Justiceman's grow: The quest for Resin

[justiceman]

getting big arent they ! how big of containers do you use for flowering indoor? how long do you veg what do you ushually pull per plant ? trying to plan next indoor run. wanna kinda copy you got great results last time .



i got some outdoor being grown for me that looks pretty promising my girl and mom both have plants they are doing for me =)

Right on man! For flowering indoors last time I used 6 liter square white plastic pots. I aim to however use 2gal smart pots next time around, and I plan to stick with them if all goes well.

For indoor I usually veg 3-4 weeks. A per plant amount usually varies between strain but here are the statistics from my last two runs.

Harvest Statistics

Hindu Skunk= 451.8g(15.94oz)
average 56.48g(2.02oz) per plant(8 plants)

Purple Kush= 41g(1.45oz) per plant(1 plant)

TOTAL: 492.8(17.4oz)(1.086lb)

600w light = .8213 GPW

I raised my GPW for sure this round. Look at the last rounds statistics.

Green Crack= 212.7g(7.6oz)
average 70.9g(2.53oz) per plant(3 plants)

Granddaddy Purple= 97.8g(3.49oz)
average 32.6g(1.16oz) per plant(3 plants)

TOTAL: 310.5G(11.089oz)

600w light = .5175 Grams per watt

As you can see for the last run I averaged 56.48g(or about 2 oz) per Hindu Skunk plant.

Ah I'm sure that some quality smoke grown from a loving female must be awesome mike!

Here is a day shot for you guys.
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[Shady]

Beautiful outdoor veg shots... I'm under the impression this quest takes place there as well? If so, I'm def looking forward to seeing some big trees... Keep up the great progress bud! :cool

 

[justiceman]

Beautiful outdoor veg shots... I'm under the impression this quest takes place there as well? If so, I'm def looking forward to seeing some big trees... Keep up the great progress bud! :cool

Thanks Shady! You are correct this quest is an outdoor quest. They have been coming up lately so I hope to not disappoint. I'm trying to think of ways to deter pests this year. This time I have my plants located in an area farther away from random plant growth in the garden.

Veg Tent Update
Hey everyone! It's been a while since the last update. I went on a road trip so I have been away for a little bit. Hope everyone and their plants are doing well. Fortunately I had some help in regards to watering while I was gone. I had instructed pure R/O water for a better safe then sorry approach because I wouldn't be able to be their to adjust to the varying needs of the cuts. Thanks to the help I received my plants are still alive. I am truly grateful.

So first up is the veg tent update. It has 6 (Chem Dawg, Casey Jones, and Head Band) cuts of each. So 18 total. Just to remind you I left them alone for 1 week without nutes and had hoped they wouldn't have too many deficiencies. Luckily they are only slightly deficient and I should be able to make them look prime. Here is what I have been feeding them as of late.

Feeding(7/12/10)
250ppm cal mag
16ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=590(about 1.2EC)

(when I was gone)
Feeding(7/16/10)
R/O water

Feeding(7/19/10)
250ppm cal mag
14ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=550(about 1.1EC)

Here are some pictures of the cuttings.
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So as you can see they need a bit of care but overall they are looking pretty decent. Nothing a little bit of base/micro nutes, humic acid, and beneficial microbes can't cure.

Outdoor Veg Update
So my girls outside are doing quite well now. Without a doubt they have taken to the Super Soil, and they love it. Next time I make it I'll probably increase the strength to see how far I can take it. The watering needs have increased probably because the roots and plant size have as well hehe. They usually needed water every 5 days. Now they need water every 3-4 days. Here is what has been going on lately.

Feeding(7/7/10)
molasses water

Feeding(7/12/10)
molasses water

Feeding(7/16/10)
R/O water

Feeding(7/19/10)
molasses water

As you can see not a whole lot. The only additive lately has been molasses to help fuel the micro heard, and an added bonus of cal/mag N and K.

A few of the bottom leaves seem to be exhibiting slight signs P deficiency. So I will probably have to start adding some type of P or PK additive during flower. Lucky for me I have some extra Roots Organics HP quano laying around if necessary. I also have some extra Roots Organics HPK for a PK boost laying around as well. We shall see. So next time I am going to strengthen the Super Soil mix no doubt. Here are some pictures for ya.

