main-line topping best method

JH420 · Nov 28, 2014

Great thread much respek @clockworx

Question. If going with 9 plants in 3 gal buckets in a 4 x 4 tent under a 1k, should I go for 8 tops or just 4? Thanks.

SeaF0ur · Nov 28, 2014

Mainlining is something I played with once upon a time... I still happen to have some shots of one...

Camdawg · Nov 28, 2014

Popsicle sticks fuckin genius. @SeaF0ur what was the veg time on those?

SeaF0ur · Nov 28, 2014

I dont generally time or measure things... at this point its mostly by eye and feel...

clockworx · Dec 2, 2014

JH420 said:
Great thread much respek @clockworx

Question. If going with 9 plants in 3 gal buckets in a 4 x 4 tent under a 1k, should I go for 8 tops or just 4? Thanks.

Fill the canopy as much as possible, you would rather have a bunch of tops collecting light than trying to do less and sneak light into the inside of the plants.... Your always gonna get better results with more canopy, no matter what wattage... === more tops

ByrneBurnham · Jan 7, 2015

ClockWorx - your advice has been spot on before so me trusting your response on this is no different.....hehehehe....

Have you ML'd a plant at its 2nd or even 1st node before ?
And another question if I may ?
What would you say in your opinion is the max' # of tops an outdoor plant vegging from now until mid-July should strive for ? Thanks to all in advance for your awesome help in answering ! ! !

ShroomKing · Jan 7, 2015

Here's a mainline monstrosity at finish.......

ByrneBurnham · Jan 7, 2015

ShroomKing - thats very nice indeed. Wow ! ! ! !

That pot should have necklace around its rim stating (in a very Patrick Swayze way I might add) "nobody puts baby in the corner".

And can I ask you SK the tallest mainlined plant youve grown out or have seen ? And yes - I do realize the benefit is the directness of the path the plant's internals follow (and a side benefit of that being multiple tops)....

ShroomKing · Jan 7, 2015

ByrneBurnham said:
ShroomKing - thats very nice indeed. Wow ! ! ! !

That pot should have necklace around its rim stating (in a very Patrick Swayze way I might add) "nobody puts baby in the corner".

And can I ask you SK the tallest mainlined plant youve grown out or have seen ? And yes - I do realize the benefit is the directness of the path the plant's internals follow (and a side benefit of that being multiple tops)....

I've seen outdoor plants with 30-40 tops that were about 12 foot tall and 8ft wide in 300gl smartpot. I don't ghink you can have too many, strain depending of course. Best of luck and thank you. Lol. Here's a closeup....I'm trimming her now.

ByrneBurnham · Jan 25, 2015

My good people.... I introduce Elizabeth Taylor in a dazzling green fur coat..(hopefully a lady)..

No reason at all to trip on her size, she'll be in veg from now til June 21st.....

I have it on good authority that this dude Byrne has these beer goggles that make you think you see 8 of these ladies...

Word....

ByrneBurnham · Jan 28, 2015

My good folks ! ! ! ! (Picture me tippin'the brim of a white Oceanliner's Captain hat while the other hand has the majority of its space occupied by a stiff drink in a roller glass with ice cubes the size of dinosaur eggs)....

Seriously though.....an observation. ...I made my first cut (of the main stem) on January 14th. ...those same plants now have 4 well defined (and soon to be cut) stems. I know its all strain dependent and I certainly chose well using my avail' strains - but have others also noticed that with each successive "cut" the plant rebounds quicker and more vigorous than the last cut.....

Ive observed the first cut taking the most time to rebound and the last cut (2 to make 4) the rebound was non-existent - it went straight into growing out the shoots.....

It just seems as though the front loaded work ClockWorx spoke about is very little work and the (extra) time to produce what will be 8-16 mains is very minimal. I have 4 now in 12 days....
oh - Liz up top - her 4 shoots have just exploded out since that pic (2 days). There's something to this manifold that really changes the game. Thank you to all and especially my esteemed forum members that's given invaluable info' along the way.

Pics manana - the ladies are wayyyy outside in an enclosure.

Keep in mind - I have done and get the idea of achieving similar "objectives" using supercropping-LST-(in trying to get the most "heads" or main stems) FIM, etc... - but this growth seems to agree that the KEY is the manifold - which you don't achieve when doing the aforementioned methods. The increased vigour is really something that catches/caught me off guard.

ccWTF · Feb 11, 2015

Wow!
Great read, Learned so much.
Seems like a great indoor technique when there is a stationary light above the plant.
Keep the canopy level and low.
Outdoors probably not worth the time and effort, because the sides are getting sunlight.

I would love to see the grafting experiment. That has the potential to be a breakthrough discovery.

dwood · Feb 12, 2015

Here is my attempt at main lining.. I know the nodes are not perpendicular However these plants are from clone. Currently the plants are in one gal pots. I tied down the upper node so the other can catch up and hopefully close the node spacing. When I transplant more of the stem will be covered.
Any help is appreciated.n

Toaster79 · Feb 16, 2015

ByrneBurnham · Feb 17, 2015

Good evening fellow cultivators ! ! ! This is an eight'er....the "arms" with 2 shoots each are all 90* to the "shoulders" if you will....Im toying around with some different manifold structures (if I can use that term loosely) but still keeping the importance of the manifold front and center. This 8'er and others will now have the luxury of vegging from now till the 21st of June.

Im planning to use a rectangular pot for these ML'D plants so I figured the idea of directioning the heads in a quadrant form might be the easist..m

ByrneBurnham · Feb 17, 2015

Heyyyy - wait a sec' ! ! ! Have you ever heard or read to always always always document ? Well - in terms of ML'ing clones - Ive gone back and can definitely say a strain Ive made crosses of clone's grow symmetrically...

PLUS 1 for documentation ! ! !
Hopefully this'll be a trait that's passed on to the plants I have being ML'd as we speak. I haven't yet been able to get a long enough clone as Ive topped at the earliest but most pragmatic time...but, Im quite sure over the next 4 months Ill have donor clone material....

Toaster79 · Feb 17, 2015

4 tops, previous run:

ByrneBurnham · Feb 17, 2015

Damn right Toaster79 ! ! !

Toaster79 · Feb 17, 2015

That plant yielded double comparing to others.

Toaster79 · Feb 17, 2015

Right before flip:

Should have veged at least a week longer for those lateral branches to grow some more and fill inside of the canopy.

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