I'm getting some strange readings here captain.

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The second chart is especially troubling since I’m after myrcene, although I can’t tell from the chart what RV and CP refer to.
Wouldn’t that mean commercially grown weed would lack myrcene as well? But going by the dispensary labels, some strains are quite high in it.
There are definitely varieties with higher certain terpene content than those in the study. An aquaintence of mine has a couple dispensaries and I can ask about outdoor grown marijuana availability. I know he has 4 farms in 2 states, so it's likely its available. You may have to travel out of state to get it. The terpene you mention is good for healing brain injuries. Is there a certain reason you are needing it? I can ask him to check his database next time I call and see if he has a genotype in the collection especially high in myrcene for example. Perhaps I even have it here on my shelf and dont know it.
 
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So some plants never go to amber, but i can see here there is a good enough amount, other wiseni apply the red/brown pistil read.
Ill chop when 95% of pistils are red in a strain thay doesnt show amber trichs. As a back up method. But you have amber here, just a feather for your cap….
Once a plant once it gets to changing its physiology late in flower shifting to cbn, it can go from 20-25% to 75% almost overnight depending. Now terps can change massive in jar over a normal 30 cure, from gasey pinene, to all limonene yo mycern as the herb dries.
A huge driver in that is the amount of air that you allow into a curing jar when you’re doing diligent to change out the air and whatever interval of time you’re at during cure there are times when I get a real nice change and something I’m curing and I’ll pull it a little early if that is right where I like it in the sweet spot and I’ll go ahead and I’ll vacuum pack that shit and I’ll put it away to try And save that flavor for later so it’s like taking a picture you can keep but you’ll still have a portion that you keep in cure, which at the end of the day can have a completely different pallet just from a longer cure from the bonus chunk stashed. This is subjective though and not a 100% method because ambient temps and a vac packed sack can still cure an depending on ambient rh and temp of your curing space.
So this is how i set my curing jars up.
Much easier than bouncing a rogue hygrometer out of a full jar, and gives a more solid reading. Name of the game is keeping the jar as close as possible to that 62% humidity in jar making sure to stay away from hot temps and high rh. You’ve just gotta keep an eye on your temperatures. Make sure the room you’re curing in is climate controlled and keep an eye on that higrometer so you know when you’re over that 70% number you stay over that for too terribly long without checking your jars, you could be tempting fate. So just stay on top of what you’re doing. Don’t open the jar too many damn times just make sure it doesn’t start creeping up into the mid 70s on the humidity side of things and that the room that you’re carrying in gets nowhere near above 79° in my experience, I live in the swamp though so I don’t fuck around

Giving you a gold star for that hygrometer on the lid, what did you set it with, plumbers putty? Sure as heck beats wiggling the jar around until the LED is facing ya.
 
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The terpene you mention is good for healing brain injuries. Is there a certain reason you are needing it?
I suppose after all the years of lab-concocted, doctor-prescribed medications, my brain probably is pretty injured. I’m not being flippant or trying to detract from people with physical injuries, but the last brain scan I had showed atrophy equivalent to an 70 year old. I asked about long term side affects one time and the doctor asked me if I wanted to enjoy life now or live an extra ten years. Kinda had me bent over a barrel there.
I use weed to shut my mind off at night. I’ve gotten off three heavy duty medications and have all but quit drinking—and I’m not walking around like a zombie all day anymore. I’ve found that myrcene really settles my mind and body in the evening.
Of course I’ve only been using for about 2 1/2 years, so it may be just coincidence that the strains I’ve liked were high in myrcene. I’m interested to see how my homegrown indoor weed compares to medical dispensary weed. I hope it’s at least as good.
 
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As for your trichomes: Those born most recently will still look clear. It looks to me that most are cloudy. That amount of amber would likely indicate chop time for my taste
I guess I’m too worried about anxiety and paranoia, which would be way worse than nothing for me.
I guess my question is—and maybe it’s to subjective for anyone else but me to answer for myself—is, will a few clear trichs affect me negatively if most are cloudy or amber?
 
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I guess I’m too worried about anxiety and paranoia, which would be way worse than nothing for me.
I guess my question is—and maybe it’s to subjective for anyone else but me to answer for myself—is, will a few clear trichs affect me negatively if most are cloudy or amber?