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The average stock size
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Head Band
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Chem Dawg
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Casey Jones
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So These girls have gotten a bit bigger since I have last seen them. I was very glad to see they are in good health. I can't wait for them to flower!

 

[mikegreenthumb]

Thanks Shady! You are correct this quest is an outdoor quest. They have been coming up lately so I hope to not disappoint. I'm trying to think of ways to deter pests this year. This time I have my plants located in an area farther away from random plant growth in the garden.

Veg Tent Update
Hey everyone! It's been a while since the last update. I went on a road trip so I have been away for a little bit. Hope everyone and their plants are doing well. Fortunately I had some help in regards to watering while I was gone. I had instructed pure R/O water for a better safe then sorry approach because I wouldn't be able to be their to adjust to the varying needs of the cuts. Thanks to the help I received my plants are still alive. I am truly grateful.

So first up is the veg tent update. It has 6 (Chem Dawg, Casey Jones, and Head Band) cuts of each. So 18 total. Just to remind you I left them alone for 1 week without nutes and had hoped they wouldn't have too many deficiencies. Luckily they are only slightly deficient and I should be able to make them look prime. Here is what I have been feeding them as of late.

Feeding(7/12/10)
250ppm cal mag
16ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=590(about 1.2EC)

(when I was gone)
Feeding(7/16/10)
R/O water

Feeding(7/19/10)
250ppm cal mag
14ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=550(about 1.1EC)

Here are some pictures of the cuttings.
http://i23.invalid.com/albums/b389/kingoflessthen3/IMG_1288.jpg

http://i23.invalid.com/albums/b389/kingoflessthen3/IMG_1289.jpg

So as you can see they need a bit of care but overall they are looking pretty decent. Nothing a little bit of base/micro nutes, humic acid, and beneficial microbes can't cure.
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wuts up with the xbox controller lol

 

[supasticky]

just one thing I have to say.

LOL!

Those cuttings are comin' up in life.

-Supa

 

[justiceman]

wuts up with the xbox controller lol

Haha sometimes a man has to get down on some xbox ya know!

just one thing I have to say.
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LOL!

Those cuttings are comin' up in life.

-Supa

Hell ya man! that pic is sick. Lovin it.:fighting0087::puke

 

[justiceman]

Hey everyone so I thought I would share a couple items I bought on my trip. One of them slightly more interesting then the other. First off is an Endo & Ecto Mycorrhizae product by down to earth. The reason I bought it is because it is one of the few mycorrhizae products that carries an OMRI listing. Here is a pic.
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Now the interesting product I picked up is this.
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Wow talk about a mineral supplement ay? I have recently been reading in Maximum Yield about how plants benefit with the addition of sea solids(basically sea salt witch contains more many more minerals besides sodium). It is supposed to provide a full spectrum of minerals in natures intended proportions. Many hydroponic nutrients contain just a few of the necessary elements for optimum plant performance. Plants will survive and grow with NPK alone, but they will not flourish and taste good unless given a wide variety of elements. That is why many organic cultivators use sea kelp as an additive because it contains many different minerals not found in hydroponic nutrients. This is especially important with edible crops, as we humans need to ingest these different minerals for optimum health. As for Cannabis in my opinion the Ocean Nutrient Solution should help to increase resin production, yield, and flavor.

 

[mikegreenthumb]

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Wow talk about a mineral supplement ay? I have recently been reading in Maximum Yield about how plants benefit with the addition of sea solids(basically sea salt witch contains more many more minerals besides sodium). It is supposed to provide a full spectrum of minerals in natures intended proportions. Many hydroponic nutrients contain just a few of the necessary elements for optimum plant performance. Plants will survive and grow with NPK alone, but they will not flourish and taste good unless given a wide variety of elements. That is why many organic cultivators use sea kelp as an additive because it contains many different minerals not found in hydroponic nutrients. This is especially important with edible crops, as we humans need to ingest these different minerals for optimum health. As for Cannabis in my opinion the Ocean Nutrient Solution should help to increase resin production, yield, and flavor.

its just sea water thou right ?

