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sounds like a recipe for some tasty nugs! Is alaska TF the same as Matanuska TF? i had a Matanuska TF awhile back ...the berry flavor was sweeet.
you dont have to add Great white that often to coco, you can also inoculate the coco with the great white before planting . Water it into the mix and let it set for a couple days. Gnatrol(BT) also , to keep them gnats at bay.
Like once a week.
you can prob pass on the Rhizo, Great White with age old or bigbloom and hygrozyme, sounds like good roots abundant.
age old bloom and FF big bloom , are those not basiclly the same thing? i forget the npk of those two...I know they are both organic teas. :thinking
follow Canna's instructions on mixing A+B, A first and let it sit for a few minutes, then add B to the mix.
With the organics, let your mix brew for a day before using it..get it nice and bubbly, lots of air . That will get things boomin with bacterial activity.
you may want to throw in a day for plain water, your plants will tell you if they like the mix .
in all, sounds like some tasty nugs a'comin...
Gnatrol and Great white are bacteria/fungi inoculants,reactivated with water.
Both can be applied once a week. Since coco stays moist, the gnats will like to nest in the mix and the larve wreck havoc on roots. Sometimes I think coco has some bug eggs already in it. So letting it "brew" with gnatrol(BT) a natural bacterial pesticide should zap the bugs in the coco and keep them from taking foot in your garden.
when i started using coco, I was pulling my hair out over gnats..They really can be a pain in the rear if they take foot in the garden.
cedar works , but it sticks to your buds too, cedar flavored ATF :smoke
CaliforniaGrown said:How much Calmag should be added to coco? Is it different for every week?
The idea is to run a coco/perlite (75/25) mix, hand watered, allowing 10-20% run off each feed, with r/o water ph'd @ 5.8, and staying in the 600-1000 ppm range, but never going over 1000 ppm on nute days. I really want to feed like this, but I'm not sure if this is correct. Please help!
Sun- Feed w nutes
Mon- Feed w nutes
Tue- Feed w Kelp, Big Bloom, Great White, Molasses
Wed- Feed w nutes
Thu- Feed w nutes
Fri- Feed w Kelp, Big Bloom, Great White, Molasses
*Sat- Feed w plain water & Molasses
*On the 4th week that Sat would be just pure water.
On the 8th week or final week, Sun - Tue would be feed w water & molasses and Wed - Thu would just be plain ph'd water. The last Fri and Sat will get no water, no lights. Then harvest time!
The nutes I have are Canna Coco A&B, PK 13/14, Rhizo, Boost, MagiCal, Age Old Kelp, Bud Candy, Great White, Molasses, FF Big Bloom, Hygrozyme, and compost tea. I'll be basically following Canna's regular nute feeding schedule, but also adding 5ml MagiCal and 4 ml hygrozyme every nute feeding. Kelp days get Age Old Kelp, FF Big Bloom, Great White, Molasses and that's it. Bud Candy is going in only on the nute days BUT only week 1-6. Molasses will replace Bud Candy after and go until week 8.
Am I over doing it?
Should I feed/water every other day instead?
Maybe a coco/perlite (50/50) mix might be more appropriate with this?
Should I eliminate any nutes? Add any nutes?
Is there any specific order in which I should mix these nutes together?
Do you guys have any other ideas?
If this is all wrong, PLEASE leave your suggestion. I have no experience with coco, only soil, but I've done a ton of research and came up with this myself.
Thanks in advance fellow farmers!
Peace and love,
OK
P.S. - I'm growing in 4.2 gal Superroots Airpots and the strain I'll be running is Alaska Thunder Fuck. 4 plants in a sealed room with a 1000 watt air cooled light. 20 - 30 day veg then 12/12.
cheaper option is misquito bits or dunks.
Thanks for the tip, Leadsled! They contain the exact same ingredient as gnatrol at a much cheaper price. Sweet! How would you apply them though... break off a tiny piece, dilute in water, and then water them into the coco?
Peace and love,
OK
Do not apply great white until there are roots for the fungi to attach to. no use in using it to pre-treat your coco. inho that is a waste of the product.
Great white can be used at half strength and works great.
gnatrol is not cheap. no use in using it if you do not have gnats.
cheaper option is misquito bits or dunks.
coco should not have gnats in it. If it does you should go with another brand.
5ml per gallon is added to the water. Is more required if your are using reverse osmosis water. May not need as much if you have good tap water.
Stays the same mostly. Some strains (kushes) like a little more calmg. so may need a little more week 6. Gotta look at the plant and see what it is doing.
treat coco like hydro-that means use nutes every water or a nutrient problem will occur.How many and how much can be a problem as well.Stick with a good fert that has most macro and micros in it and you wont need a million additives.I used gh flora nova bloom, molasses and sea kelp( i believe it was neptune).SEemed to always balance out at 6.0-6.3 with that combo and r.o water.
You seem the right idea allowing for run off.Without it you will have lock out problems.SO ph 5.8-6.3,10-15 percent run off .Keep an eye out for cal mag as well.I did use a touch of botanicare cal mag in veg week2 and flower week 3,5.
never had a problem with overwatering cause it drains so well.
gotcha...
Coco is rinsed many times before it is baled and packaged for sale. It sits out in the sun to dry, leaving it exposed to many micro-insects that lay eggs in the moist coco. The insect eggs lay dormant until we, the grower starts to water it back the life. EarthJuice coco,Hydrofarms can come loaded with root mealies, and some other unidentified nemotodes( not all are good) Empire , that stuff grew field grasses in my pots! and major gnats!. Not all my experiences with these coco products were the same..Some were clean, free of excess salts..and sometimes the coir required 3+rinses before it was under 200ppm
Bacterial inoculants are never really Fast acting, having an established Bacillius t.i. colony just acts as a barrier as the bacteria will have established endotoxins already in the planting mix.. Its like spraying a systemic miticide on plants that dont have mites on them. Its more of a precaution, and since BT wont just "knock out" gnats by touching them, the actual toxins produced by BT will be there if the larve do show up.
Gnatrol is what i use, there are cheaper products, but Gnatrol actually has a dose...Where as those dunks are like grabbing a handful sugar out of a jar when the recipe says 1cup. I also treat my coco like hydroton...many flood cycles a day, so my coco stays wet.
leadsled, I know you know whats up, we just have different methods of using bacterial/fungi inoculants.. Great tips for OKcomputer's brain to soak in. He should be rocking it soon.
If it was me,and it used to be,I would use JHs nute :damnhippie:schedule.just my 2 cents.peace, Fuzzy
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