I think you're putting too much reliance on trichome color as your guide. Amber is a sign of overripeness. Clear is a sign of underripeness but not always. Some strains just don't cloud. I just scrolled to the top to double check. You're growing an indica. You don't really have to worry about paranoia. Unless growing is illegal where you're at and you could get thrown in the clanker. Then you should be paranoid, lol.

Like I said, you could try an incremental harvest, take some buds off this week and start drying them, take some next week and start drying them, then take what remains in two weeks. Cure each batch separately and label the jars, and keep a personal journal to make some notes about the effects. Then you can go back to your notes and review the pros and cons you wrote down about each.
 
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I suppose after all the years of lab-concocted, doctor-prescribed medications, my brain probably is pretty injured. I’m not being flippant or trying to detract from people with physical injuries, but the last brain scan I had showed atrophy equivalent to an 70 year old. I asked about long term side affects one time and the doctor asked me if I wanted to enjoy life now or live an extra ten years. Kinda had me bent over a barrel there.
I use weed to shut my mind off at night. I’ve gotten off three heavy duty medications and have all but quit drinking—and I’m not walking around like a zombie all day anymore. I’ve found that myrcene really settles my mind and body in the evening.
Of course I’ve only been using for about 2 1/2 years, so it may be just coincidence that the strains I’ve liked were high in myrcene. I’m interested to see how my homegrown indoor weed compares to medical dispensary weed. I hope it’s at least as good.
I would invite you to have a private conversation with me about these personal matters if you like. Partly for your discression, and partly because I would start to talk about things that would shock common opinion and belief, but also potentially put a lot of businesses in a negative light as they should be. But unfortunately they abuse a cancel culture system through the use of silencing people by simply flagging my response.

There are a couple of things I would like to talk about. One, about treating the problems you may have from cannabis, and other means as well. There is no perfect fix right now for you, like magic it's all gone. But there is a way to get treatment for these things as best you can. There is a lot of superstition, pseudoscience and hyper focus on cannabis with a lot of opinions and beliefs to cut through. You've said a few things that make me know its worth saying something based and real because you have the ability to listen, and get the help you need. You have the neccessary drive as well. It's at this point into your inquiry where you need good information, and the general household knowledge people have in forums like this, is not dependable or reliable. But could also be super helpful of it's right and well thought out. So you are at a place where you can go wrong easily, or right easily. I'm willing to help.

By what you mentioned, and the scientific studies I have been looking at, are lining up, harmonizing. Plus, you may not have to be dependant on anyone like a slave, and be able to make plenty of your own medicine and save money at the same time. That would be a beautiful thing.
 
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I would invite you to have a private conversation with me about these personal matters if you like. Partly for your discression, and partly because I would start to talk about things that would shock common opinion and belief, but also potentially put a lot of businesses in a negative light as they should be. But unfortunately they abuse a cancel culture system through the use of silencing people by simply flagging my response.

There are a couple of things I would like to talk about. One, about treating the problems you may have from cannabis, and other means as well. There is no perfect fix right now for you, like magic it's all gone. But there is a way to get treatment for these things as best you can. There is a lot of superstition, pseudoscience and hyper focus on cannabis with a lot of opinions and beliefs to cut through. You've said a few things that make me know its worth saying something based and real because you have the ability to listen, and get the help you need. You have the neccessary drive as well. It's at this point into your inquiry where you need good information, and the general household knowledge people have in forums like this, is not dependable or reliable. But could also be super helpful of it's right and well thought out. So you are at a place where you can go wrong easily, or right easily. I'm willing to help.

By what you mentioned, and the scientific studies I have been looking at, are lining up, harmonizing. Plus, you may not have to be dependant on anyone like a slave, and be able to make plenty of your own medicine and save money at the same time. That would be a beautiful thing.

As a medicinal user, I agree you gotta follow a regimen for what you're aiming for. I started medicinal marijuana as a bullshit excuse to get stoned. But then I figured out a dosing regimen that allowed me to ditch the anxiety meds I was taking. Then I figured out how to grow and harvest a strain that addresses my insomnia. And despite the stereotype about weed munchies, I even used weed edibles to help me lose 80 pounds of weight. It's one thing smoking weed to get high, but if your shooting for a medical benefit you should know what you're aiming for and follow a regimen that will provide the benefit you're looking for so that you have realistic expectations and measurable results. Just my spitball comments on the subject.

