I'm really not very good at this.

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Could you explain the organic method you use because I'm planning on using compost out of my compost pile, mixed in with Walmart soil, them adding things like worm casting and idk what do you add or how do you setup your soil?
It has to do with uptake of nutrients. Microorganisms in the soil known as mycorrhizae are fungi that have a symbiotic relationship with the roots of the plants. They're common in nature, but I believe most of us use commercially bred types. The symbiotic relationship means the fungi feed to plants and the plants support the fungi. This is why organic growers are mostly unconcerned with pH. Contrast that with synthetic nutrients that the roots uptake directly, which requires a specific soil pH range of about 5.8 to 6.2. This difference often causes confusion.

There isn't a definite soil recipe for organic growing. I started with Fox Farm soil but amend it with other ingredients every time I mix it. By now, it's well composted. I add things like earthworm castings, biochar, azomite, Epsom Salt and gypsum. I also use Gaia Green dry nutrients. I also use perlite and rice hulls for porosity.

I think the best thing about organic growing is how forgiving it is. I've described some of what I do. Others successfully do it differently. If you're interested in learning more, I suggest starting a thread about it. I'm not the only organic grower here.

I'm a little worried my compost might get me bugs though. It's really nice compost lots of good bacteria, but might have bugs too.
Indeed. As a general rule, it's a bad idea to bring anything from the outside into our inside grow space.
 
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It has to do with uptake of nutrients. Microorganisms in the soil known as mycorrhizae are fungi that have a symbiotic relationship with the roots of the plants. They're common in nature, but I believe most of us use commercially bred types. The symbiotic relationship means the fungi feed to plants and the plants support the fungi. This is why organic growers are mostly unconcerned with pH. Contrast that with synthetic nutrients that the roots uptake directly, which requires a specific soil pH range of about 5.8 to 6.2. This difference often causes confusion.

There isn't a definite soil recipe for organic growing. I started with Fox Farm soil but amend it with other ingredients every time I mix it. By now, it's well composted. I add things like earthworm castings, biochar, azomite, Epsom Salt and gypsum. I also use Gaia Green dry nutrients. I also use perlite and rice hulls for porosity.

I think the best thing about organic growing is how forgiving it is. I've described some of what I do. Others successfully do it differently. If you're interested in learning more, I suggest starting a thread about it. I'm not the only organic grower here.


Indeed. As a general rule, it's a bad idea to bring anything from the outside into our inside grow space.
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I picked up some of this the other day this has the main ingredients for the living soil. Was planning on doing half and half of this and some other sort of medium, but then I wasn't sure on what to feed. I also grabbed some worm casting, potash, and some type of fish shit.

I've done some reading on the living soil but I need to do more as my last set.of clones are almost ready to put in dirt. Do you know what the nutrients numbers are on the dry nutrients your using? I can grab some dry slow release nutes.
 
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I picked up some of this the other day this has the main ingredients for the living soil. Was planning on doing half and half of this and some other sort of medium, but then I wasn't sure on what to feed. I also grabbed some worm casting, potash, and some type of fish shit.
I use the same brand of biochar. It's only about 20% of my mixture, though. I don't use potash because potassium is in the fertilizer I use. I also don't use fish shit.

I've done some reading on the living soil but I need to do more as my last set of clones are almost ready to put in dirt.
I don't do living soil. It's similar but not the same.

Do you know what the nutrients numbers are on the dry nutrients your using? I can grab some dry slow release nutes.
I use Gaia Green All Purpose 4-4-4 for vegetation and Power Bloom 2-8-4 for flowering.
 
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I use the same brand of biochar. It's only about 20% of my mixture, though. I don't use potash because potassium is in the fertilizer I use. I also don't use fish shit.


I don't do living soil. It's similar but not the same.


I use Gaia Green All Purpose 4-4-4 for vegetation and Power Bloom 2-8-4 for flowering.
Perfect thanks for the info, very much appreciated.
 
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Wow, your plants look absolutely amazing! You’ve done an incredible job with them—so healthy and vibrant!
Thanks couldn't have made it this far without spider farm awesome gear. 3 years not a single issue, very reliable. We all make mistakes and have issues at times. I'm not scared to show mine and share what I have learned from my mistakes.

Hope you have a nice night good sir. 😎
 
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Yeah I just want bigger harvest, and I always have this issue mid to late flower, so this kinda has given me more insight on the problem. I think promix is good at holding water good at holding nutes, good at holding salt.

