I think a lot depends on strain and how you grow them. How many times did you top? How long did you veg after the last topping?For the past 2 grows I’ve done a experiment. Both grows I topped 2 and left 2 to grow normally. Each grow the un topped plants had a lot bigger harvests. I thought topping increases yield but it didn’t for me. I’m topping them correctly and they are coming out good. But why are my un topped plants giving me a bigger harvest? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
Superb post @aquqman ....everyone wants an answer....but the one they want and don't give people an answer they don't want. Good thing there are no absolutes in weed growing or life. I believe @Moshmen, @1diesel1, and you do everything you possibly can to help people. I say bless you and thank you from the bottom of my heart. My world would be so much more isolated and lonely without the farmers on this site.What do you mean by bigger harvest?
Bigger buds?
Total weight?
Total saleable size bud?
Imo topping doesn’t increase yield. It provides more even bud size and distribution leading to less popcorn waste and more mid size colas.
Topping in itself is an effective way to get better distribution of bud and make better use of a light source thats only from above to get better overall photosynthesis of the plant as a whole.
In cannabis nothing is as simple as saying topping increases yield… and while it may in some cases that doesn’t mean it will.
This is a frustration i see daily. People have been led to believe if you do this then that happens and if you do that then this happens.
In cannabis the answer is almost always it depends and people need to back off with the claims.
More light will give you bigger buds….ONLY if your capable for providing the extra demands that that creates.
We have to stop this all or none thought process, definitive answers for one variable and start thinking in terms of multiple variables.
When you have an equation that requires 50 inputs to give answer and you have 1 input dont have a chance of getting the right answer.
Tldr: is topping beneficial? Yes it can be for the right reasons and sometimes that will mean an increase in yields
Is topping beneficial in every situation? Absolutely not…. And sometimes it may hurt yields
This is not directed at anyone but rather everyone to stop and think about how complex these plants are.
There is very few if an easy answers when growing these plants.
I want to see everyone succeed and thats why the long winded post.
If someone tells you something question the why, how, and when it works before you believe it.
We are becoming all about the instant gratification and answers these days
@Ilike2grow im sorry your impression didn’t work out and if you like i can try to get help you understand some of the intricacies involved in topping if you like
How late was the last topping? It's about strain and structure, density ans size. Indoor indicas might not need to be topped, whereas some sativas have to be topped or bent or both.I only topped them once. I vegged them for 8 weeks. You’d think the topped ones would have more.
This community is awesome and I wouldn’t know half of what i have learned without them all.Superb post @aquqman ....everyone wants an answer....but the one they want and don't give people an answer they don't want. Good thing there are no absolutes in weed growing or life. I believe @Moshmen, @1diesel1, and you do everything you possibly can to help people. I say bless you and thank you from the bottom of my heart. My world would be so much more isolated and lonely without the farmers on this site.
You mean what kind of underwear do old people wear -- that depends..“In cannabis the answer is almost always it depends...”
Swap cannabis for life lol. I know a few different disciplines where “it depends” is the prevailing answer to any question.
On my current grow I topped the plants 4 times and kept them in veg for 3 months (all planned ahead) and did LST, pruning fan leaves and watering really slowly. This grow I got a CO2 bag for flower and I think the plants this grow have more 'frosting' -- same strain Exotic Genetics O-Face that I grew last time. 1st time user of Terp Tea in both late veg and flower; so many variables it is impossible to figure out which witch is which.Lst and keeping the canopy reasonably even will do the same thing produce pretty even size buds without the added stress of the topping I’ve always found my plants get to bunched up if I top them indoor plants anyway
providing the optimal conditions to support all those extra buds....separates good from great results. True 'nuf.I mean, think of any other fruiting or flowering plant. Take Serrano Chili Peppers for example (not an apple to apple comparison but still a good example). I always top these plants to increase my overall yield as it promotes more top growth increasing the flower sites for peppers to grow.
The peppers don't get larger in size because I topped the plant. Actually the plant will use more resources because of the increase in flowers and fruit production. If the conditions are not on par for various reasons my peppers production/size will be below standard. If the seasonal conditions are perfect I'll end up with nice sized peppers in mass.
Weed is the same, if you top, provide LST...etc but don't have optimal conditions to support all those extra buds and growth you can bet your plant will show it in the fruit/flower production.
For the past 2 grows I’ve done a experiment. Both grows I topped 2 and left 2 to grow normally. Each grow the un topped plants had a lot bigger harvests. I thought topping increases yield but it didn’t for me. I’m topping them correctly and they are coming out good. But why are my un topped plants giving me a bigger harvest? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
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