 

[Shady]

That's awesome... I wish I had someone to water my soil plants when I'm away... :itwasntme And I'm really diggin' all these outdoor grows lately. Keep on killin'it brah! :cool

 

[mikegreenthumb]

aye so why the controller so close to grow room justice ? neva got that one answered
veg plants outside gonna throw some nice yields bro

 

[supasticky]

Those plants are about to be monsters!

-Supa

 

[justiceman]

its just sea water thou right ?

Ya pretty much. It's concentrated though, and it's activated with aerobic bacteria so it doesn't contain any pathogens. One can probably achieve the same affect by using sea kelp. I just got it because I thought it was kind of cool. It should help to provide a balance of minerals. It's probably a type of additive that should be used once every 2-3 weeks. Sea Solids interest me though. Their is a product out their called SEA-90. It's basically contentrated salts that you mix back into water to essentially create "sea water". It is OMRI listed and is supposed to provide excellent flavor and overall health to plants. It's especially useful in edible crops because they will contain far more nutrition for us(wide variety of minerals) then traditionally conceived hydroponics or even depleted soil plants for that matter.

That's awesome... I wish I had someone to water my soil plants when I'm away... :itwasntme And I'm really diggin' all these outdoor grows lately. Keep on killin'it brah! :cool

Ya it was a life saver no doubt. Thanks man. I'm gonna start something up inside too pretty soon though.

aye so why the controller so close to grow room justice ? neva got that one answered
veg plants outside gonna throw some nice yields bro

I did answer you lol. I told you that sometimes a man likes to play games next to his plants! Nah just messin. I couldn't really tell ya. I may have kicked it over their by accident or something or came into the room with the controller and put it down. not sure hehe it was so long ago.

Thanks mang. Ya If all goes well those plants should hopefully produce a bountiful harvest. If the Super Soil does what it's supposed to the harvest should also be quite flavorful.

Those plants are about to be monsters!

-Supa

Thanks supa! They are definitely coming up. It's nice to be outside sometimes because you can let them get bigger then you can inside ya know.

 

[mikegreenthumb]

Ya pretty much. It's concentrated though, and it's activated with aerobic bacteria so it doesn't contain any pathogens. One can probably achieve the same affect by using sea kelp. I just got it because I thought it was kind of cool. It should help to provide a balance of minerals. It's probably a type of additive that should be used once every 2-3 weeks. Sea Solids interest me though. Their is a product out their called SEA-90. It's basically contentrated salts that you mix back into water to essentially create "sea water". It is OMRI listed and is supposed to provide excellent flavor and overall health to plants. It's especially useful in edible crops because they will contain far more nutrition for us(wide variety of minerals) then traditionally conceived hydroponics or even depleted soil plants for that matter.


Ya it was a life saver no doubt. Thanks man. I'm gonna start something up inside too pretty soon though.

I did answer you lol. I told you that sometimes a man likes to play games next to his plants! Nah just messin. I couldn't really tell ya. I may have kicked it over their by accident or something or came into the room with the controller and put it down. not sure hehe it was so long ago.

Thanks mang. Ya If all goes well those plants should hopefully produce a bountiful harvest. If the Super Soil does what it's supposed to the harvest should also be quite flavorful.


Thanks supa! They are definitely coming up. It's nice to be outside sometimes because you can let them get bigger then you can inside ya know.

thats right you did i remember my bad i got memory issues
aye you be on ps3 too?

 

[justiceman]

Mr Beer Update

thats right you did i remember my bad i got memory issues
aye you be on ps3 too?

All good man no worries. Unfortunately I don't have a ps3. too bad ps3 and xbox people can't play together with common games.

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So I have a bit of a random update for all of you guys. Not too sure If your down, but I won't be posting it up regularly. I just want to see what your reaction will be. I am beginning to delve into the art of beer brewing. I was recently gifted a Mr Beer Brew kit from a buddy of mine(his hopes being he could sample some of the finished product hehe). It is a really easy DIY brew that is almost in a sense done for you. So this will be my start into the world of brewing, and I hope it goes well because I sure do enjoy a fresh cold beer alongside a fresh bowl of cannabis. So here goes!

