Jmaes Mabley
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I love it man. Wood heats the good shit. Electic or gas makes me feel stuffy but that sweet ass wood heat man You live in the boonies?Nothing wrong with HID, I still use my gavita for a couple months in the winter for that very reason when we are running the wood burner:)
Weed likes AIR when lights are OUT. A fresh air supply IMHO is essential.
Ive used plenty of CO2 in 40+ years, and never got better yield than when running straight fresh air.
Were getting around 1.6g per watt in a 6 x 5 with a DE Gavita. But we use up to 3 of them, and fresh air only. And in the Fall/Winter. Temps inside are 78-82.
You said earlier you are pulling 4.5 lbs under the 5x6. Thats only .92 grams per watt with 2 gavitas pulling 2200 watts at the wall, and you said sometimes you have 3 gavitas going, thats only .61 grams per watt. Unless I missed something.Weed likes AIR when lights are OUT. A fresh air supply IMHO is essential.
Ive used plenty of CO2 in 40+ years, and never got better yield than when running straight fresh air.
Were getting around 1.6g per watt in a 6 x 5 with a DE Gavita. But we use up to 3 of them, and fresh air only. And in the Fall/Winter. Temps inside are 78-82.
I fully agree, lots of canna myths out there.I completely disagree about he CO2. Fresh air even if it exchanged as fast as it comes in will only be what? 300-500 ppm co2? Supplement co2 will be 1200-1500 whatever you choose. And the room doesn’t have to be sealed 100% but you will be wasting co2. But if the controller is set to 1500 it’s gonna keep it 1500 ppm. Just dep nds how much co2 you’re going to need to use to keep it there. The plants definitely use that extra 1000 ppm.
Also there is no reason to exchange the air. It’s a myth. If the co2 levels are kept up and the environment is dialed you don’t ever have to exchange air. Most people just don’t have a dialed in grow and they add co2 thinking it will get them big yields and all it does magnify they existing problems they haven’t addressed
Kind of, we call it the sticks instead of boonies....I love it man. Wood heats the good shit. Electic or gas makes me feel stuffy but that sweet ass wood heat man You live in the boonies?
I would have to see this to believe it myself.You said earlier you are pulling 4.5 lbs under the 5x6. Thats only .92 grams per watt with 2 gavitas pulling 2200 watts at the wall, and you said sometimes you have 3 gavitas going, thats only .61 grams per watt. Unless I missed something.
You said earlier you are pulling 4.5 lbs under the 5x6. Thats only .92 grams per watt with 2 gavitas pulling 2200 watts at the wall, and you said sometimes you have 3 gavitas going, thats only .61 grams per watt. Unless I missed something.
I agree.I would have to see this to believe it myself.
All I know is if your road ain’t shit it’s not legit lol.Kind of, we call it the sticks instead of boonies....
View attachment 828289 We Bend, and Train our plants to grow Horizontally so all of the secondary shoots grow Vertically, become mains, and Height becomes much less of an issue, though we can get some plants 7+ feet long. Especially if you mercilessly bombard them with light, and a ton of medium from the start.
Main reason Im against Topping is that it gets rid of the Main Meristem, and for every couple inches ect, I keep getting 2 brand new Mains/Internodes. When you cut the tip, this is gone. If can be made up for, but you have to Veg Longer, which violates Rule #1.
I can also manipulate the crap out of the growing tip, and all but stop the vertical growth, but you have to mess with it 3-4 times a day, everyday for a week, or so, but it does the same thing as topping, but still allows for the growing tip.
We also Shake, and bend the branches of each plant, and have several fans going 24/7 even when Lights Out. Theres always a breeze, and fresh air exchange. Always.
Main thing is you have to use a strain that has strong side branching from the start, and we also prefer plants that stretch like a MoFo when flipped. 2x-5x
Our first rule is that when 1st tested, a single plant has to be able to produce 1lb+ in 20 gallons soil within 120 days from seed, with with No Training, and if it cant, we cant use it.
Heres a photo of a Kosher Kush Secondary that was 53 grams trimmed/dried. This is 1 of many from a single plant. This 1 plant got 24oz. Its on my guitar case so its fairly long, but not above average. Buddy also gave me this, and kept the bigger stuff. I gave him the seeds.
Im in fucked up state, and Ive also been had for 1000 clones/feds before-97-2009 worth...., so I possess nothing, but do some collusion.:opps:
I’m just not getting it. 4.5# in a 5x6 under one gavita would be extremely impressive. Just not fathomable. When you post pics like this and claim those numbers it just doesn’t make sense. Normally I don’t really care what people say but there’s new dudes taking those words and gonna try to follow You and this is what they’ll end up with. You would have to fill that 5x6 with trash bags full of these nugs for it to get anywhere near 4.5#.1000w Gavita by 1600+ grams is around 1.6+gs a watt, and we use 3 lights which equals up to 13+lbs if the temps are right. Cant always run 3 lights, and don't always hit 1.6gs either. Optimally they will.
Many using CO2, and strict atmospheric control can easily beat these numbers.
The key is in our situation is keeping everything cool, and airflow.
We don't have elaborate atmospheric control, as we are in an outlaw state, and electricity ect is limited as to not draw attention. Even have to watch buying Promix BX.
I have always agreed gpw doesn't mean much. We need a better measure of success. I always liked the grams per kwh idea or something like that.I’m just not getting it. 4.5# in a 5x6 under one gavita would be extremely impressive. Just not fathomable. When you post pics like this and claim those numbers it just doesn’t make sense. Normally I don’t really care what people say but there’s new dudes taking those words and gonna try to follow You and this is what they’ll end up with. You would have to fill that 5x6 with trash bags full of these nugs for it to get anywhere near 4.5#.
Not to mention GPW means nothing. If you’re vegging 2 months what does GPW really mean when you’ve spent 2 months of electric on that gpw.
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