Mahavishnu’s Growchestra (Critical Plus, Widow, SSH, CBD)

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_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

Cobham is someone whose work I still need to dive into. I got into the Billy Cobham & George Duke Band’s one album, but I really only like two or three songs on it. I love Return To Forever though and have their Light As A Feather album, plus Chick Corea Elektric Band’s self-titled. “King Cockroach” off that record is such an insane song.

Ok how bout , them " crusaders " keep that same old feeling ....
Joe sample , Larry Carlton ,Wayne Henderson , Wilton felder ,
I don’t know a single one of these names. More homework.
 
dire wolf

dire wolf

Cobham is someone whose work I still need to dive into. I got into the Billy Cobham & George Duke Band’s one album, but I really only like two or three songs on it. I love Return To Forever though and have their Light As A Feather album, plus Chick Corea Elektric Band’s self-titled. “King Cockroach” off that record is such an insane song.



I don’t know a single one of these names. More homework.
Yo dude ... Start off with a Larry Carlton on YouTube ........
 
_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

Still coming along. Seeing the beginnings of what looks like a mag deficiency on the critical plus, and there are some fungus gnats showing up as well. Did a soil drench with mammoth canna-control tonight but I won’t spray it on the plants. Too strong and likely to linger in the buds. I ordered yellow sticky traps and spinosad in the meanwhile.

Still frostier by the day though!
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_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

SSH
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Cream & Cheese CBD
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Critical Plus 2.0
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Haven’t taken many detail shots of the widow because it’s honestly not that impressive. It’s super vigorous and has probably 20 tops, but not much of a stem rub and not much frost. It may just be a slow finisher, or she may just be a softie. Time will tell.

Meanwhile, I gave the girls kelp and neem meal last night before their water, and I’ve started a bucket of AACT to give them in another day or so. Compost I made myself over the summer that’s been sitting for a good long while. I like to think that’ll put a little more of the “terroir” of my home into the buds, aside from hopefully giving nutrient availability a boost. Calmag and pest stuff coming soon.

Lastly, today’s listening:
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Milson

Milson

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SSH
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Cream & Cheese CBD
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Critical Plus 2.0
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Haven’t taken many detail shots of the widow because it’s honestly not that impressive. It’s super vigorous and has probably 20 tops, but not much of a stem rub and not much frost. It may just be a slow finisher, or she may just be a softie. Time will tell.

Meanwhile, I gave the girls kelp and neem meal last night before their water, and I’ve started a bucket of AACT to give them in another day or so. Compost I made myself over the summer that’s been sitting for a good long while. I like to think that’ll put a little more of the “terroir” of my home into the buds, aside from hopefully giving nutrient availability a boost. Calmag and pest stuff coming soon.

Lastly, today’s listening:
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Looking great!

How far into flower now?
 
_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

Ah yeah in that case they look fantastic!
I don’t have a frame of reference for an indoor grow, but these girls sure are sprinting compared to my original outdoor lady!

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Here’s what her tops looked like August 22. I first saw budsites on her August 4, so honestly she may have been even further into her flowering period in this photo than the indoor girls are right now.

Pathetic! The difference between 3-4 hours of direct sun and 6 more of shade per day vs 12hrs of concentrated direct light daily is unmistakeable.
 
_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

Critical Plus
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White Widow
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Cream and Cheese CBD
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SSH
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And the ensemble
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If anyone can confirm that diagnosis of magnesium def with me I wouldn’t mind. Middle leaves on the widow and critical yellowing with green veins remaining.
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It seems the beginnings of the same, or possible N def, are just barely noticeable in a lightening of large fans on the SSH
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They were given compost tea two days ago, a light dose of calmag the day before that, and full strength calmag today as the leaves continue to yellow. This time I did calmag only and pH’d the feed to ~6 per dropper test. If it looks like N deficiency on the SSH in a few days, then I’ll add some of the Neptune’s Harvest bloom feed I have (2-6-4) to hopefully hold her over.

As always, open to recommendations! These are the first stumbling blocks of the whole grow so far, and identifying and treating issues is where I’m lacking experience the most right now.

Overall though, I am damn impressed with these plants, particularly the critical plus and CBD plant. Brings joy to my heart that those two, the ones my friend and I really are interested in, are doing the best.
 
Milson

Milson

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Critical Plus
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White Widow
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Cream and Cheese CBD
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SSH
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And the ensemble
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If anyone can confirm that diagnosis of magnesium def with me I wouldn’t mind. Middle leaves on the widow and critical yellowing with green veins remaining.
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It seems the beginnings of the same, or possible N def, are just barely noticeable in a lightening of large fans on the SSH
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They were given compost tea two days ago, a light dose of calmag the day before that, and full strength calmag today as the leaves continue to yellow. This time I did calmag only and pH’d the feed to ~6 per dropper test. If it looks like N deficiency on the SSH in a few days, then I’ll add some of the Neptune’s Harvest bloom feed I have (2-6-4) to hopefully hold her over.

As always, open to recommendations! These are the first stumbling blocks of the whole grow so far, and identifying and treating issues is where I’m lacking experience the most right now.

Overall though, I am damn impressed with these plants, particularly the critical plus and CBD plant. Brings joy to my heart that those two, the ones my friend and I really are interested in, are doing the best.
Looking great. That SSH in particular has my eye....

