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So can someone provide pictures of True Organics of their own built soil and show their girls Perfect with No yellowing anywhere as well as nothing else.?! All of their plants not just one select one.
Because I really think it's still lacking... The hydro store guy haha helped me a lot but he still thinks I need to use Bottled nutes to really push the plant to the fullest extent. I did buy a compost tea kit but should I snag some grow and bloom and BioHeaven?!?!! I just want the best and tired of all the bull shit!
I think I'm going to test my soil too
So can someone provide pictures of True Organics of their own built soil and show their girls Perfect with No yellowing anywhere as well as nothing else.?! All of their plants not just one select one.
Because I really think it's still lacking... The hydro store guy haha helped me a lot but he still thinks I need to use Bottled nutes to really push the plant to the fullest extent. I did buy a compost tea kit but should I snag some grow and bloom and BioHeaven?!?!! I just want the best and tired of all the bull shit!
I think I'm going to test my soil too
Well said and beautiful plants!I only use ROLS (recycled organic living soil) with no bottled nutes at all. I feed with Compost tea, Worm tea, SST Tea and a few Nutrient Teas. I top dress a couple times per grow with different items depending on strain and plant needs.
I flower in three gallon tall containers. Very seldom do i have any deficiency issues at all. I personally believe organics give you a richer flavor/aroma. I also believe it's usually more potent and all around healthier. Again I'm just stating personal opinion not knocking what other people do.
The way I look at it nature has been doing it for over a 500 million years, so i'll bet on her experience over what the guy at the hydro store says.
Here are a few shots of some of my girls past and present.
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Thanks brother. I'm glad you said that, that's kind of what he was saying and I read that bottles bring faster growth.It's true that organic soil is hard to dial in , inside. But once your recipe is refined it smooth sailing. I've seen tons of non deficiency organic soil grows.
Organic=Quality and Flavor.
Bottles =Quantity and Fast growth.
Pick one.
Just my opinion.
Peace
But see maybe that fermented shit Is good...?! Kind of like SSTs...It's absolutely possible and not as hard as one might lead you to believe. There's a simple reason why the hydro store guy says it can't be done without bottles but I'm sure you already know why that is
If your plants are not performing well in organics it's because somethings missing or out of balance in the soil and has nothing to do with organics WORKING or not. I'll throw up a few pictures later when I'm home but in the meantime, Google search grasscity no till and start reading that thread. Bluejay has some beautiful pictures on there to give you a idea of how well organics can work, I'm talking real organics and not some fermented shit in a bottle with acids to stabilize it. The only additives I use from a bottle are fulvic acids and silica and my plants have never looked better.
Those are perfect! What's your recipe?I only use ROLS (recycled organic living soil) with no bottled nutes at all. I feed with Compost tea, Worm tea, SST Tea and a few Nutrient Teas. I top dress a couple times per grow with different items depending on strain and plant needs.
I flower in three gallon tall containers. Very seldom do i have any deficiency issues at all. I personally believe organics give you a richer flavor/aroma. I also believe it's usually more potent and all around healthier. Again I'm just stating personal opinion not knocking what other people do.
The way I look at it nature has been doing it for over a 500 million years, so i'll bet on her experience over what the guy at the hydro store says.
Here are a few shots of some of my girls past and present.
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I'm not saying in anyway what your doing is wrong. However using Dragonfly is not anywhere near the same as using bottled nutes organic or otherwise. It would be like saying using Kelp Meal is the same as using BioBizz. The biggest difference is bottled nutes even organic bottled nutes use chelating salts and/or acids in their products to keep them stable. Those are not something a no till gardener ever wants in the soil, as they will minimize or damage the micro heard.
Just a quick test stick a PH pen in any bottled nutes and it will be in the 3's or lower. That in my opinion that's not something you want to put in your soil regularly if you're truly organic no till.
Again do what works for you. One way is not better than another just choices being made. However there are big differences in those two ways of growing fundamentally.
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But you see I was getting great results with Just soil. But my plants are Definitely much happier and Fuller and thicker buds because of feeding BioBizz. Also adding OSA/28 and trying Deep6... When it's Just soil the Microbes have to break the ingredients down so the plant can consume the nutrients, so if you Build your soul And have liquid fertilizer then you are able to provide Immediate nutrition and it will break down the rest for me. I use almost 1/4 of advised nutrients for a light fertilized soil, Half of their All mix schedule, and my girls could Nlt be happier!!! I have Double the size of buds than when I fed Just water. And if you watch BigTime no till growers like Alan with Gage Green and Probiotics GroKashi, or themodern.farm they use no till BUT they Also use DragonFly Earth Medicine nutrients as well, and give Top dressings of EWC and GroKashi and other stuff Weekly if not Twice a week. So essentially they are doing the same thing as building/amending a soil and using bottle nutrients like BioBizz.
But see maybe that fermented shit Is good...?! Kind of like SSTs...
I'll test BioBizz nutes later today and let you know. And I definitely gotcha, wondered why they say to flush at the end. And I wasn't ever keeping the soil in the pots, I dump them out and amend the soil once I build up a used pile again. I don't have the time or space to leave everything in the pots and have 20gl pots when I can do the same in 2gl pots.! And honestly I believe tilling Is beneficial, as they did for Thousands of years, it creates a fermentation under the soil... Look up Dry Farming they basically do the same thing.@cannakis
I'm not saying in anyway what your doing is wrong. However using Dragonfly is not anywhere near the same as using bottled nutes organic or otherwise. It would be like saying using Kelp Meal is the same as using BioBizz. The biggest difference is bottled nutes even organic bottled nutes use chelating salts and/or acids in their products to keep them stable. Those are not something a no till gardener ever wants in the soil, as they will minimize or damage the micro heard.
Just a quick test stick a PH pen in any bottled nutes and it will be in the 3's or lower. That in my opinion that's not something you want to put in your soil regularly if you're truly organic no till.
Again do what works for you. One way is not better than another just choices being made. However there are big differences in those two ways of growing fundamentally.
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Not first hand but that is All that Gage Green Group uses and they are definitely some of the Top breeders growers in the world right now.!I know it's a bit off topic, but someone brought up Dragonfly Earth Medicine...has anybody here ever used their products? I was thinking about picking up the fat flowers and seeing if it made any noticeable difference.
I'm pretty sure they Do use them. And Most big growers half the time don't pay for nutes everyone sends them shit for free so they can Test and Review it...Yea, I see a lot of the popular instagram growers saying they use it right now. That and OSA28 seems to be all the rage with the instagrowers. Problem is, we all know how sponsorship goes. I don't know any of the breeders or growers personally, so I'm just curious how many of them actually use the products they "hashtag."
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