Locke's run with Trustfall's Genetics

Lockebox · Nov 13, 2022

bigbagofbuds said:
Its not too late yet to transplant, not ideal but it will benefit them with more NPK. You should definitely give those babies another feed of rock dust/gypsum, epsom, and NPK. The calcium deficiency is just about to rear its ugly head again I think in the next week or two.

I would give these girls a heavy feeding now, maybe 4-6 tbsp of NPK, and then let them ride it out until harvest. In my experience the advice of less is more doesnt apply as much to organic dry ammendments that are relatively low NPK. My grows really struggled until I started getting heavy handed with the NPK and adding the gypsum and epsom biweekly.

That's pretty neat to hear about the transplant being not ideal but something that's alright to do. Until now I've been under the impression that transplanting during or too close to flowering is something you definitely want to avoid.

I fed #1&4 2tbsp of Bloom on 11/1 and 2tsp of rock dust on 11/4

And Fed #5 3tbsp of Bloom and 2 tbsp rock dust on 11/4

I've been giving epsom salt once weekly mixed in the water as well. I need to get off my lazy butt and get some gypsum but with my work schedule and house location I haven't gotten around to it. I will do a heavy feed like you recommend and try to get through it

Lockebox · Nov 13, 2022

bigbagofbuds said:
Its not too late yet to transplant, not ideal but it will benefit them with more NPK. You should definitely give those babies another feed of rock dust/gypsum, epsom, and NPK. The calcium deficiency is just about to rear its ugly head again I think in the next week or two.

I would give these girls a heavy feeding now, maybe 4-6 tbsp of NPK, and then let them ride it out until harvest. In my experience the advice of less is more doesnt apply as much to organic dry ammendments that are relatively low NPK. My grows really struggled until I started getting heavy handed with the NPK and adding the gypsum and epsom biweekly.

I definitely tend to operate under the less is more philosophy lol. Another learning curve

Lockebox · Nov 14, 2022

Finally got me a Loupe for checking trichs and some study material along with it

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

Hahaha oh man, I really don't want to even post this but oh well. You fuck a grow up the least you can do is take responsibility

Gave all 3 a heavy feeding the other day, going to cry it out until harvest I reckon lol.

You can guarantee I'll never try organics in one gallon pots again. Maybe this was the lesson I needed haha.

Dont worry @Trustfall I'll make you proud when I grow theese okie x real sour next

Oldchucky · Nov 16, 2022

Any idea what’s wrong?

SchwiftyGrower · Nov 16, 2022

Man my heart hurts for you bro, but most of us I’m sure has had a grow similar to this. Same question as Chucky, any ideas what to avoid for next grow? Was it simply the 1 gallons? pH issues? Or not enough nutrients? I know they had a slight struggle before going into flower which doesn’t help to fix issues into flowering because they’re driving the bud production not focusing on fixing their issues as much. I know you’re going to kill it next grow, push through this one and learn as much as you can. Keep that head held up high and keep kicking ass

Variety719 · Nov 16, 2022

Lockebox said:
Hahaha oh man, I really don't want to even post this but oh well. You fuck a grow up the least you can do is take responsibility

Gave all 3 a heavy feeding the other day, going to cry it out until harvest I reckon lol.

You can guarantee I'll never try organics in one gallon pots again. Maybe this was the lesson I needed haha.

Dont worry @Trustfall I'll make you proud when I grow theese okie x real sour next View attachment 1303261 View attachment 1303264 View attachment 1303265 View attachment 1303263 View attachment 1303262 View attachment 1303260

For me salt base or mixed base has always been much more forgiving. Live and learn there is always next time

Oldchucky · Nov 16, 2022

Coca-Cola poisoning? L O L!

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

Oldchucky said:
Coca-Cola poisoning? L O L!

Hahahah no not this time I think. @SchwiftyGrower I'm pretty sure this is all due to the one gallon pot and lack of nutrition/ plant size and demand in relation to the pot size. Im doing everything pretty much exactly the same in my other tent except they are in 5 gallon pots and they look awesome so far. Theyre only on their first week of flower granted but I can already tell the health difference between the grows.

@Trustfall yeah my last grow with salt based nutrients knocked it out of the park so seeing this is like a blow to the stomach

Oh well, deficient or not. Smoke is smoke

Oldchucky · Nov 16, 2022

I’ve transplanted a lot bigger than that without issues. Good luck!

