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Those korean and japanese methods sound like spot on for me! Jadam! I'm excited! Great tip, never knew those things even exist. I like that "Shepard of The Soil"- thing, i'd love to be something like that, even though atm it feels like I have a long way to go, starting point being like "Executor of The Soil".No need to thank me. I wanna see everyone involved with growing to prosper.
Correct on the no rushing the natural processes. If i was you I would begin today on creating a compost pile. Banana peels, used coffee grounds, egg shells, alot of leaves from your yard, and mix well. Add water and let it do its thing. May have to turn your pile with a shovel to keep heat levels down depending on how large your compost pile is.
Since you said youre in the middle of nowhere i would suggest reading up and watching alot of videos on korean natural farming and its brother called Jadam...these are little to no cost ways of gardening and growing all organic plants. They use ingredients that are already in your house or very easily obtainable. Its practically free to begin making what they call "inputs"...these vary, some create the nutrients the plant needs like your NPK's and the other nutes needed and then theres also their microbiological inputs which add beneficial bacteria into your soil, the microbiology is of the upmost importance in soil as they actually feed your plant, not you! See how youre adding coffee and pine etc...well the baxteria and fungi are the ones who go at that stuff and then break it down making it available for your plant, your roots dont want coffee, they want what the coffee and pine is made up of. So by utilizing jadam and KNF, you become the shepard of the soil and its microbiology, then they do all the hard work...not just breaking down food for your plant but also fending off unwanted microbial life and unwanted fungus...a living healthy rootzone will work wonders for your plant..they microbiology will also fix your PH and keep it regulated as lomg as you dont overdo it with any of the nutes.
Making their inputs are SIMPLE and take a little time to create. Legit if you started today within 1 week to 10 days you can make about 5 of their inputs inorder to begin feeding your soil ASAP!
IF you take the jadam and KNF route, jusy make sure to learn as much as possible. Come back here and ask questions and then cross check the answers with the information provided by jadam and KNF. I highly suggest this to all who grow organic but even more for you being that youre out in the middle of nowhere and supplies arent easy to come by.
I didn't understood perfectly few things you wrote, I'll translate them later today.ok, so they are autos... transplanting into anything isnt usually a good idea. looks like you started them and then transplanted already one time? mostly... start an auto in the pot it will end in.
if you were experienced i could see you maybe salvaging some in a transplant. but these are pretty wrecked.
you are a new grower, so just keep on keeping on, but today, in one of the 3 gallon (that is the 11l pots) start a brand new seed. use the paper towel method, or the water or whatever, but when it hits soil, make sure it is where it will end up. your 3 gallon (11l) are the smallest id go.
the soil is ph'd buffered to 6.5. no need to mess with ph.
dont feed it till you see those two very first leaves at the bottom turning yellow.
when you start it, water it. it most likely wont need water for a very long time.
it has that one tap root and that will try its best to get to the bottom of whatever pot you use. luckily, with gravity being what it is, the water made its way down too. so adding water while this one tiny little root is creeping to the bottom will go a long way into drowning it.
^^^^ that is one reason many want you to use a photo. at this point (and its looking like you did that) you made the little root gasp for air in the pool of water that is now its home. with a photo, you correct yourself, and pluck the dead stuff and wait longer. with an auto not so much.
if you were experienced i could suggest some things you could try to fool it into waiting to flower, but im gonna guess that wouldnt work if you dont have experience.
once you are to this point, it is much easier. there is an overwhelming urge to water it in a day, 2...3...4... but in that pot, it will be more like over a week. next, and this is important, read all the watering guides here. but start with this:
Marijuana Watering, how media, pot size/shape and environment affect it
Ok lots of posts on how to water plants. So I thought I would put together a thread on how different factors contribute to different results that ppl see. This will be a long read based on my personal knowledge, opinions, research and others work to consolidate information for our members. I'm...www.thcfarmer.com
for the next bit, watch, and wait. the plant will tell you what it wants. you can inflict the most damage to an auto by thinking you can mess with it like a photo.
these plants will never produce much, they are stunted. and they eat resources ($, ferts, time, equipment) so, that is a decision for you. throw money at it and not get much, or restart and throw time at it and try to get more.
it would be a learning thing, but you would not really get that good warm fuzzy feeling from a good grow.
what light do you have? and what is the rest of the equipment situation (exhaust? fans? hum/dehum? temps and humidity? tent?)
keep in mind, autos are good, they are just not forgiving. photos are forgiving but come with a different set of issues like a need for a "total" dark cycle that autos dont need.
i guess i am most interested in the light, which do you have and what size space?
not at all what i said. i said i am pro autos. i feel people should start learning with autos. most people cant maintain a dark period and the environmental concerns involved in photos, they end up with 3 months of vegged plant with no structure and either plucked to death or netted too early or fed and watered so wrong it is sick... so they veg for a quarter of a year, then flower for a quarter of a year and get larf and seeds so they give up, or start over and over and over till they get something in a few years.And as stealth said about the autos, seems more for the experienced growers ...