To think that a plant might need more water then nutes, who would have thought. 😂🤣 Feed,feed, water, I think is too much, I'm move to a water, water, water feed schedule and see what happens.

The Foliar spray is a great idea I haven't been doing and I have a batch of fox farm flower kisses already made up, I'm give them that tonight.
Man we all strive to be better at this grow game we all love so much. I also grow with Pro mix and I like it much better than Fox Farm soils ime. And since I’ve transitioned to organic growing with adding things like Gaia Green to my grow its doing WAY better than the grows I ran using the FF trio. And I’m really digging just water only. Seems to be so much easier and my plants look way happier. Just some food for thought. Best of luck bro 💯👊🏻
 
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So was flushing with like a gallon runoff and she wasn't getting better. What I had to do to get her to start growing right again. Is i had to take the net out, take the plant to the bathtub, and run water through it for 3-4 different times about 10 minutes a time. Lots and lots of gallons. Not ideal as that happened in the first two weeks of flower (I know I should have waited to flip) but new growth is coming out nice, and buds are growing. Amazing what a heavy flush can do. 😎

Will have to see if I can get a decent harvest out of this. I doubt it but
 
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Nice job on the plant structure she well spread out, stop using recycle media.
 
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So after the big flush I restarted the feed at 1/2 dose. She drinking much faster need to feed every other day instead of of every third day. I gave 3 feeds and then a only water. At the end of the only water feed I seen some discoloring of the leaves. Which I figured was a lack of nutrients at this point because of the major flush and lower feed amount. Resumed feed at 1/2 dose leaf fade seemed to have stopped. Growth is good she drinking fast, everything seems to be on track.

For the person that so kindly informed me that I did not know what I was talking about about and I have to PH the feed and water in promix. I would like to thank you for your concern and I am still NOT ph'ing my water or feed.😎

Just an update on the recovery of my horrid growing technic. Don't be scared to make mistakes, only time I ever come on here is when I am messing something up. 🤣😂🤣😂 You never see me when my grows go good.

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Hope everyone has a nice day. 😎
 
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She still just blooming away. She is ripening a little, but the new white hairs are plentiful.
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Been at half dose on the ferts about 700-900 ppm per watering, feeding every water. Feeding every other day. Last runoff was at 1480. Gave her only water this last time, but have fed ferts at a lower dosage about 9 times without any water in-between to get ppm up that high.
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She has a nice even fade going, this is I assume what you wanna see if it's under fed. Not the patchy fade in some areas and not others.
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Good colas all through the plant. Should be a decent harvest.

Flushing her out massively was the fix I needed. The. Lower amount of nutes did cause some fading in the leaves. But the buds doing decent.

All and all good recovery.

Hope everyone has a great day.
 
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4.88 OZ about average for me per plant. I really need to double that.

Anyways thanks for following along.

Maybe one day I will get good at this. 🤣😂🤣😂 Probably not.

The clones off this one doing fairly well.

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I will come back and post a new topic on these when I fuck them up, shouldn't be too long.
 
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@GNick55 got a question for you. So since I usually get this issue with the stripes on the leaves mid to late flower. Using Strive Nutrients. It's a part A and B same nutes for whole cycle(seedling-flower). I think I might be getting a lock out from an imbalance in nutrients. Too much of something (as you suggested)

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I'm thinking mid flower I should reduce part B and increase part A.

If it's an imbalance of nutrients and not a salt problem this might fix my issue. This would end up being a Lock out due to too much N (nitrogen) .

What do you think about this?

I'm really just guessing and have no idea.
 
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We will have to agree to disagree. Salt based fertilizers have salt in them, too much salt in your soil will create a nutrient lock out. I don't understand why this site will not accept that possibility but it is what it is. Thank you for all your support and help over the years. It's very much appreciated.
I hear that, so I'm here to agree with your assessment.
I flush before planting, and once again before flower.
Good luck!
 
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If that's the scale why does Fox farm include flushes in its feeding schedule? And do they have sledge hammer flush which is designed to create voids in the medium to allow salts to exit?
The salts will rinse away with adequate flushing.
Did you see the quoted post he called me an idiot so I said that's pretty idiotic. I didn't call anyone an idiot.
I saw it, First Blood and all that...
 
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