Weed isn't without its side effects we all recognize... But If I'm going to have them to stop anxiety, I'd rather take something that makes me occasionally lose my train of thought than never have another boner to admire.
 
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If using cannabis for psychoactive effect, THC is the tool to the nervous system of the brain. Amber trichromes is the loss of THC. How THC and other chemical compounds work together is complex and not completely understood. Marijuana is a beautiful full spectrum drug, not an isolated chemical compound. What chemical profile, the intended use, play parts in that choice. To get that dialed in is the goal for many people. But we cant ignore all other factors. If the source of the problems is not correctly identified, or if something is causing problematic flare ups, these types of other factors have to be considered and addressed. True medical marijuana is something people have used for thousands of years. Much of the modern genetics we see in the widely available polyhybrids is severely lacking or devoid of real medicine and is basicly just fun weed to get a high and feel good. It's not all medicine. The really good medicine, and more specialty oriented medicine is not so common, and is often not so easy to grow because it's for the end user, and not tailored for a lazy impatient grower, or someone wanting to make more money quickly. I have ideas come to mind, but I just don't know enough about your situation. Plus I would have you or I seek advice of professionals that know way more about specifics than I or most people on earth would. Putting all those pieces together at the end. You may be growing the perfect weed already, I don't know. But I'm already thinking about some uncommon true medical genotypes that contain 20 something terpenes and a decent CB D level, very nice THC level, and THCv, stuff with no crash at the end, plus other stuff I may not be informed about yet. And its 100% that botanical description people would call sativa in effect. Not everyone will read that pdf I put in my early post, or other studies that relate to this, but myrcene does modulate or enhance CBD effects in recent findings, as well as other changes. This combined with other factors and chemical compounds interactions can treat a targeted problem and sometimes fix other things on the side because it's a broad spectrum medicine. So even if your target is completely wrong it will likely improve the situation if not treat it anyway.
 
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As a medicinal user, I agree you gotta follow a regimen for what you're aiming for. I started medicinal marijuana as a bullshit excuse to get stoned. But then I figured out a dosing regimen that allowed me to ditch the anxiety meds I was taking. Then I figured out how to grow and harvest a strain that addresses my insomnia. And despite the stereotype about weed munchies, I even used weed edibles to help me lose 80 pounds of weight. It's one thing smoking weed to get high, but if your shooting for a medical benefit you should know what you're aiming for and follow a regimen that will provide the benefit you're looking for so that you have realistic expectations and measurable results. Just my spitball comments on the subject.

Weed isn't without its side effects we all recognize... But If I'm going to have them to stop anxiety, I'd rather take something that makes me occasionally lose my train of thought than never have another boner to admire.
With marijuana, there are potent strains that don't give you the munchies, they actually have an appetite suppression from THCv. Its presence is in select african cultivars, more so before hybridization changed them. Sometimes the medicine that used to be there is bred out completely unintentionally or unknowningly in favor of higher thc, higher cbd, shorter flowering time, bigger yields, and so on. And other darker reasons I'm not going into here. Many will make claims, but here your source really matters. Quite often false claims are made just to get your money. Where a reliable source for medicine has no problem giving you facts and providing test results, even third party tests, long standing and even legendary reputations, and literally want to help you get the right thing even if it means no sale or no profit for them. They help people, like a good healer would do. Businesses just want dependance and constant access to your wallet.

Cannabis is medicine, that's a fact. But it's not a cure all for every condition or complaint. You mention anxiety. Perhaps cannabis helps treat that in a temporary superficial way, but the root cause is not addressed. Anxiety can only exist for you if you imagine, dream, fantasize, think about the future. The root of the problem can be addressed for example by changing from dreaming about future and possible bad stuff or stressful stuff in the future, to being present in this moment. Being here now in life, in what's real, avoiding the fantasy of the future which results in no possibility for anxiety. Cannabis can help you on that transition to give you relief or rest. But it's a mistake to utilize cannabis and become dependent on it like crutches. It's also a mistake to expect utilization of something external to fix internal problems. My opinion. In your case you wrote you have switched one dependency on a particular medicine, for dependency on a different medicine. Which is healthier perhaps, but dependence is still there. Not freedom from. Slavery to, is still there. That dependency makes you exploitable. We want to avoid that. You can also lose weight by shifting your diet to burn fat instead of sugar. Cannabis can still be used and can be very helpful without sabotaging the weight loss goals and dietary transition, exercise or whatever the case may be for that particular situation and human. While that process of internal change is going on.

