Just Going Straight Up No Branches?

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 18, 2021

My standard thingy on watering when using soil:

When the plant gets watered, the water combines with the food and is pulled up into the plant, recharging the plant.
Once the plant is recharged, it begins to grow and stretch or flower. You can tell it is in an active growing mode by the position of the leaves.
When the leaves are pointing up towards the light, that means it is growing. It is using the water and food you gave it to build new roots, stems, flowers, whatever. When it begins to run out of water the leaves will begin to lower. When they get to more or less level, the plant is ready for water.
Now, you may water today and the are leaves up for 2 or 3 days without water. That is fine. Give water when the plant asks for it, not before.
Water the entire soil, not just a ring around the plant, and make sure it is good and wet. That's it. Wait for it to ask.

oLd1 · Jun 19, 2021

Well their growing.

I might be full of it but these look very bloomy if that makes sense. I think I will stay with the Autos for the most part.

oLd1

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

oLd1 said:
Well their growing.

I might be full of it but these look very bloomy if that makes sense. I think I will stay with the Autos for the most part.

oLd1

Are you after bushy or one main cola? I like scrog.

oLd1 · Jun 19, 2021

Habosabin said:
Are you after bushy or one main cola? I like scrog.

Ah too late now no matter what I think.

Son just left after making sure I’m not killing anything. He has some from Bag Seed . And I believe you get what you pay for.

Wonder if his drool will hurt my Ladies? LOL

oLd1

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

oLd1 said:
Ah too late now no matter what I think.

Son just left after making sure I’m not killing anything. He has some from Bag Seed . And I believe you get what you pay for.

Wonder if his drool will hurt my Ladies? LOL

oLd1

Using good genetics from the start will eliminate one worry for sure. If you like small plants with one main stem you could do SoG(sea of green). Or go with one plant or a few and use a screen ScroG.

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

If you lst that gg of yours it will bush out and give you way more bud sights exposed to the light.

oLd1 · Jun 19, 2021

Habosabin said:
If you lst that gg of yours it will bush out and give you way more bud sights exposed to the light.

One thing about Auto's you can be smoking some while messing with the next around next grow. Ah got Photo too but like the Auto's..

oLd1

PipeCarver · Jun 19, 2021

lvstealth said:
thats an auto gorilla glue? i have one that is 3 weeks old today!

mine is not tall, i tried to top, but might have fimmed... lol. i also took off 4 select fan leaves to give light to areas.

View attachment 1136892

I'm fairly new to auto's but I think the reason auto's don't usually get topped is because of their short veg period. topping shocks them and slows down their vertical growth. The same as the re-pot talk we had..... shock. with a 5-6 week veg period they have no time for shock recovery. Once they turn or you turn them ( you can flip auto's by going 12/12 ) the side shoots will take off and the branches will appear. I've not seen auto's topped...yours must be ready to flip soon....I'd like to see how she does.

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

oLd1 said:
One thing about Auto's you can be smoking some while messing with the next around next grow. Ah got Photo too but like the Auto's..

oLd1

Ya. I grew autos my first three grows. They yeild some serious grams per sf and good weed as well. But you need more to fill the tent so more seeds per grow in a small grow. Autos are great for outdoor as well. Indoor I think photos are better controlled for filling the tent. Plus you have the untainted genetics of photos. I like both but I'm really digging my first photo grow.

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

PipeCarver said:
I'm fairly new to auto's but I think the reason auto's don't usually get topped is because of their short veg period. topping shocks them and slows down their vertical growth. The same as the re-pot talk we had..... shock. with a 5-6 week veg period they have no time for shock recovery. Once they turn or you turn them ( you can flip auto's by going 12/12 ) the side shoots will take off and the branches will appear. I've not seen auto's topped...yours must be ready to flip soon....I'd like to see how she does.

Yes. Good point. If you make any mistake in auto it has to be corrected and back on track with 21 days or it will be stunted badly. Like not even worth the energy of the light. I've seen some grow dairies where they are still a few inches tall going into flower.

I think a qp from an auto that stays on track is completely within reason since I got almost 6oz my last auto under led with using 2sf of my tent space.

All my autos showed pistils at around 3 weeks so probably vegged 4 weeks total. And flowered next 10 weeks for fire weed. The autos I harvest before 10 weeks of flower have been subpar.

PipeCarver · Jun 19, 2021

oLd1 said:
One thing about Auto's you can be smoking some while messing with the next around next grow. Ah got Photo too but like the Auto's..

oLd1

There's a time and place for auto's but there's not enough volume per plant to make them viable for me. I smoke an auto a weeks or 1 photo a month and it only takes 1 extra month of vegging to get that. I'll flip most of my vegging girls at 2 1/2 - 3 months. Auto's are like toy plants...fun & cute but it's like ordering off the kids menu.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 19, 2021

Autos don't flip when you want them to. That's what makes them auto. They are pre-programmed and there is
almost nothing you can do about it. They can be topped, it takes a day at most to recover if everything else is fine.
I don't care for autos because I want control of the flip.

PipeCarver · Jun 19, 2021

ComfortablyNumb said:
Autos don't flip when you want them to. That's what makes them auto. They are pre-programmed and there is
almost nothing you can do about it. They can be topped, it takes a day at most to recover if everything else is fine.
I don't care for autos because I want control of the flip.

You can flip autos. bin there done that 12/12 they turn..Once they turn I go to 12/12 anyways.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 19, 2021

PipeCarver said:
You can flip autos. bin there done that 12/12 they turn..Once they turn I go to 12/12 anyways.

That's never been my experience. I've seen them happen to flip themselves at the same time the grower did, but I've never seen one forced into flower before it's ready.

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

PipeCarver said:
You can flip autos. bin there done that 12/12 they turn

They can have very good yeilds. My last one got 166g in 2sf. That would have been 419g if I would have filled my tent but I only grew one because I was mainly just growing something under my new LED to see how it compared to my outdoor grow of the same strain. I now grow full canopy with my photo grow and hopefully can get close to 419g in 5sf. I hope minumim of 224g

lvstealth · Jun 19, 2021

you can convince them its time to flip with 30-48 hours dark, and i could see them flipping after switching the light (mine did, but it was that time anyway). but i wouldnt do it again.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 19, 2021

That's having to do something extreme to the plant to get it to flip. If you have to do all that, forget it. That's too much stress on the plant.

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

ComfortablyNumb said:
That's having to do something extreme to the plant to get it to flip. If you have to do all that, forget it. That's too much stress on the plant.

They flip really early as is. To compensate you have to plant triple of what you normally would do with photos in the same time frame.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 19, 2021

Habosabin said:
They flip really early as is. To compensate you have to plant triple of what you normally would do with photos in the same time frame.

I just don't mess with then for now. I don't have the room.
If I had 40 acres, you better bet I'd have all sorts of experiments growing for research.

Habosabin · Jun 19, 2021

Here is the difference between auto and photo approximately the same age. Same tent. Same tent cam. The auto is 104 days old and harvest next day. The photo is around 100 days I think and is actually the seedling in above pic. You can veg a photo while an auto flowers so that part was helping with my effeciency use of watts.

Just Going Straight Up No Branches?

Just Going Straight Up No Branches?

ComfortablyNumb

oLd1

Habosabin

oLd1

Habosabin

Habosabin

oLd1

PipeCarver

Habosabin

Habosabin

PipeCarver

ComfortablyNumb

PipeCarver

ComfortablyNumb

Habosabin

lvstealth

ComfortablyNumb

Habosabin

ComfortablyNumb

Habosabin

Attachments

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency