral claims, otherwise I'm not buying that DE lamp is any better than Philips' or Gavita's (and possibly lower quality?) If you can show us trustworthy real world comparisons of all 4 lamps, then I'll give you my business ;)

Will you also be testing the Nanolux fixture against the same parameters as the Gavita vs EPap? I'd like to see data for all these DE lamps compared at farther distances from the canopy, especially footprint and ppfd for the Nanolux on several settings.

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