It's my opinion that the right information can be found much easier than the right and genuine cannabis for that purpose can be found. That's where I like to help people. Get them in touch with the right people. Healers not dealers. People that see people, not just the next sale, not just another cash cow to groom and exploit. Getting true medical marijuana is not as easy and readily available as it is commonly believed to be. You really have to cut through a mountain of garbage to find the gems. I managed it. Others can, have, and will too. But since I have already, I actually like to help my fellow travelers whenever I can. I know we are all interconnected. You are all my brothers and sisters, and we are all in this together.
 
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And it may be the case where treatment of symptoms is the best solution in some situations with some people. But its important to know if that is the actual situation or not to determine the best outcome.
 
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And it may be the case where treatment of symptoms is the best solution in some situations with some people. But its important to know if that is the actual situation or not to determine the best outcome
Cannabis is medicine, that's a fact. But it's not a cure all for every condition or complaint. You mention anxiety. Perhaps cannabis helps treat that in a temporary superficial way, but the root cause is not addressed. Anxiety can only exist for you if you imagine, dream, fantasize, think about the future. The root of the problem can be addressed for example by changing from dreaming about future and possible bad stuff or stressful stuff in the future, to being present in this moment. Being here now in life, in what's real, avoiding the fantasy of the future which results in no possibility for anxiety. Cannabis can help you on that transition to give you relief or rest. But it's a mistake to utilize cannabis and become dependent on it like crutches. It's also a mistake to expect utilization of something external to fix internal problems. My opinion. In your case you wrote you have switched one dependency on a particular medicine, for dependency on a different medicine. Which is healthier perhaps, but dependence is still there. Not freedom from. Slavery to, is still there. That dependency makes you exploitable. We want to avoid that. You can also lose weight by shifting your diet to burn fat instead of sugar. Cannabis can still be used and can be very helpful without sabotaging the weight loss goals and dietary transition, exercise or whatever the case may be for that particular situation and human. While that process of internal change is going on

I sincerely appreciate all your remarks and advice.
Today is my birthday. I'm 54. I have had a life of hospitals, doctors' offices, jails, therapy groups, meditation guides, philosophy classes, religion classes, self-help books, and everything else under the sun to find peace in life. I've taken a swimming pool full of meds--most did more harm than good, but a few have granted me a life worth living. I have undoubtedly drunk a Great Lake of alcohol trying to self-medicate. I have alienated almost all of my friends and am left with a core of a devoted and loving family, which I thank my stars for every day. Please believe me when I say, if you can dream it, I've tried it.
Every time the subject of healing the mind through thinking comes up, I am reminded of a time in a hospital when they finally forced me to go to group therapy, which I vehemently resisted. All the people in the group were one upping each other about how bad they felt, about how life wasn't worth living because their girlfriend left them or they lost their job. You poor lucky bastards, I said, you have a dragon to slay, a dragon you can see with your own eyes, go fucking slay it and quit whining about it. Very insensitive of me, I know, and I shouldn't compare other's pain to my own, but I have often been laid to the absolute ground just when my life was at its best. One of my first long hospitalizations came about during a fun filled, devil may care summer in the tropics. It was just BAM! Looney toons time. It happens whether life is grand, or life is shit. I have come to face the hard fact that no amount of learning, thinking, focusing, life changes, or positive outlooks can stop it from happening. Sometimes the brain just isn't quite wired right and in times past it would have, at best, led to a life in an insane asylum, at worst, a permanent bed beneath the soil.
But not now. There are chemicals that can rewire my brain into not trying to kill me every six months. Until now all those chemicals have been created in laboratories, and they aren't created perfectly--the side effects are often sheer nightmares, but cake compared to the alternative. Weed has helped me escape several of those medications and I am grateful. I'm also grateful that it's been such an enjoyable hobby, and I would love to hear more about the strains you speak of that have been proven to heal. But I am not anxious because I'm worried about the future. Hell, my future is living through next week and, if I do, I'll be thrilled. I am no longer worried about anything other than what to make for dinner tomorrow. I'm not anxious about social interactions or anything else. But my mind and my body act like I'm on the lip of the Grand Canyon with a stiff wind at my back.
My dragon is ethereal, and I've learned (and accepted) that chemicals are the only sword against it. Without them, I'd been burned to char a long time ago. So if a myrcene heavy weed helps me get through the evening and to sleep at night, I have no hesitation to growing it and using it. The stuff I was taking before I started using weed was almost as bad as the symptoms it was treating, almost, but not quite. Weed is so much better. It makes my life enjoyable even when I'm not using it.
I deeply apologize for this ramble and I know it is uncalled for, but I have a very sore spot for people telling me there is a better way to treat my issues. That all I have to do is think the right way and they'll disappear. I've given my everything in trying that. It doesn't work. Not for me anyway.
 
