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I've never had the pleasure of meeting him, nor, really had a good chance to look at his system in detail. Dealing with his legend is a lot like... well, like dealing with a legend! You get a lot of hype, but the substance has been hard for me to find.
This is why I appreciate Cap's efforts here to shed some light on DD's techniques, so I can see them for myself with some hope of objectivity.
Tty I can assure you that this system has left some Farmers heartbroken and broke. It's a motherfucker even at 2lbs a site when u look at the requisite imputs, space, and time (especially vegging in system, jeeze) to get to harvest.
I believe you. My interest in seeing his system in operation is not to blithely copy it, but rather to study its strengths- and weaknesses- to help further my own understanding of hydroponic system design.
Others have echoed your thoughts above about his setup. I'm thinking there has to be some competent, trick or approach that merits closer investigation, or it would not have achieved such legendary status. Then again, it's also possible that whatever made his system great back in the day is now in broad use and thus isn't as special or unique as it once was.
who here besides Cap continues to kill it in mpbs run after run?
^^^^ that would be my question.
Where is bossman these days?
Um. To my mind the 'legend' comes from savvy self promotion at a time when few growers had experience with such large plants - particulalry the 4lbs/site yield claim. Remember the mpb dates to 2009! The north american transition to small numbers of large plants was just beginning when the system appeared.
Farmers wewerere salivating to ape it.
But everyone that copied it either had pythium at week 5 or ended up with a finished run that was less than half of dd's claims - regardless of strain choice. And then of course dd was completely absent to explain things.
It seems to me the uc does a similar job in all functional respects - nevermind folks have continued to fashion other effective large scale rdwc systems.
It is however a fascinating system for study and design. This is true, no doubt.
And Capulators execution is gorgeous. :)
Cap is that month and a half veg time in that system? or do you veg in a seperate area and move them into that room to keep the flower cycle constant ?
Lots of guys had pythium prohlems with that system ever had issues?
Yea doubled is a polarizing cat. It seems that many Farmers built out his system to find his claimed results not very reproducible . . Like guys with mad experience and good genetics could get 1/3 maybe 1/2 his claimed yields.
^^^^ that would be my question.
Where is bossman these days?
Tty I can assure you that this system has left some Farmers heartbroken and broke. It's a motherfucker even at 2lbs a site when u look at the requisite imputs, space, and time (especially vegging in system, jeeze) to get to harvest.
At 2# a site you are stoked. Trust me. That works out to roughly 2# per light, but with way less plants.
6 weeks for veg?? That must inlcude your cloning time right? Veg time for me and others in MPB with 45 inch centers is a week tops. But that's starting from a 10 inch tall rooted plant. So 2 weeks total from a rooted cutting.
That includes cloning time yes. Also, it is 100% strain dependent. I am trying to set things up so there is no veg time at all in the flower room. Straight to flip.
This will really help speed up crop times
That includes cloning time yes. Also, it is 100% strain dependent. I am trying to set things up so there is no veg time at all in the flower room. Straight to flip.
I will put together a list of all the components and pricing soon.
There won't be any plants in this thread, it will be strictly the build out (components and how to)
A newbie here awaiting patiently for the list of all the components and pricing... thank you for sharing, sir!
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