[Rama777]

So the whole grow is not necessarily a loss yet?

 

[Bdubs]

If you confirm twice and get that heart sinking feeling because you keep finding stick and balls, it is what it is for whatever reason. No judgement. But the sooner you look at every part of her and confirm male, the better chance what you just showed is super early indentify before pollen is dropped. You could be lucky and save the crop.

I second guessed and let mine go a few days just to curse myself the first day I found one that wasn’t opened. But I had never seen or knew how to identify them and I was kind of in shock that it was happening . But they sprung 10 fold before I knew it and body bagged it. It was too late for my first flower push because I failed to convince myself it was male.

So find out, if in doubt. If it looks like any picture you can find online of a sack, it is what you are looking at no question. Don’t be me and wait lol

 

[Rama777]

 

[Rama777]

Maybe I’ll just take this one whole plant out tomorrow. Plenty of signs.

 

[Bdubs]

Here we go. All my photos. Last pic was the killing blow prune that caused it. I took over 25%~

 

[Bdubs]

Yes sir it is male

 

[Rama777]

So sad.. I definitely did not take out more than 10%, if that.

 

[Bdubs]

I mean if you think it is. I would say yes if they look like anything in the photos I posted. I hope I am wrong

 

[Rama777]

Maybe it was the stress of feeding them through the net, even though I didn’t damage any leaves? Lots of moving things around though.

 

[Rama777]

I mean there is zero question whatsoever with the one I dissected under the microscope..

 

[Bdubs]

Bro I’ve been there and it sucks.

 

[Rama777]

For real, gut wrenching, and my son broke his arm today on top of it!!

I’ll know better by tomorrow but I think they all might be going hermie..

 

[Bdubs]

when I say “keep cleaning her up in veg” I mean with ample time between pruning, 4-5days. If success is key, you can wait. When you get 20oz, you have all the time to play with every grow after.

 

[Rama777]

Not many reports of people growing this strain out but everyone who has had nothing but great things to say about it. If they’re all hermies I’ll seriously need to figure out where I went so wrong.

I’ll sleep on it. Thanks for being there man..

 

[Bdubs]

Heavy defoliate is more critical to take only 2 or 3 with a 4-5 day break…for indicas. They stress hard on pruning. They need all their leaf surfaces and it will cause them more stress than a wild hyper growing Sativa.

 

[Rama777]

These are hybrids. Almost triple stretchers. They’ve grown a full inch everyday wether or not I did any defoliating. Nothing I’ve done slowed them down in the slightest which I guess is why I thought I could get away with pulling 3-8 leaves every 3-4 days.

 

[Rama777]

In the end, I think I just had them in veg for too long and didn’t realize how much defoliation would actually be necessary. But in retrospect I will never do little by little ever again. I’ll have super planned out sessions spread apart!

 

[HerbalEdu]

i deal with lite hermie rather often growing from seeds in large amount it's not rare a few phenotypes show a few males preflowers bottom of the canopy the first few weeks of flowering, just touch them with your fingers , prefereably before they are mature enough to open up show banana and later drop some pollen, and they will fall easily.

 

[Choppr]

She is intersexed female a true male doesn't have the white pistils - never the less, the male stamen (nanners) will drop pollen, could be bad genetics too, or someone selling you F1's, F1's dont handle much stress - pictured is my male "sundae driver stud, early flower, this is during an open pollination, photo #1 hes rubbing up on the females on both sides of him a sugarcane left and a purple thai right(not shown).

 

[cannafarmer420]

Continual defoliation can cause herm. Excessive loss of leaves. Node sites or bud sites clipped off. Sex organs (single blades at the base of leaf sites) removed during defoliation. Not enough rest between prunes. Any one stress with a defoliation, followed the next day by another defoliation, even a light defoliation day after day will cause it.

3-4 day rule between defoliates in veg. Longer waiting in flower. I adopted the 2-3 heavy defoliates and scheduled specific times of growth periods. Only up to 3 leafs in flower After week 4 and only if they need to be gone. Not including dead ones. Flipping to flower is the ultimate stress the plant will go through. Hence why some or most prune heavy one week before flip and then 3 weeks after flip to manicure it back to what they wanted before the flip. Then the least amount of stress possible after that.

Pruning snagged me in the test phases of early growing. I only went to the second day after pruning and she was doing soo goood. But because I couldn’t stop touching her and trying to take too much off in one sitting, she hermed on me and was popping pre flower. I had her for a couple months and she hated me for chopping her up too often with no rest inbetween.

Time is against the grower to manicure and prune. But time always has to be given to the plant to recover before we stress more. Genes have a lot to do with their stress limits. But if you maintain a 3-4 day rule and limit it…you have to schedule your prunes and be very careful. Pruning is what will do this to a lot of first time pruners. It got me on my best plant when I first started.

Some varieties you can abuse in to oblivion, depending on the genetics and the skill of the breeder plus some luck. I mean mainling defoliates and stresses like a mfer. I would lean genetics if defoliation was the culprit and avoid that breeder