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I sincerely appreciate all your remarks and advice.
Today is my birthday. I'm 54. I have had a life of hospitals, doctors' offices, jails, therapy groups, meditation guides, philosophy classes, religion classes, self-help books, and everything else under the sun to find peace in life. I've taken a swimming pool full of meds--most did more harm than good, but a few have granted me a life worth living. I have undoubtedly drunk a Great Lake of alcohol trying to self-medicate. I have alienated almost all of my friends and am left with a core of a devoted and loving family, which I thank my stars for every day. Please believe me when I say, if you can dream it, I've tried it.
Every time the subject of healing the mind through thinking comes up, I am reminded of a time in a hospital when they finally forced me to go to group therapy, which I vehemently resisted. All the people in the group were one upping each other about how bad they felt, about how life wasn't worth living because their girlfriend left them or they lost their job. You poor lucky bastards, I said, you have a dragon to slay, a dragon you can see with your own eyes, go fucking slay it and quit whining about it. Very insensitive of me, I know, and I shouldn't compare other's pain to my own, but I have often been laid to the absolute ground just when my life was at its best. One of my first long hospitalizations came about during a fun filled, devil may care summer in the tropics. It was just BAM! Looney toons time. It happens whether life is grand, or life is shit. I have come to face the hard fact that no amount of learning, thinking, focusing, life changes, or positive outlooks can stop it from happening. Sometimes the brain just isn't quite wired right and in times past it would have, at best, led to a life in an insane asylum, at worst, a permanent bed beneath the soil.
But not now. There are chemicals that can rewire my brain into not trying to kill me every six months. Until now all those chemicals have been created in laboratories, and they aren't created perfectly--the side effects are often sheer nightmares, but cake compared to the alternative. Weed has helped me escape several of those medications and I am grateful. I'm also grateful that it's been such an enjoyable hobby, and I would love to hear more about the strains you speak of that have been proven to heal. But I am not anxious because I'm worried about the future. Hell, my future is living through next week and, if I do, I'll be thrilled. I am no longer worried about anything other than what to make for dinner tomorrow. I'm not anxious about social interactions or anything else. But my mind and my body act like I'm on the lip of the Grand Canyon with a stiff wind at my back.
My dragon is ethereal, and I've learned (and accepted) that chemicals are the only sword against it. Without them, I'd been burned to char a long time ago. So if a myrcene heavy weed helps me get through the evening and to sleep at night, I have no hesitation to growing it and using it. The stuff I was taking before I started using weed was almost as bad as the symptoms it was treating, almost, but not quite. Weed is so much better. It makes my life enjoyable even when I'm not using it.
I deeply apologize for this ramble and I know it is uncalled for, but I have a very sore spot for people telling me there is a better way to treat my issues. That all I have to do is think the right way and they'll disappear. I've given my everything in trying that. It doesn't work. Not for me anyway.
I was actually responding to the other person who was speaking about their experience with anxiety, and weightloss through edibles, but it's no problem. We can talk about it too and share stuff.