Never done autos and see no reason to start. IMO most modern photoperiod hybrids can be grown seed to harvest in 90-100 days. I see ne reason to ever veg more than 20-30 days. This is 82 days from seed.you want mist?
you need to get a grip on heat from your pics, and several look like they are unhappy about the light, but might just be heat with your light choice.
not at all what i said. i said i am pro autos. i feel people should start learning with autos. most people cant maintain a dark period and the environmental concerns involved in photos, they end up with 3 months of vegged plant with no structure and either plucked to death or netted too early or fed and watered so wrong it is sick... so they veg for a quarter of a year, then flower for a quarter of a year and get larf and seeds so they give up, or start over and over and over till they get something in a few years.
with the autos, you plant them, you know at about 2 weeks if it will go, then you have product to trim and giggle over in about 7 or 8 more weeks. if at about 10 to 20 days, you know it wont work, start over and you still have product in 10 more weeks. so you spend half the time, and get a result. then you aim for a better result and you improve your setup and you keep on keeping on.
i do not agree with keeping the auto after you see it is not great. toss and start again.
as for photos, and just an observable point, new people start them, they start with trying to over/under feed, over pluck, over everything them and keep going. so they are not ever ontop of learning to water (there is proof, look at the number of watering issues here! or anywhere on the net!)
they over water, then they post and people here say cal/mag, ph, a this or that deficiency but most of the time, it is that they never actually learned to water the plant. but you look at their pics and they have plucked, topped, clipped and netted the thing into oblivion. with an auto you are told not to. so you concentrate on environment and water. you can do things to an auto, but the general consensus and what is normally told is dont top, dont transplant, dont do anything that might upset her, so in all that not doing, you want to do something so you learn to water and keep your environment pleasant.
autos need the same things that any plant needs, the only difference is it keeps going through its timeline of life. photos, stay in one time of life till you make them go to the next.
autos are less likely to hermie (although so many dont know this, but look up the peer reviewed studies from wa state and the 2 from quebec institute and the 2 recent ones from the bc lab. they are scientific papers, if you are in school you can probably get them free, just use your college search feature and search autoflower, photoperiod, hermaphrodite and it returns about 20, you can see the ones on what you want.)
once you learn a few things, get more and better equipment, go through the goldilocks stuff then you will naturally move to some photos. and then you can mess with some topping, some pinching and some plucking and can be confident your environmental concerns are under control.
i agree, YOU CAN DO THAT... but a brand new, first grow doesnt go like that. it goes with the new grower having a lot of small hiccups and a couple big ones and fixing and waiting for recovery and doing that a few times.Never done autos and see no reason to start. IMO most modern photoperiod hybrids can be grown seed to harvest in 90-100 days. I see ne reason to ever veg more than 20-30 days. This is 82 days from seed.
I don't want to jack this thread. Glad to answer any questions and share info here or pm.i agree, YOU CAN DO THAT... but a brand new, first grow doesnt go like that. it goes with the new grower having a lot of small hiccups and a couple big ones and fixing and waiting for recovery and doing that a few times.
you missed my point.
you have to learn what you learned to get the results you get.
and btw, i was looking for you! i have some questions about what you do specifically.
1. you said several times 20 - 30 days veg, is there a specific thing you look for that happens about that time (some say when the not alternating branching starts, some say ... well they say a lot... but you have been doing this, and you have a system) i wondered if there was some trigger, or maybe just the day that happens between 10 and 20 where you dont have a hot date or a good movie...
2. do you prefer seeds or clones or just whatever is there?
3. what ferts or foods or the like do you use?
i ask for many reasons, but the biggest is that you seem to have a system and it seems straight and smooth. i like that and love knowing these data points! im not wanting to steal your method or things nefarious like that, i am just a curious sort. ...and forgive my brazenness... your shit dont stink
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