Its about time! Write down these guys names..And vote accordingly

[caregiverken]

Congress Moves To Stop DEA Funding To Attack Medical Marijuana Patients & Care Givers

 

[outwest]

Nice. I'll take what I can get. That's for sure. Thanks, Ken.

outwest

 

[green punk]

Good one Ken. Thanks

 

[caregiverken]

It looked like a there was a lot of support....

I just finished whatchng...it did not pass...:mad:

they said it was too late in the day I guess :confused:

 

[socalval]

bummer it didnt pass . but its a model for the future .

 

[fishwhistle]

It might not of passed this time but this out of the box thinking is the way to shut those fuckers down!Go after their money and they will get the message PRONTO.

 

[Cannasoir]

The DEA needs to be using the resources wisely somewhere else. But then, we all know this. They need to crack down on the meth and crack labs. But this argument has been made many times before. America, in my opinion, seems to just be going down hill faster and faster. For things to change I see a large riots and protests coming up . Just like what we have been hearing about in the middle east is going to happen here.

 

[caregiverken]

I completely agree with everything you wrote there Cannasoir

Get ready for the riots folks

 

[kolah]

I honestly believe the pricks in power want the riots. This will give them the excuse to take over the streets with military force. We saw it in the 60's but this time it will be utter madness at a full-blown scale. Guns will be of little use against modern military weaponry. But guns will help us to protect us from looters and other commoners who may want to take our stuff. Interesting times we are living in.

Honestly I do not think there will be any election this year. But it really doesn't matter anyways. The agenda is already in place and already enacted.

 

[Cannasoir]

I see a complete revolution coming. Something on a grand scale that will either end with the world changing for the better , or most everyone ending up at a fema camp. There are already signs of it begging, I think the world is going to end up just like George Orwell described way back in the early 40's.

 

[Cannasoir]

I honestly believe the pricks in power want the riots. This will give them the excuse to take over the streets with military force. We saw it in the 60's but this time it will be utter madness at a full-blown scale. Guns will be of little use against modern military weaponry. But guns will help us to protect us from looters and other commoners who may want to take our stuff. Interesting times we are living in.

Honestly I do not think there will be any election this year. But it really doesn't matter anyways. The agenda is already in place and already enacted.

I have been expecting this for some years now. I just wish I was in the financial position to start preparing.

 

[kolah]

All things are cyclic. Read history. We are just at the end of an old era and soon to be in a new beginning. A better one in fact. As Beatle George Harrison sang: "All things must pass" :)

When TSHTF they will be the "quick die-offs." These will be the very old (and others) who rely on their medications (BP meds, diabetics, oxygen, etc) and will no longer be able to get them. Then think about all the people on addictive drugs like oxys, morphine, anti-depressants, Ridalin, etc that won't have access to them. We will have hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of people going cold turkey and they will be willing to kill anything to get their fixes. If one chooses to invest in a good barter/trading commodity, stock up on pharma drugs (even penicillin). I made the choice to stock up on tobacco and coffee and some emergency medical supplies. Booze is another good one (and MJ, of course). Do not forget about precious WATER, too.

Except for water (most folks had wells) these are some of the things that were precious during The Great Depression of the 20's and 30's. (also of high value were chocolate, femimine toiletries, hand tools, horses, wood, etc) And BTW, you won't be able to eat gold or other precious metals and that is why I never invested in the the gold and silver markets. Although those assests may be good once the smoke clears.

And if I am right, the SHTF scenario will be around the winter times when survival will be more of a challenge for a large portion of people in the good ol' US of A.

 

[caregiverken]

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, you won't be able to eat gold or other precious metals and that is why I never invested in the the gold and silver markets. Although those assests may be good once the smoke clears.

And if I am right, the SHTF scenario will be around the winter times when survival will be more of a challenge for a large portion of people in the good ol' US of A.

Always Great posts Kolah. I wanted talk about the gold and silver thing....
I agree you cant eat gold.. But Silver has Many uses..;)
Gold and silver Protect wealth...they have been valuable Forever .
I agree you will not want to be trying to buy things with gold During the SHTF....
You wanna keep it buryed somewhere...or on your person...to bribe to fema camp gaurds....

Im sure Food will be Money for a bit...after SHTF...


But Silver was money less than 50 years ago..

and Any old worn 1964 silver quarter will still buy a loaf of bread...(after a trip to the coin shop)

Those Silver dollars that the US government took away in 64 and replaced with a piece of paper,
the silver in those is worth 22 bucks today....And its down in price at the moment

Good time to buy silver.

 

[sanvanalona]

I have only one question about revolution?

Will it be televised?

 

[kolah]

You are spot on Ken! The "Gold Standard." There would be no "inflation" if we still used silver and gold. Ron Paul talks of this in more detail in his books. There has never been a society that lasted using paper currency aka fiat money. It always crashes and burns. It was in 1913 and the creation of the FRS by a few bankers that undermined this country (and other world countries) which put us where we are today. It was no accident, all well thought-out, planned and executed. Money is power. This is why anyone who is anybody has been bought out by the world bankers and their elite one-percenters. It was only possible when our presidents sold us out and gave that authority to the Banksters....which by the way was totally unconstitutional. Treason at it's worse.