I know the mind is the source of all misery, and all the false paths in the marketplace that lead nowhere. Victim mentality, the unconscious masses, chemical pharmacological, and all that. And I'm not saying the journey, or what you all are doing is worthless because it has not fixed the problem. It's great to make the effort like you were writing. If we all look at from multiple angles and have a dialogue it may actually lead to someone making an improvement.

I spent almost my whole life looking at a world of avoidance, bad advice, unconsciousness, group mentality division, but luckily I met one old man from Japan that was enlightened who changed everything. So when people come with their nonsense, I understand totally where you come from. If they arent enlightened I will doubt them by my nature. I'm very aware of how to listen.
 
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a better way to treat my issue
Yes, that's why I brought up changing and identifying and addressing root problems rather than treatment alone. That's how thought works, it can create a problem then do a set of actions to solve the problem and get a bunch of unintended results. 5 doctors may recommend 5 different treatments. Each one has an arm or leg and you are the one being pulled. There is a lot of programming and conditioning that is designed for long-term treattment and dependency for someones elses profit. Treatment rather than curing is so common many people dont even stop to consider there may be another option like prevention, permanent cures, or addressing underlying problems that can't be treated from the outside. Someone may ask for medicine to treat incorrect thinking for example, and there is a doctor who will prescribe a pharmaceutical. Crazy. Just because someone hasn't found a better way yet doesn't mean they won't one day. Keep trying and dont let a conclusion prevent further effort. In my community I've made myself available to hundreds of people, and I managed to make a difference for about 2 maybe 3 people. Those 2 or 3 people really make all the effort worth it.
 
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But mycrene should be available because it's proven to be in the three types of widely available generic marijuana everyone gets. But its import to know more about the interaction of that terpene with other compounds present. That's why I posted up the pdf earlier with the study on mice. And also how its grown is important to retain it. We can see that sun is important as well according to the findings.

 
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Okay, that makes sense. Now how about terpenes? At what point are they strongest? Or do terpenes and the clarity of trichomes not correlate? I’m asking because I’ve learned that I really like the effects of myrcene. This strain is supposed to be high in it. I’m definitely a nighttime hitter.

You didn't learn anything.

You don't like myrcene.

Someone lied to you.

Myrcene doesn't have a damned thing to do with any positive effect of Cannabis.

Other than my own personal breeding project to prove all of you wrong, I have never even smelled myrcene in weed and neither have you (smells like cheap grape lollipops).


Most of what people attribute to myrcene comes from anthranilic acid derivatives. If you see someone talking about weed flavors and there isn't an organic acid found in weed that you can trace it back to, they are lying.


Literally, the terpene bullshit is a lie. Stop spreading it.
 
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Myrcene doesn't have a damned thing to do with any positive effect of Cannabi
I may not be up to date, but the last I heard the complex interactions of the chemical compounds in cannabis (entourage effect), some of them being terpenes, do modulate and vary the effects of cannabis, and is still largely unknown. Actually the study I posted in pdf form specifically mentioned myrcene and its effects on mice. Positive or negative is subjective. Also, not every chemical compound in cannabis has even been identified. The complex interactions of just a number of like 70, 80, 100 known compounds is a huge undertaking to try and map out and pin down alone. It would have to be modeled through software on a computer because the human brain will not be able to keep track of that complexity in chemistry. Add in variables like percentages, and the unknown balloons to even greater complexity. New discoveries are still being made. Tell us where we can learn more about the claims you stated. I'm ready for this exciting update. We all will benefit from this knowledge.
 
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To prove this false is big news! Many people will be highly interested.

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I feel bad. I got a little testy after a long day. I’m usually not like that. I apologize.
In my community I've made myself available to hundreds of people, and I managed to make a difference for about 2 maybe 3 people. Those 2 or 3 people really make all the effort worth it.
I have been around this sort of treatment all my life and I have seen it work wonders. For a many, many people with issues just the sheer knowledge that someone else understands and cares enough to sit and listen is a huge benefit. And when some people (even some who were in really bad shape to start with) actually hear and take in the right words of treatment and then implement it into their lives, it ends up being a lifelong cure. I am quite positive you have helped more than two or three people by being a person who cares.
Now, enough about me—let’s talk about my plant some more.
 
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