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No not if they are heavy, but dont let them go more then 2 days without food! Are you feeding them the whole Canna nutrient line or just the A&B? Like are you adding cannazyme and rhizo too?Just a update if anyone interested lol
They where fed yesterday to run off
Feed
150-200ppm cal-mag
And 300-350ppm of A&B can coco feed
Total 500ppm. That's 1.0e.c
They looking better now ,
I didn't water today as the coco it still soaking if I pick pot yo very heavy and still drips out bottom, they are not sitting in runoff,
My plan is when roots show out bottom of the new pots their in ill water more often eventually daily..
THCMonster would you be watering daily with pot's still very wet and heavy?
I know they say water to run off brings fresh oxygen in to the roots but if had problems Many times with watering clones everyday
Here are sine pics from.today
On 1.0 e.c thats with 0.2-0.4 cal
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Not using cannyzm yetNo not if they are heavy, but dont let them go more then 2 days without food! Are you feeding them the whole Canna nutrient line or just the A&B? Like are you adding cannazyme and rhizo too?
Cause they will root out way faster with 150-200ppm of rhizo also added on. Rhizo is also your natural PH up too.
They still look lime green to me! They need more food!
You want them between dark green and light green. After a few feeding i would up the A&B to 450ppm.
But they are definitely looking better!
You want to get them to this shade of green! Or as close as you can
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Hi mate thanks for the infoBro, my suggestion would have been to foliar some of that cal mag at a low strength, say 1/8th.
Then while that should help, work out what's going on in the root system.
Someone I know says the prebuffered coco is SHITE. Some even have runoff off over 2.0EC straight outta the bag, and very acidic, ridiculous.
Always check and know what's in your medium before planting. If it had an EC of 0.2, there could be something in it your plants didn't like. I hear of people flushing large quantities of fluid through their mediums in some situations like yours, i.e not always straight water, just a larger amount of a normal feed water to help flush out any crap that may be in the medium.
Other thing could be to get a new bottle or brand of nutes. I consider sometimes, certain nutrients might "turn" from age or heat for eg. and cause lockouts.
All the best!
Edit, looking at the photis again of your runoff, my money is on the "prebuffered" or unwashed coco you used. The plants just did not like it. Only way would be the flush the medium with a proper balance of nutes.
Always remember that with coco, you can go up to 6.3 to 6.5 if you have trouble keeping your plants green. And always remember you'll be feeding alot of the calmag to the coco itself, the plant will need extra.
I add cannyzm at 2.5ml a litre as the canna chart says, but it seems a lot I seem to put less a&b as they small and try keep my ppm down , I usually add it later on when their bigger.They're getting better! You could use the Rhizotonic at 6ml/gal instead of full strength.
I'm surprised the Cannazym adds 100ppm. When i add 9ml/gal it only adds 40-50ppm. Are you sure this is correct? I'd use 100-150ppm of calmag instead of 150-200ppm.
So....
tap water = about 100ppm
A + B = 400ppm
Rhizotonic = 50ppm
Cannazym = 50ppm
That should be about 600ppm total. That's exactly what I feed my plants at pH 6.0
Ye knew his stuff ,I think you're on the right track! At this point, just keep doing what you're doing! Like you said, just give them more time. They're growing well at this point, so they'll keep getting better looking as the new growth comes in.
Seems like you're figuring it all out!
Monster's grow tips are on point.
Calmag every other watering is an option. Or, my personal approach is keep in continually but at a lower dose. There are definitely WRONG answers to many things in growing.. but most things have many approaches that work. Finding out what works for YOU is half the battle
I'll try that tomorrow I'll change the water, roots groot growth is very goodHmm. Cloning can be complicated
I'd give them 3-4ml/gal each of A + B. The extra cal-mag is for the coco itself, not necessarily for the plant. You could put 1-2ml/gal of cal-mag. I'd use 6ml/gal of Rhizotonic. Then keep the pH wherever you like it at for clones. Me personally, i always keep it right around 6.0, but 5.8 is fine too
Also - light color on new growth is fine, as long as the plant grows out of it. Once the leaves get a little larger they might darken up
Looking better again, and have grown a bit , I fed yesterday but not today as coco still soaking I'll water tomorrow now.
So far cal-mag and upping my feed e.c
Has really pulled these giros around.
THCmonster thank you for the help buddy
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I was wondering do i need cal-mag in my clone machine is did in the coco.
My problem is I use to use nutrients for soft water. Now on canna coco in my clone machine i always get some yellowing at the start since using canna coco nutrients. But with my old nutrients I didn't get it well nowhere as bad
reason i changed nutrients was my old nutrient's had a very high npk.
here is a picture if my cutting they where started in 0.4-0.6 e.c. thats 200-300 ppm
before roots showed and today I upped to 0.6 e.c thats 300 ppm , ph 5.8
My tap water ppm is 0.75ppm
im not sure why they are yellowing never use to with my old nutrients in the pics below but with cana coco nutrients in my cloner they seem to yellow
is it because these nutrients are for coco only, or do I need calmag?
Or is it I just need more feed a&b.
hard to see in the pics but the top of every cutting the where new growth would be is so yellow its almost white.
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Her my are my old nutrients using these nutrients I never had yellowing like this in my clone machine, but with can a coco I get this yellowing
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