Here is a picture of the whole kit.
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When brewing bear it is of utmost importance to keep your tools sanitized, and to use high quality spring water(or tap if you must). No R/O water. The reason being that the yeast likes to be around calcium, magnesium, etc, and will not ferment correctly or fully without those available elements. If you tools and fermenter are not sanitized then you might be introducing unwanted bacteria/yeast into your brew creating flavors you don't want.

So I use this one step cleaner provided witch states(no rinse necessary) Kinda weird but I'll do what they say. All you need to do is fill the fermenter(keg, brown Mr beer container) with 4 quarts of water and 1tbs of cleaner. Mix it all around and let it sit for 10 minutes, Then pour the cleaner onto a plate and all the utensils you use for the brew(pot, stir stick, measuring cup, and measuring spoon)http://i23.invalid.com/albums/b389/kingoflessthen3/IMG_1350.jpg
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Now you place the can of Hop Malted Extract(HME) into warm water so that the liquid inside the can because soft so it can come out of the can easier when you pour.
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You then pour in 4 quarts of spring water into the fermenter
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Then you take the booster witch is corn syrup solids and mix it into 4 cups of water inside of a pot on the stove. It is important that you pour the booster slowly so that the solids don't chunk up and become hard to mix with the water. To make this easier you can warm up the pot a little bit.
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See it still needs much more stirring.
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After the booster and water are fully mixed bring the booster to a boil then take it away from the heat and add in your HME.
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give it a good mix and then add it to your fermenter. After doing that fill the fermenter up with spring water to the 8.5quart mark. After that mix vigorously and then add in your yeast.
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This is what the yeast looks like inside the brew.
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And here is my 2 gal of Pale Ale beginning the fermantation process. It will take about 2 weeks for the process to finish. Optimal temps for this brew are 68-75 degrees. If you guys like this I'll get back to you on the bottling process in 2 weeks. Thanks for looking!

 

[justiceman]

Veg Tent Update
Hey everybody so it's time for another update. The clones are starting to suck up water now more then ever as a result of an increase in temperature, and an increase in their root system no doubt. Soon it will be time to transplant the good ones and root out the undesirables. I'm basically looking for 9 good candidates to flower from the pack. Although that's up in the air because I am also considering the just getting 9 cuts of something totally different. If I decide to get 9 different cuts then I'll try to turn the best three CD, CJ, and HB into bonsai mum's. Maybe I'll try some experiments on the others. Here is what I have been feeding them as of late.

Feeding(7/22/10)
R/O water

Feeding(7/26/10)
molasses water
great white
PH 5.93
PPM= 120(almost .3EC)

Feeding(7/28/10)
250ppm cal mag
14ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=550(about 1.1EC)

Here are some pics for ya.
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Now I have an interestingly stressed cut of the CJ. I'm not sure at what point the CJ starting doing this. I think it was around the time when I was gone for a week. Funny how it happened to this one only. I think the leaf mutation is possibly a result of multiple undesirable conditions(temp, VPD and probably over nitrification). Another theory of mine is that this specific cut was too far away from the light and thought it was time to flower but then reverted back quite soon when she grew tall enough?Let me know what you guys think. She has been showing signs of recovery though. She actually created new "tops" from her side branches and is in a sense ditching her mutated original top witch is actually finally creating a new top but is still behind the dominant side branch. Here are some pics

Notice the odd top in the middle, and the side branch on the left surpassing it.
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Leaf mutation
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another one
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Outdoor Veg Update

So the outdoor girls are doing great. I think they will certainly start flowering quite soon now. They have been needing water about once every 3-4 days now. Sometimes a little top off in the second day because it got hot at some points. Unfortunately as a result the CD's and HB's suffered a little bit of apparent heat stress. Seems those strains can't handle too much heat where ass the CJ has no signs of heat stress and doesn't really seem to mind the weather at all.