Savanlona, I am not so sure there will be any type of revolution at all. Too many sheeple living in fear, denial and self servitude. They continue to think their beloved government will make it all better instead of realizing it is the government who has actually created this fricken mess. They will be more than willing to hop on a truck to enter FEMA camps to get food, water and shelter.

Just ask the Native American Indians how that worked out for them. As Lakota tribe activist Russell Means recently said to the American people, "Welcome to the Reservation."

 

[caregiverken]

You are spot on Ken! The "Gold Standard." There would be no "inflation" if we still used silver and gold. Ron Paul talks of this in more detail in his books. There has never been a society that lasted using paper currency aka fiat money. It always crashes and burns. It was in 1913 and the creation of the FRS by a few bankers that undermined this country (and other world countries) which put us where we are today. It was no accident, all well thought-out, planned and executed. Money is power. This is why anyone who is anybody has been bought out by the world bankers and their elite one-percenters. It was only possible when our presidents sold us out and gave that authority to the Banksters....which by the way was totally unconstitutional. Treason at it's worse.

Savanlona, I am not so sure there will be any type of revolution at all. Too many sheeple living in fear, denial and self servitude. They continue to think their beloved government will make it all better instead of realizing it is the government who has actually created this fricken mess. They will be more than willing to hop on a truck to enter FEMA camps to get food, water and shelter.

Just ask the Native American Indians how that worked out for them. As Lakota tribe activist Russell Means recently said to the American people, "Welcome to the Reservation."

I quoted you Kolah so Hopefully everyone reading this would read it again.

and I hope they realize that the us gov took away everyones money an made us all slaves...

"They" gave us paper "credits" they call money...but that paper has no real value...and those metal coins are really worth less...(exect pre 82 pennys and pre 2012 nickels. look up their value at coinflation.com)

If I had Money in the Bank...I would take it out and Buy silver from the coin dealer today.
The Banks Will Crash...And So will the "dollar"
But Im poor and hopeing to get my 1st pensoin check I have been wait two months for!! :mad:
I do have Dry food stockpiled and plenty of rabbit and other varmets shoot and eat if need be;)

 

[kolah]

The more I think on this the more I go back to my roots based on simplicity. Fuck money and what it stands for. Why not create a society where things that hold value can be exchanged for other things of value?...aka barter and trade. Much like the settlers and Indians did and I am sure many other civilizations long ago. For example, everyone has something of value and say I have fresh tomatoes. I need some firewood. Ken has firewood. We work out and agree to a fair trade and off we go. The only people who would not like this idea are the lazy fucks. Because they would get nothing if they have nothing and were too lazy to make something of themselves. Survival of the fittest at work. This would make people PRODUCTIVE. This would make people feel as though they themselves are worth something. People who can take care of themselves and families are very proud people. Just look and talk to the old timers who survived on their own and were still happy as shit. They had no debt, they lived simple and were not forced to be slaves working some shitty-ass job being paid peanuts.

I always look at the Amish and Mennonites and adore the interesting way they live. I like it, except for the "religion" stuff. But they raise their children to be craftsmen and show them how to work with their hands. They are masters of all trades which is well-needed for them to survive and be happy. They are leather-smiths and black smiths, carpenters and farmers and well-round horsemen, and they keep it simple.

As far as gold, silver and precious metals go? I do not like how they mine for it. It's toxic to the planet and us. The extraction process and use of cyanide is deadly. Uranium mining is even worse. And in todays greedy and corrupted world, only the very rich elites have all the rights to mine for precious metals and us simpletons do not. Not cool in my books. So the rich will get richer and the rest of us will fight over the leftovers, the tiny crumbs of gold and silver and attempt to make a decent living off of it. But yes, as the modern world is today, the precious metals hold great buying power. I decided to put what little money I had elsewhere. I wished I had invested in some, but oh well. My focus was moreso on buying acreage and creating my own self-sufficient lifestyle. I was tired of the slavery that I was born into.

I would rather see people create a skill or two, advance their God-given talents and then have something to be proud of. Then use whatever that skill may be to barter and trade and to sustain a happy lifestyle. But as I have said before, I was born in the wrong g-dam era. I really don't feel like I belong here. But my crazy belief system and ideas could still be used today by anyone who dares to take a walk on the wild side. I live in a tipi, I have no running water. I have no electric but I do have some limited solar power. I buy my clothes at Goodwill and get pants and shirts for 3 bucks. I grow my own veggies and kill and butcher my own wild game. I have zero debt. I drive a beat up Jeep with 230,000 miles and love it. For what little money I need, I work doing oddjobs every now and then. When I make some cash I sit back and chill. I have time to talk with folks, take walks and just plain live. It gives me time to get ripped and sit around and think of anything that passes through my brain. I jumped off that crazy g-dam modern day merry-go-round a long time a ago and never looked back. People think I am absolutely nuts..and then there are a few who think what I am doing is cooler than shit. But mostly people call me "that crazy-guy living in the tipi." My way is not always the right way for other people, but it suits me just fine. As Chickenman says: "To each his own." :)