Shaded_One · Nov 16, 2022

Sorry I didn't catch this earlier @Lockebox ! The problems you are seeing now are just the plants natural change in diet during flower :) The best way to prepare for this is a nice hefty feeding 1 week before you kick the gals into flower of a 50/50 blend of the 284/444. That should give them enough time to break down for when the demand increases around week 3 of flower

And then around week 4 or week 5 you would give them their last feeding of 100% 2-8-4 for the last couple of weeks

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

Shaded_One said:
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Sorry I didn't catch this earlier @Lockebox ! The problems you are seeing now are just the plants natural change in diet during flower :) The best way to prepare for this is a nice hefty feeding 1 week before you kick the gals into flower of a 50/50 blend of the 284/444. That should give them enough time to break down for when the demand increases around week 3 of flower

And then around week 4 or week 5 you would give them their last feeding of 100% 2-8-4 for the last couple of weeks

@Shaded_One hey thanks what's up dude man it's funny you mention giving a 50/50 feed about a week before you flip to flower because in my other tent I just did a transplant with a 70/30 amendment ratio a week before I flipped to flower. Hope I didnt go to heavy on the 4-4-4 lol. I didn't really plan to flip so soon but my grows are often sporadic

ImpulsiveGrower · Nov 16, 2022

Hey man don’t feel too bad I just hacked my wifi 43 and 2 RS11 in my 5x5 do to some root issues from filling the SIP to much and not letting it dry out enough. Ya I would say you’re right tho the small pots made it hard to keep up. All good fam just keep growing and pop some more!

Shaded_One · Nov 16, 2022

Lockebox said:
@Shaded_One hey thanks what's up dude man it's funny you mention giving a 50/50 feed about a week before you flip to flower because in my other tent I just did a transplant with a 70/30 amendment ratio a week before I flipped to flower. Hope I didnt go to heavy on the 4-4-4 lol. I didn't really plan to flip so soon but my grows are often sporadic

Haha you're learning as you go which is a good sign! You'll be much happier with the other tent lady. And you're right about the larger pots being more forgiving. More medium/more nutrients/more of a buffer for the plant my first time using a 10 gallon pot and she is my healthiest plant so far!

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

Shaded_One said:
Haha you're learning as you go which is a good sign! You'll be much happier with the other tent lady. And you're right about the larger pots being more forgiving. More medium/more nutrients/more of a buffer for the plant my first time using a 10 gallon pot and she is my healthiest plant so far!

Always learning and training on the job
I bet that 10 gallon is doing awesome for you. I almost feel like I went to small again with 5, but hey like you said learning as I go lol. Certainly 5 beats 1, by a longshot

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

ImpulsiveGrower said:
Hey man don’t feel too bad I just hacked my wifi 43 and 2 RS11 in my 5x5 do to some root issues from filling the SIP to much and not letting it dry out enough. Ya I would say you’re right tho the small pots made it hard to keep up. All good fam just keep growing and pop some more!

Haha I feel weird hitting it with the love react because you mentioned losing some plants which I'm sorry to hear but hell yeah man I appreciate it! Never giving up, always popping more

bigbagofbuds · Nov 16, 2022

The 1 gallon pots are much trickier in organics, you have to time things well at that size. Just remember for next time when running organics feed heavy, especially with big plants in small pots.

I'm sure they will still make it to harvest, just review your notes for the next round and I'm sure you will get it! It took me many grows before I really caught on that what I thought was lockout was actually just lack of feed. Just have to keep trying and adjust a bit between attempts and I'm sure you will get it!

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

Mad deficient or not, I may still walk away with some fire. These are some of the most dense nugs I've grown yet.

Lockebox · Nov 16, 2022

bigbagofbuds said:
The 1 gallon pots are much trickier in organics, you have to time things well at that size. Just remember for next time when running organics feed heavy, especially with big plants in small pots.

I'm sure they will still make it to harvest, just review your notes for the next round and I'm sure you will get it! It took me many grows before I really caught on that what I thought was lockout was actually just lack of feed. Just have to keep trying and adjust a bit between attempts and I'm sure you will get it!

I definitely learned my lesson this round on feeding. In the future I will be much more heavy handed.

I also plan to leave the big plants in small pots thing behind. Not my cup of tea haha

Thanks for all the help! I'll get these organics down just wait

Variety719 · Nov 16, 2022

Lockebox said:
Mad deficient or not, I may still walk away with some fire. These are some of the most dense nugs I've grown yet. View attachment 1303456 View attachment 1303455 View attachment 1303459 View attachment 1303458 View attachment 1303457

The tall one has a lot of pure Michigan, hopefully the Cman terps are coming through. I have a runtz x Cman right behind same thing but I got lemon bubblegum runtz terps

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