Re: the leaves....
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White Widow
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Cream and Cheese CBD
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SSH
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And the ensemble
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If anyone can confirm that diagnosis of magnesium def with me I wouldn’t mind. Middle leaves on the widow and critical yellowing with green veins remaining.
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It seems the beginnings of the same, or possible N def, are just barely noticeable in a lightening of large fans on the SSH
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They were given compost tea two days ago, a light dose of calmag the day before that, and full strength calmag today as the leaves continue to yellow. This time I did calmag only and pH’d the feed to ~6 per dropper test. If it looks like N deficiency on the SSH in a few days, then I’ll add some of the Neptune’s Harvest bloom feed I have (2-6-4) to hopefully hold her over.

As always, open to recommendations! These are the first stumbling blocks of the whole grow so far, and identifying and treating issues is where I’m lacking experience the most right now.

Overall though, I am damn impressed with these plants, particularly the critical plus and CBD plant. Brings joy to my heart that those two, the ones my friend and I really are interested in, are doing the best.
From Cervantes.
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_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

N deficiency was my first thought, since they last got top dressed with alfalfa probably two months ago, but at the same time that stuff should only recently be available to the plants. Both the Critical and Widow have green leaves lower down, and the yellowing is in the middle. New growth is still just about perfect in color. That is what lead me to Mg.

Either way, they got 2ml of calmag in their gallon today, so we will know soon enough if I got it right. They also got some of that 2-6-4 mixed in with the compost tea the other day, so hopefully they have N if they want it. I can’t imagine that they tore through what that the 1-2” of build-a-flower mix provided so quickly.

Here’s what’s up with that stuff, by the way:
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Milson

Milson

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N deficiency was my first thought, since they last got top dressed with alfalfa probably two months ago, but at the same time that stuff should only recently be available to the plants. Both the Critical and Widow have green leaves lower down, and the yellowing is in the middle. New growth is still just about perfect in color. That is what lead me to Mg.

Either way, they got 2ml of calmag in their gallon today, so we will know soon enough if I got it right. They also got some of that 2-6-4 mixed in with the compost tea the other day, so hopefully they have N if they want it. I can’t imagine that they tore through what that the 1-2” of build-a-flower mix provided so quickly.

Here’s what’s up with that stuff, by the way:
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Started in the middle....in flower....

Just providing what I hope are useful resources.

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@Aquaman is way better at identifying these things than me.
 
_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

Started in the middle....in flower....

Just providing what I hope are useful resources.
@Aquaman is way better at identifying these things than me.
Oh Lordy you got me second-guessing myself. I think that’s @Aqua Man ’s imposter, though! Calling all plant doctors for third, fourth, etc opinions!

I guess a little N can’t hurt anyways, when they’re not burnt as it is
 
Aqua Man

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Plants are older and i feel like its just cutting off the older leaves that are not photosynthesizing or as efficient as they used to be. Suckong out some mobile nutes to use elsewhere before the literally fall off to the touch.

Correct me if I'm wrong but looks like the oldest largest leaves. Usually see this after a couple months especially on indoor plants.

The rest of the plant looks great so thats why I think this.
 
_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

My balls are old... looking again yeah she asking for a small bump in nitrogen. Make sure your not overwatering. That can also cause this.
Roger that, they’ll get some tomo then most likely. We have been struggling to find the sweet spot with watering them as they up their intake. A gallon split between the 4 of them every other day and they were drooping, but a half gallon each day also seems to be a bit much now that they don’t get as long to dry out. Maybe 2/3-3/4gal every other day is the ticket.

I originally hoped that the fabric pots would prevent overwatering, but the soil has compacted quite a bit in the last few months so I can see oxygen at the roots being an issue
 
Aqua Man

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Roger that, they’ll get some tomo then most likely. We have been struggling to find the sweet spot with watering them as they up their intake. A gallon split between the 4 of them every other day and they were drooping, but a half gallon each day also seems to be a bit much now that they don’t get as long to dry out. Maybe 2/3-3/4gal every other day is the ticket.

I originally hoped that the fabric pots would prevent overwatering, but the soil has compacted quite a bit in the last few months so I can see oxygen at the roots being an issue
What type of nutrients are you using?
 
_mahavishnu

_mahavishnu

What type of nutrients are you using?
This whole grow has been an attempt to start a ROLS setup, so 90% organic dry amendments. Original soil is a mix of happy frog and ocean forest, with lava rock and rice hulls mixed in. One dressing of alfalfa and kelp meal in veg, the addition of 1-2” of the build-a-flower mix at flip, a dressing of kelp and neem meal last week.

In their water they got aloe flakes and GH Armor-Si(silica) alternating during veg, and since flip have gotten mostly Fox Farms Big Bloom every other watering or so. This week they’ve been given a compost tea with Neptune’s Harvest 2-6-4 (fish protein hydrolysate, molasses, seaweed, sulfate of potash) and two initial doses of TPS Cal-Mag. I know some of this isn’t organic but I’m ok with that as long as the soil and rhizosphere are healthy.

Lastly I have some regular ol Fox Farms Grow Big 6-4-4 if I need to really pull the stops and get them fed ASAP. I’ve been banking on dry amendments and soil microbes giving the plant what it needs up until now.
 
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