 

[sanvanalona]

The more I think on this the more I go back to my roots based on simplicity. Fuck money and what it stands for. Why not create a society where things that hold value can be exchanged for other things of value?...aka barter and trade. Much like the settlers and Indians did and I am sure many other civilizations long ago. For example, everyone has something of value and say I have fresh tomatoes. I need some firewood. Ken has firewood. We work out and agree to a fair trade and off we go. The only people who would not like this idea are the lazy fucks. Because they would get nothing if they have nothing and were too lazy to make something of themselves. Survival of the fittest at work. This would make people PRODUCTIVE. This would make people feel as though they themselves are worth something. People who can take care of themselves and families are very proud people. Just look and talk to the old timers who survived on their own and were still happy as shit. They had no debt, they lived simple and were not forced to be slaves working some shitty-ass job being paid peanuts.

I always look at the Amish and Mennonites and adore the interesting way they live. I like it, except for the "religion" stuff. But they raise their children to be craftsmen and show them how to work with their hands. They are masters of all trades which is well-needed for them to survive and be happy. They are leather-smiths and black smiths, carpenters and farmers and well-round horsemen, and they keep it simple.

As far as gold, silver and precious metals go? I do not like how they mine for it. It's toxic to the planet and us. The extraction process and use of cyanide is deadly. Uranium mining is even worse. And in todays greedy and corrupted world, only the very rich elites have all the rights to mine for precious metals and us simpletons do not. Not cool in my books. So the rich will get richer and the rest of us will fight over the leftovers, the tiny crumbs of gold and silver and attempt to make a decent living off of it. But yes, as the modern world is today, the precious metals hold great buying power. I decided to put what little money I had elsewhere. I wished I had invested in some, but oh well. My focus was moreso on buying acreage and creating my own self-sufficient lifestyle. I was tired of the slavery that I was born into.

I would rather see people create a skill or two, advance their God-given talents and then have something to be proud of. Then use whatever that skill may be to barter and trade and to sustain a happy lifestyle. But as I have said before, I was born in the wrong g-dam era. I really don't feel like I belong here. But my crazy belief system and ideas could still be used today by anyone who dares to take a walk on the wild side. I live in a tipi, I have no running water. I have no electric but I do have some limited solar power. I buy my clothes at Goodwill and get pants and shirts for 3 bucks. I grow my own veggies and kill and butcher my own wild game. I have zero debt. I drive a beat up Jeep with 230,000 miles and love it. For what little money I need, I work doing oddjobs every now and then. When I make some cash I sit back and chill. I have time to talk with folks, take walks and just plain live. It gives me time to get ripped and sit around and think of anything that passes through my brain. I jumped off that crazy g-dam modern day merry-go-round a long time a ago and never looked back. People think I am absolutely nuts..and then there are a few who think what I am doing is cooler than shit. But mostly people call me "that crazy-guy living in the tipi." My way is not always the right way for other people, but it suits me just fine. As Chickenman says: "To each his own." :)

holy shit man! I have such a newfound respect for you, congrats on your way of life. Very commendable! I also would like to live in a barter system, you would see that one percent gone quickly, as they only have so much to trade and no way to make more, without buying from others of course. I am curious though, how do you get online? Either way, i think what you are doing is so good, I live on 30 acres and though I am in a house I am often fending for myself and my family. Its funny, but one thing I admired about old school growers and what I ended up becoming myself is that "jack of all trades". If you did/do this grow thing outside of the law, you know as well as I do that you got to understand electric, plumbing, gardening, construction and a whole lot of other shit, I can only imagine how the need for these types of skills magnify when living on your own in a tipi. Do you grow in the full sun?

P.S. I bet your tipi smells better than your neighbors house!!!!!Ha

 

[putembk]

Kolah, I admire you for dropping off the grid and living off the land and the resources that it provides for you. I love your work ethic, thats exactly why you will prosper in any project you decide to undertake. I am the same. I have always had the attitude that "I will out work you". No matter what you do I will try and do better, work harder or out produce you.
Unfortunately not all are like us. I see most Americans today moving toward a society that wants the government to take care of them without doing their part. We, as a people have gotten lazy and just want the easy way out. You have to work your ass off in order to live the lifestyle you have chosen. You have learned to live off the land by being resourceful and waste nothing. Good for you.

I unfortunately cannot drop out of society I have gotten myself in a situation where $$$ in still the king and am pretty much a slave to it. I have a family to take care of, rentals that I can't sell in this depressed economy and a wife that needs pampering.

I envy your lifestyle but it's not for me. Either you are working for your money... or your money is working for you.

 

[kolah]

As not to hi-jack the thread I might start a separate thread on what I do and how I do it..and some pics..if it's cool with Logic and the mods.

btw, I am fortunate to have internet, a satellite dish mounted on a tree...haha. I have some nice mountain views and can catch the phone and internet towers.

The banking cartels lured everyone into debt, therefore it is almost impossible to get off the merry-go-round. It took me some serious planning but I did it in little bites...a much easier transition, IMO. Trust me, it gets easier as you go....but the first year and first winter was a steep learning curve.