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I'd love to hear from the farmers who use knf brews to see the hows and what's of what you're doing.
Maybe I'm over thinking some of the processes, but as a beer brewer my mind tends to think about fermentation from a fairly technical standpoint.
Molasses is a tried and true additive and growing and is what I use to feed my microbes.
the KNF i am familiar with is EM. My friend has a IBC tote with the top cut off it with the culture on the bottom, he bought over the counter em dropped it in put some water and feeds it watermelons or sweet potatoes, mangos, bananas. Theres cultures of different kinds growing much like a culture on a pitri dish. tons of dead flys and not aerated at all. About 75 gal at the bottom of the tote. Pull out a gal of two, and dilute. Me coming from the school of aerated oxygenated it seems nasty anaerobic grossness. Pauls Staments says to culture your own to cook rice and bury it in cheese cloth somewhere thats really alive for a few weeks and use that as a starter culture, also had a friend tell me to do that for a inoc for teas and even putting it in the soil...Also whos checked out the Grow Kashi video on youtube with the soil king? Using Bu s blend and EM to grow huge white fungal hyphe its nuts. The whole world of anaerobic and fermented seems really foreign in america, seems the school of thought is aerated oxygenated.
Raw AF!!! Also with compost tea, letting it sit for long periods of time, full half full and bottoms and just airate for twelve hours before use. But heres what i think, that the idea of cannabis being fungal loving plants is far from the truth, i believe that a balanced biome is optimal and a lot of KNF has to do with anaerobic activity, and fermentation. For me the opposite end of what i was taught, and what a lot of western minds believe like Elaine Ingriam and some of the leading soil scientists in 'merica. So there is a lot of unexpained there, thats what is really intriuging to me. With my newly acquired knowledge of enzymes and and the actual roles that they play theres a lot more i want to know about the microbial activity in anaerobic stuff like that. Yeasts, enzymes, bacteria, all these things play i unseen role in our everyday life, from the reaction of enzymes to convert starches to sugars to create vodka, bread, and beer, but with in us as well knowing that fungus in our lungs and bacteria in our tummys. life. Wheres all the soil science nerds at?!?!?Thats intense. Whatever works for him. What did it smell like?
Raw AF!!! Also with compost tea, letting it sit for long periods of time, full half full and bottoms and just airate for twelve hours before use. But heres what i think, that the idea of cannabis being fungal loving plants is far from the truth, i believe that a balanced biome is optimal and a lot of KNF has to do with anaerobic activity, and fermentation. For me the opposite end of what i was taught, and what a lot of western minds believe like Elaine Ingriam and some of the leading soil scientists in 'merica. So there is a lot of unexpained there, thats what is really intriuging to me. With my newly acquired knowledge of enzymes and and the actual roles that they play theres a lot more i want to know about the microbial activity in anaerobic stuff like that. Yeasts, enzymes, bacteria, all these things play i unseen role in our everyday life, from the reaction of enzymes to convert starches to sugars to create vodka, bread, and beer, but with in us as well knowing that fungus in our lungs and bacteria in our tummys. life. Wheres all the soil science nerds at?!?!?
I do 1 liter of LAB to 80 liter of water !! One time per cycle...Watering with LABS diluted 1:1000 (yes, 1:1000) will act similarly to a compost tea, converting latent food present in the soil into bioavailable form. Be careful, because less is more. You can kill your plants by going too strong.
The 1:1000 dilution rate is for watering with straight LABS serum. This inoculates the food in your soil with microbes (lactobacillus) that will feed on the food stores present, and convert them into plant available form more quickly. Be careful going too strong right after a top dress, especially one with a lot of N, as it can unlock too much all at once. I learned that the hard way. I add a cup, or so, of LABS to a 5 gallon bucket of fruit mash to speed the process along. You’ll want to only fill your bucket 2/3 full as fermentation will cause the fruit solids to rise to the surface, which can cause juices to overflow. You can use the finished fruit product at a much lower dilution rate. I can’t make enough of it to fulfill my needs, since I only have access to a few fruit trees, so I just give them what I’ve got and supplement with other nutrient sources. I’ve heard people say you can use a dilution rate as low as 1:30, but I can’t personally recommend that, as I’ve never tried it. If I could produce enough, I would start at 2T./gallon and work my way up by testing on a plant, and seeing how it responds, before going hard on everything else. This article: https://www.redbudsoilcompany.com/b...-juice-recipe-for-flowering-plants-knf-inputsSo tell me, with a 1;1000 dilution that in so little it cant be to much of a nutrient solution. I have used 5 gal in a 250 of lab cow manure ferment and that didnt burn them too much. So my theory with the crazy dilution rate is that there is too much lactic acid is most fermentations making it rather acidic, shorter fermentation period will still have billions of bacteria but not so much booze, and acids. Do you think my kombucha would work as a LAB inoc?
That’s good info to know... I try to go bi-weekly with the standard 1:1000 rate. From my understanding, the microbe populations boom then taper off as the food stores are eaten up, which is a big reason why I make repeated applications. I feel that closer applications toward the second half of flowering will help get the nutrients out of the soil, creating a cleaner end product. LABS is said to increase resin and terpene content, so why not, rightI do 1 liter of LAB to 80 liter of water !! One time per cycle...
I bet kombucha would help break things down, but I have no idea to what extent, or how it would fare in your soil in the long term. Lactobacillus is a facultative anaerobe, meaning that it is anaerobic by nature, but also does well in aerobic environments. It is also pretty salt tolerant, can withstand a wide variety of environmental conditions, and has proven to be effective in agricultural studies. I experiment with small tweaks here, and there, well... because a wheel is shaped like a wheel for a reason. Sometimes just a small tweak is all you need to make something betterSo tell me, with a 1;1000 dilution that in so little it cant be to much of a nutrient solution. I have used 5 gal in a 250 of lab cow manure ferment and that didnt burn them too much. So my theory with the crazy dilution rate is that there is too much lactic acid is most fermentations making it rather acidic, shorter fermentation period will still have billions of bacteria but not so much booze, and acids. Do you think my kombucha would work as a LAB inoc?
I bet kombucha would help break things down, but I have no idea to what extent, or how it would fare in your soil in the long term. Lactobacillus is a facultative anaerobe, meaning that it is anaerobic by nature, but also does well in aerobic environments. It is also pretty salt tolerant, can withstand a wide variety of environmental conditions, and has proven to be effective in agricultural studies. I experiment with small tweaks here, and there, well... because a wheel is shaped like a wheel for a reason. Sometimes just a small tweak is all you need to make something better
There is lactobacillus in the kombucha scobee, so if you inoculate with that, it should have the beneficial effect of LABS... though it will probably take longer for the population to grow equivalent to that of what would be present in LABS, slowing the breakdown process. Not a problem, if you’re not in a rush. Are you talking homemade kombucha, or store bought? Just like fertilizers, many kombucha brands are processed to kill off a good portion of the microbes, so that the bottles don’t explode in transit. Homemade will work much betterSo tell me, with a 1;1000 dilution that in so little it cant be to much of a nutrient solution. I have used 5 gal in a 250 of lab cow manure ferment and that didnt burn them too much. So my theory with the crazy dilution rate is that there is too much lactic acid is most fermentations making it rather acidic, shorter fermentation period will still have billions of bacteria but not so much booze, and acids. Do you think my kombucha would work as a LAB inoc?
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