Here are some pictures I took of them yesterday
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CJ
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CD
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HB
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Heat Stress
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HB mini stock.
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Here is what I have been feeding them as of late.
Feeding(7/22/10)
molasses water
Great White

Feeding(7/26/10)
R/O water

Feeding(7/30/10)
Compost tea brewed for about 20 hours
12 gallons:
3 cups EWC
3 cups Alaskan Humus
12TBSP Budswell guano mix
4TBSP Soluble Kelp
180ml Ancient Amber(Fulvic Acid)
12tsp Molasses

As you can see that last one was a compost tea! Love making those. In my opinion my girls look like they need a slight N boost probably along with some more P and K since I'm pretty sure flowering is about to happen. Plus I noticed a slight amount of interveinal chlorosis on some leaves near the middle of one of the HB's As a result of the slight need for more food, I decided to brew a compost tea. As you can see from the ingredients above it had everything necessary to provide a little boost of sors(NPK, trace minerals, humates, and beneficial's). So I started that tea yesterday and aerated it for about 20 hours. It smelled fresh and earthy and I think my plants will respond well to it. Here I have some pictures for ya.

Here's my bag of compost(EWC, Alaskan Humus, Guano, Soluble Kelp, molasses)
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Here are my 3 air pumps(12 gal brew)
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4 air stones and one bendable air tube total.
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Tea prep. I find it convenient to tie the tea bag to this wood stick so that it stays submerged in the water but doesn't fall to the bottom away from the air stones.
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I like to make sure their is enough space between the tones and the bag to allow a decent amount of air bubbles to come between the two.
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Filled with about 12 gal worth of water
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20 Hours later:fighting0084:
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[supasticky]

20 Hours later:fighting0084:
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That's what I'm talkin' about!

-Supa

 

[justiceman]

That's what I'm talkin' about!

-Supa

So I'm posting another update here. Well not really an update but just a little bit of extra info I stumbled upon. I'm not sure how many of you know but their is a term called VPD(Vapor Pressure Defecit/Difference). It has to do with the amount of moisture in the air as compared to the amount of moisture within the leaf(100%). You may think I'm talking about RH(Relative Humidity) but that is only partially correct. RH takes into account the temperature of the room. So for instance when you see your Hygrometer say it's 50% humidity and 75 degrees that means that the hair is holding 50% of what's possible at 75 degrees. To put it into perspective If your hygrometer says it's 50% humidity at 85 degrees that is significantly different to say the least. So RH measures the amount of humidity possible within the temperature it's reading. Once again 100% RH at 75 degrees is not the same as 100%RH at 85 degrees.

The warmer the air the more moisture it holds. That is why water condenses out of the air when temps drop at night. That is why dew happens. So 100% RH at 85 degrees is more water vapor then 100% at 75. Why is all this important? I'll tell ya. It's important to know what your VPD is. It helps to give you an idea of the amount of moisture loss your plant gives off and if it's enough or too much. RH and VPD act together in a sense.

When RH is high(100%) VPD is low because the saturation point at the given temperature is met. As a result of this the plant is unable to breathe and starts to suffer from toxic build up, or pathogens(mold, mildew) start coming up because they love high RH or it is unable to uptake certain minerals. Basically that means slow unsatisfactory growth.

When RH is low(20%) VPD is high because their is practically no moisture in the air. As a result the plant goes into survival mode and starts breathing faster then it can photosynthesize. This leads to rapid water loss and a lack of nutrient absorption. It can also cause heat stress and break down enzyme production. That again means slow unsatisfactory growth.

To attain excellent growth VPD values should be somewhere in between the extremes in order to balance respiration with photosynthesis. Not too much RH so the plant can't breathe but not too little so the plant breathes too much. So whats the correct RH to have at the correct Temp? I happened to come upon this graph that gives a pretty sweet general guide line of VPD values.

Table 1 shows the VPD in millibars at various air temperatures and relative humidity. Most cultivated plants grow well at VPDs between 8 and 10, so this is the green shaded area. Please not that the ideal VPD range varies for different types of plants and the stage of growth. The blue shaded are on the right indicated humidification is needed where the pink shaded are on the left indicated dehumidification is needed.
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Interesting stuff no? Obviously it isn't easy to keep VPD values within the general guidelines all the time, and I really like the warning they give you as these are just really guidelines but the info gives you an idea of what your plant might be dealing with at the moment. For instance I ran into heat stress in my last grow and the temps were usually around 78 with a RH of about 45% if I remember correctly. That would put me into the blue part of the category witch requires humidification. That easily explains why some of my leaves curled in from too much heat and they obviously wanted to minimize water loss.

I thought that my temps were fine and they were but the correct RH should be achieved to help cope with higher temperatures. Just gotta find that happy medium before you induce mold and mildew growth in the garden with humidity that is too high. Remember "What's important to take from this is that VPD can help you provide a better indication of how much moisture the air wants to pull from your plants than RH can."

 

[justiceman]

Here's a few lights out and an outside shot of the clones for you guys! They have greened up and seem to be doing very good at the moment. Just fed them today with this.

Feeding(7/31/10)
250ppm cal mag
14ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=550(about 1.1EC)

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outside shot
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[Shady]

Very impressive work Justiceman! I really like the tea tutorials, although I must admit I'm a bit too lazy to go through the process of brewing... :itwasntme Just wondering if you plan on staking the branches for your outdoor quest or possibly using a huge trellis for a massive scrog in the sun... :sun

 

[justiceman]

Very impressive work Justiceman! I really like the tea tutorials, although I must admit I'm a bit too lazy to go through the process of brewing... :itwasntme Just wondering if you plan on staking the branches for your outdoor quest or possibly using a huge trellis for a massive scrog in the sun... :sun

Thanks mang! Ya I can understand about not wanting to go through the tea process. It's some dirty work and I tend to not do them as much for indoor plants as I don't want to spill bat poop and such all over my floor on accident lol. To be honest I havn't really considered a trellis or anything like that. I was kind of hoping the plants would grow strong enough stalks and stems to support themselves when they bud, but that might not be a plausible idea. I'll have to be ready to install some type of support if necessary. An outdoor Scrog would be sick haha.

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Veg Tent Update

So my little clones are doing quite well. I'm happy to say the least that I got a 72.2% success rate overall. Actually 100% of them rooted but I decided that 6 of them were weak, or too stressed to continue compared to the rest. When I say 72.2% I mean 13 out of 19. So I could certainly use some improvement in that aspect but overall I'm pretty happy with the results. Here is what I have been feeding them. Still the same formula.

Feeding(8/3/10)
250ppm cal mag
14ml Pura Vida Grow
4ml Pura Videa Bloom
15ml Silica blast
45ml Ancient Amber
3ml Roots Excelurator
25ml Cannazym
Great White
PH 6.0
PPM=550(about 1.1EC)

So I'm setting up my tent again and I should hopefully have it up and running soon. The reason It's not already running now is because I got an upgrade so I had to put it together. Originally I had one inline fan to exhaust the room and cool the light. Now I added an extra inline fan so I have one fan for the exhaust and one fan for the light cooling. I've run a couple tests just examine temps with the light on for a whole day and it seems this type of set up is a little bit more temperature efficient then my last one.

So If all goes according to plan I will be putting 9 of the clones from my veg tent into my flower tent quite soon. The other 4 will be left in the veg tent to either mother out or preform experiments. I want to try bonsai mums with the cuts left in the veg tent. We'll see. Here is a recent picture of the clones
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Outdoor Flower Update
So finally after the long wait my ladies have finally decided to start flowering. I hope to attain a bountiful harvest from them as they are pretty sizable. Here is what they have been getting lately.

Feeding(8/1/10)
R/O water

Feeding(8/3/10)
R/O water

Feeding(8/5/10)
R/O water

Seems like not so much but trust me their are still a nice amount of nutrients left in the Super Soil although I will be brewing up a compost tea in the next couple days for them. Man after I applied the compost tea watering requirements went up haha. It use to be once every 3 days but now it is once every 2 days. Here are some pics for ya.

Casey Jones
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Head Band
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Chem Dawg
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The beginning of bud
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